11,229 thoughts on “Future Analyses (No Longer Taking Requests)”

1. Does this means he has yet to project and train his vocals well for musical acting or was it his bad habits in general when he goes high in notes? Thank you for answering btw

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   1. It’s both. He has yet to train to sing with a more proper approach for musicals but his general approach is also something that’s blocking his path to singing with openness, resonance and support up there.

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2. Hi ahmin and pandayeu, any updates on the updated Sohyang analysis, ideally before the end of this year?

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   1. There are no plans to repost it as of now.

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3. what is your opinion on LOONA’s Main Vocal? uwu thanks!

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   1. That’s a very generic question, I’m not sure what you want to know.

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      1. Was she supporting? Because she sounded like she did. And how about the first verse? Personally, I don’t find it too low but I’m just curious what the notes are because it feels like she dropped her support there.

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      2. Chuu generally supports, that’s something I have felt a few times. 0:28 Eb3, before that G#3. She drops her support a lot in the third octave and has no developed chest voice. Her mix has some drops in support as well, flatness at 0:55 and she just isn’t lifting her soft palate enough. But she is actually connecting better in the chorus. She has support, to an extent. Thank you for being more specific by the way!

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4. Hi admin ! sorry for bothering you, but can you listen to and judge my singing here ? Do I have any support/ breath support ( I know the highest note C#4 sound kinda throaty with that vibration, but do the 2 lower note sound ok ? )

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   1. This is the link to my singing
      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L76vW1JJ9MLNCfM7aQySiaKFIl-BJZuN/view?usp=drivesdk

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5. [이달의소녀킼킼 #40]
   감춰도 감춰지지 않는 보컬 존재감😏#이달의소녀 #LOONA #LOONAKick #이브 #Yves pic.twitter.com/oSr8T1blTS

   — 이달의 소녀(LOOΠΔ) (@loonatheworld) November 17, 2018

   Does Yves support in this video? It feels like she’s just all throat. Correct me if I’m wrong. And that note at 0:12 and 0:18, are those the same?

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   1. It’s pretty shallow, yes. Yes those two notes are the same note on the same vowel and consonant. G#4.

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6. I just got into IZOne,what can you say about Jo Yuri’s performance here especially these parts: 0:36-0:43 and her high note at 2:10. Also what can you say about her technique. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrXYi_agb_8
   I’m so sorry but here’s another one. I want to make my comment just one but there’s no edit button. What can you say about her singing here at this part 0:29 and beyond. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo81gCCBZio

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   1. I haven’t been answering questions that are more or less kind of generic. Like a general opinion of a vocalist, I am going to be honest with you and tell you I have been purposely not answering those questions because they’re time consuming and I’d rather just analyze a vocalist instead. Also unfortunately even if I wanted, I can’t watch cause these videos are blocked for me. Why don’t you tell me what you think of her when you ask about her and make it a more specific question in the future?

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      1. But Jo Yuri of IZOne is one of their main vocalist. I think her voice is clear and not nasal and produces vibrato. Also when she hits the high notes the veins in her neck doesn’t pop out like other vocalist. That’s I was wondering about her technique.

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      2. Veins popping out aren’t the only way to tell anything about vocal strain. It’s actually very unreliable if you base it off of the way things look alone without listening to the quality of sound. But at least I see why you’d ask about her. Then please if you ask a question, show me these instances without nasality, with a vibrato, with high notes where you feel she’s not straining and where she’s singing with clarity, while also adding time stamps.

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      3. 
         So this is also about Yuri but I understand if you can’t answer.
         This is a weird ranking video but what interests me are the parts she sings between 5:22 to 6:07

         In the first clip, from 5:22-5:35 her voice sounds pretty clear to me, sounds relaxed.

         Between 5:39-5:42 she sings a higher not that I’m pretty sure is not fully supported.

         Then, @5:47-5:53 and 5:55-5:59 she does a crescendo (I think) into those high notes that I don’t think are strained but sound kinda pushed.

         Lasly, her high note @6:00-6:05

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      4. 5:22 The first note is not relaxed. It’s clear, it’s got chesty placement and her soft palate is lifted. But her throat is also constricted, there’s clear pushing of air pressure and throat tension. The D5 is strained. 5:25 I’d even say the larynx is high on the C5. I think she shows a LOT of potential, she just needs to manage air pressure and throat tension because she’s really close. 5:39 It’s not “not fully supported”, it’s completely strained. High larynx, pushed, squeezed F#5 followed by Eb5. 5:47 ~ 5:53 The C5 before the F5 was better than the other one from earlier. She sort of reminds me of a more constricted Seunghee. 5:55 I think you’re confusing crescendo (increasing of volume on a softer part gradually) vs a run (a sequence of notes sung on vowels without consonants, usually one single vowel). Eb5’s and F5’s were the notes she was hitting and these are, as you know, very hard notes for a soprano to hit well. They were quite squeezed and strained. 6:00 ~ 6:05 F#5, E5 and then C#5. There was less tension on the C#5. I think I have expressed this before recently, but I’m going to say it again. I am not worried about a vocalist’s ability to sing high notes if they can’t support. I don’t want to start from hearing them singing strained high notes, I want to hear them singing a normal song and showing me control, support, a consistent stream of airflow while also connecting their vocal cords well. I could hear some of that here, but all I was exposed to was the fact that she, like many other young sopranos, can sing high with a lot of vocal strain from D5 ~ F#5 and has questionable consistency and support around Bb4 ~ C#5. She does support, that much I could hear. But I don’t want to hear her strained high notes before I establish if she can support, so please don’t just send compilations of strained high notes. Just for future reference, please. This isn’t just directed at you but everybody. I feel this way quite a lot when people always just think “high notes this and that.”

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      5. Wow, thanks so much for the detailed explanations o-O

         Yes I completely misused the term crescendo, shame on me

         And yeah, gotcha. I stumbled across this video the other day and in her part where she sung those higher notes and of course I wondered if she supported up there; but yeah, I won’t send anymore high note compilations unless there’s established support since, as you said, it makes no sense, but again ty!

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      6. If this video isn’t blocked, I think 1:00 onwards are good clips of her singing within a reasonable range:

         This vid could also help (orange hair + bangs, starts singing around 0:30)

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7. I wonder why Luhan won’t be considered for analysis. Wasn’t he supposed to be the Baekhyun of EXO-M? Does that mean his technique is far below that of ChenBaekSoo’s?

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   1. “Disbanded groups or members who left their groups and are now not active anymore in the mainstream will NOT be analyzed. Even if they may be active, they’d need to be significantly vocally skilled to be considered for an analysis. If they’re active outside of Korea/K-pop, they’re not K-Contemporary artists anymore, therefore will NOT be analyzed.”

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8. Hiya! I know it seems a little early with the last time I asked you but this would probably the last for a while heh. I sang English songs that I think is pretty comfortable in my range. I don’t feel like I’m pushing too much but I think I can recognize some of the moments when I do.

   https://vocaroo.com/i/s07VP3O0lPbS

   A Whole New World, since Aladdin is about to come out lol. Are my A2s okay? I do wonder if I carry support throughout the verses and phrases or is my airflow still funky? I did try to be more relaxed. I like the sound of the C4 (i think) phrases in the first part of the chorus though. Oh and is the A3 pushed?

   https://vocaroo.com/i/s1zPbki3kZEk

   Open Arms. I was struggling a bit during the verses, I don’t even know why. It just feels like a little something will be off and I end up recording it again and again. Is the first C#4 (come) pushed? I feel like it might be.

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   1. Uh, maybe I asked on the wrong time or perhaps you forgot, it’s okay tho. But I want to ask your opinion on this short clip, if you can, because I feel like I can hear the problem but I’d need confirmation.

      https://vocaroo.com/i/s0BVZw7jJVVx

      To me, it sounds like I couldn’t really relax during the verses. It just didn’t sound like it was relaxed, I think it sounds a bit more heavy and tense. And I think I feel it when I sing. I try to execute the D4s the best but perhaps they’re not the problem. What do you think?

      If you don’t answer then it’s fine^^. Sorry if I’m bothering!

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      1. I left it to answer for later, actually!

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      2. Oof, okay then! Thanks!

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   2. I’m very sorry that it took me this long to get to this but here I am.

      I think there were a few pitchy moments in the last parts of a whole new world. There is a bit too much bouncing vocally, you keep overly emphasizing words and losing some of smoothness of the phrasing. Apart from that, it was okay. The general kind of wide shape of the throat is still there, but there was little tension. Especially when you sang softly, those notes were quite relaxed and nicely approached. I like the second part of the chorus where you didn’t try to overly project. That was quite nice there. The A2’s weren’t bad. The decide A2 was at the brink of running out of breath, but the other two were better kept within a range of breath management you could handle, so they came out better. They’re okay. The vowels are just too wide.

      Careful, don’t do runs if you’re not sure where they’re going to land on Open Arms. They end up going off key, make sure you get exactly to where they’re meant to be within key. Open arms, the Oh vowel was very nicely shaped. The Come and Am become too wide, the vowel isn’t focused and the throat is spread out too much. The Here on the C#4 is actually very nicely put together, there’s little room for tension because the sound is more focused. You have to be careful with your vowels, they can get too wide.

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      1. Ah, I’m still really not sure on how to approach vowels so they are ‘opened’ but not too wide. I guess I was aiming for a more opened sound during the ‘Come’ and ‘arms’. Also, I’m still having a bit of trouble managing my breath so I can actually sing the lines smoothly, that’s pretty much why I have trouble with overemphasizing on words.

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      2. Always make sure to emphasize the throat being shaped more ovally, try to feel the soft palate lift and keep a slight Uh like quality throughout your vowels, while always making sure the jaw is dropped and the lips aren’t spread out.

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9. Good day!! Just wanted to thank you guys for all the useful information! Can you do a short analysis on Stray kids’ vocal line based on this video? Thank you in advance and have a great day! Does woojin support in this video? And what are your general comments about his technique and points for improvement? Thank you so much!
   

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   1. Hello dear. I know you’ve asked about Stray Kids before a couple of time. Last time you also posted this video, but then you did include the names of every vocalist in the video. I’m sorry, but I’m not doing video questions anymore and I haven’t been doing so for a while, which is why I have not responded to your comments. However I’d like you to know why and acknowledge you, as I feel just ignoring your comment isn’t a nice thing to do. Questions that are general asking for a whole video’s analysis are time consuming and are hard for me to really grasp in terms of what you know, what you understand and what you want to know. I don’t like general comments. I did listen and I’m going to say Jeongin did not seem to support. As for Woojin and Seungmin, my previous comments more or less stand the same. Seungmin was tight on F4’s and F#4’s, he’s got some degree of shallow support with a relaxed approach below but there, it’s just shallow tightness. Someone did ask more specific questions about them recently and so I’ll copy-paste this one comment and video link. The video you provided is not live and so it’s not the most reliable source of singing critique. It’s something to go with, but not enough to talk about improvement. Also just because a vocalist has been singing for an extended period of time does not guarantee that they’ll have any improvement in vocal technique. Time =/= quality in practice. Same habits will stay the same unless the vocalist is consciously doing something to change them. I’m sorry but general questions won’t get good answers and I’m not a general answer kind of guy. So that’s why I’d rather ignore a comment and let someone else respond than give a generic answer.

      “I really don’t like to answer questions that directly compare two vocalists because I don’t see the purpose of it. 3:33 F#4 for the green stripe, who I know is their main vocalist and I’ve heard sing with less throatiness before. He does not show support on F#4, but he is particularly throaty in this video. Generally he doesn’t support this high nonetheless, nor higher which was a good portion of the chorus of this song. He is generally shallow and his throat is tight. The guy with glasses is less tight, for sure. Less throaty. He isn’t supporting particularly well, but he has a more established sense of support from what I’m hearing in this video. 2:18 His F#4’s don’t carry too much throatiness, 2:25 but he’s still tight with a high larynx on G#4. Neither of them show particularly fantastic support nor development of their voices, but in this specific video glasses is less throaty and tight than green stripe. Okay glasses is Changbin, a rapper, and Woojin is the main vocalist.”

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10. I was wondering if you think jin has been improving? In this truth untold live it looks like he has a decent sense of support and ease singing with less tension and more vibrato than before (despite some strain). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-AKm9o_7So (0:45-59)

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    1. I’m so sorry but I can’t say I hear a change. I don’t hear really any form of proper support. Not only has his posture remained the same, with him hunching back and pushing his neck forward, but his sound is also the same shallow, tight throat quality as before. Support isn’t something I’d say I can hear with any degree or sense of it, in this. Unfortunately. In order for Jin to improve he would have to be consciously trying to sing in a way that’s different than he’s accustomed to, and I’m not sure he is trying to sing differently.

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       1. Thank you for the reply!
          Looking back on my comment last night i can see i picked a pretty rough example among many of what i thought was some improvement in his voice. Do you think this is any better in terms of technique? https://youtu.be/8RfMYBfosDQ (singing parts at 0:30, 1:30 and 2:55). I can tell he still strains at some points but he seems fairly relaxed and isn’t hunching himself over compared to the other one. I know he hasn’t made any drastic change but at the least i thought there was some minimal improvement given his clearer tone quality and posture, but maybe i was mistaking ease/lack of physical tenseness in some registers for support.

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       2. I’m sorry but I still hear similar issues. You could be confusing the lack of physical tension with ease or support. I wouldn’t say he strains at some points, there’s an underlying tightness throughout. When Jin sings there’s a lack of openness, where he is unable to relax his throat and keep the sound free. It’s always somewhat closed, with varying degrees that get tighter and tighter, the higher he goes. From 1:30 to 1:43, when he was singing notes around E3 ~ G#3, he was more relaxed. Still shallow, but as soon as he sings a note in the fourth octave, his throat closes. 1:44 was C4, and he already is closed there. He, a tenor, is closing his throat as early as C4. Anything above that is tighter and more strained. Jin may have shown more relaxed singing in slightly softer lower parts, but Jin has always shown tension in the fourth octave and even Bb3/B3.

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11. Hello Ahimin, it’s been a long time aince I have asked your thought about NCT’s vocals. This is a video of NCT Taeil covering a song of Avery Wilson, I think at 0:13 up to 0:18 he hit some B4s (am I right or not? hehe) does he improve? compared to her past B4s? Does he support that note? and is his vibrato seems natural? or forced? Have a nice day Ahmin 😂 or any Admins that could answer my question 😂

    연습실ㅎㅎsing together~~🎶
    -정우가숨어있다#NCT127_SimonSays#SimonSays #NCT127 pic.twitter.com/jyazOTtdJX

    — NCT 127 (@NCTsmtown_127) November 24, 2018

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    1. I do think they’re B4’s. To say they’re improved or not I’d have to have kept a tab on Taeil in order to know. I haven’t analyzed him, I’m not sure if he’s been showing improvement. There’s strain, they’re tight in the beginning but they get better when he sings “we’re like a” although the strain isn’t gone. The vibrato isn’t forced, but it’s not relaxed enough. I think he does seem to be doing better than way back when they first debuted but as of this year, I’m not sure.

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       1. Thank you for the answer Ahmin, I was about to ask his note on Simon Says but I think its really strained and doesn’t need a consulatation, but I just want to clarify if it is D5’s-E5’s slide at 3:04-3:09, and is that mixed? From what I can hear it’s really throaty, tensed and closed. This is the studio version since they don’t have a live performance with them not dancing, I hope you considerate (the first one s htesmut studio version and the second one is their live performance with dancing ofc 2:58-3:02) https://youtu.be/arjy2v7zEI0 https://youtu.be/BH1OJr9PCLc

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       2. The second video is blocked for me so I can’t watch. But the first one is not and it’s a mixed voice slide indeed.

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12. Hey Ahmin and other admins :))
    I’m here just wanna provide some materials for Jihyo’s analysis. Hope they”d help^^
    2:49
    
    1:38
    
    2:24 to 2:43
    
    1:17 – 2:29 – 3:21 (I think she got a resonance here, maybe)
    
    Their new song, she’ve done many E5 (or Eb5 im not sure) recently, lived and they sounded better than her Cheer up’s ones, to me at least 🙂 1:00, 2:14
    
    and some other live performances:
    
    
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SfPjv6dh5o (2:37)
    I can feel her improvement but too sad that she’s like not presented in most of kpop vocal videos on youtube… so cant wait till her analysis come out 🙂

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    1. little fix:
       the first one: 2:49
       
       1:17 – 2:29 – 3:21 (I think she got a resonance here, maybe)
       

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13. Can you do a vocal analysis of Twice’s Nayeon and Jeongyeon (main vocalists)
    I know they’re already listed (in ‘indefinite’) but I’m curious and hoping that you guys will eventually and definitely get to them at some point in the future (where there will be more material)

    A vocal analysis of Akmu’s Chanhyuk would be nice too, though there isn’t much materail. I guess we just have to wait for him to get discharged from the military and wait some more to get more material.
    

    I’m also excited for an analysis of Pentagon’s Hui! He’s a great singer! Despite Pentagon being quite new, he has a lot of videos of him singing.
    
    Hope you watch the whole video.

    Thanks for reading this. 🙂

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    1. Nevermind, Nayeon and Jeongyeon.
       I’m most curious about Hui.

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       1. My brother borrowed my phone and wrote the first 2 paragraphs.

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    2. Well hello. Uhm, as you see, they’re already on the list. Indefinite does not mean that we are not sure they’ll be analyzed, it just means we don’t know when exactly. Also if you read the rules, it should explain why we have absolutely no intentions of analyzing Chanhyuk at any point in time.

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14. This is Park Woodam who was on the guys produce 101 and will be debuting with the HNB
    He sounds relaxed in the verses (like 0:17-0:23). Is he supporting?
    0:51-0:56 is a bit too high for him
    In the beginning it kind of alternates between notes that are more comfortable vs ones that are high. How do you practice so that is could be a smoother transitions?

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    1. Hello. You mean when he was transitioning from mixed voice to falsetto? It’s hard to explain but it’s just a matter of connecting the bridges of the voice, so that one is able to keep a close placement with closed vocal cords even when changing from one register to the other. Without letting air come through the vocal cords and allowing no restriction to happen while keeping the stretch smooth and the notes right on pitch, they just have to keep practicing transitions and exercises that close the gap between registers. He does support, yes. You’re right, those notes are too high for him to sing without tension at this point.

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15. Hello! I’d like to know how you think of TWICE’s Jihyo in these two clips. The first clip is of her 3+ years ago. And the second is from April 2018. Has she improved in any kind of way? https://youtu.be/56BBb43PwYA

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16. hi admins! I really wanna know how good is Yuju (from Gfriend) in terms of vocal techniques, and what category would you place her to. Thank you so much !

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    1. I’m sorry but as you see, she hasn’t been analyzed yet. What do you mean category? Do you know what our categories are? You’re aware that without an analysis, we can’t really answer your questions. You just have to wait.

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17. Por que vocês não postam mais nada? Nem me lembro quando foi a ultima analise… quero dizer, vocês não estão respeitando os leitores de vocês.. primeiro, vocês tiraram as classificações do nada, sabendo que muita gente gostava e lia o blog principalmente por aquilo, segundo que vocês nunca mais postaram nada, desrespeitando os leitores que leem o blog e aguardam por analises desde 2016, vocês têm noção disso? Há analises que estão pendentes desde 2016 e vocês só adiam, por favor tenham respeito e consideração pelos leitores do blog! Obrigado.

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    1. t(-_-t)

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    2. Oh Artie, agradeço seu interesse mas…Respeito aos leitores? Você chegou aqui se queixando, sem nem perguntar como estamos. Se está tudo bem conosco, se nossas vidas estão bem. Nada. E você ainda está reclamando das classificações? Muita gente entendeu o porque e como nós nos sentimos. Eles nos entendem porque nos respeitamos uns aos outros. Se você não entende e chega só fazendo demandas, eu acho que quem falta respeito aqui não somos nós. Postaremos análises quando nossas vidas nos permitirem. Não somos pagos para fazer essas análises, então agradeceria se entendesse que temos vidas além desse blog.

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       1. Aw, no need to thank me at all, those types of comments are just so unfair to you guys

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    3. Disrespecting the readers? They’re doing this FOR FREE. You don’t have any right to say they’re being disrespectful when they’re offering their knowledge and asking nothing in return. Ahmin and Pandayeu have stated many times that they’re busy with that special thing called “having a life” and they are not, in fact, your slaves. They both answer questions on the daily, and a decent chunk of them too. Yes, they haven’t posted an analysis in a while, but if you feel so entitled that you think you “deserve” another analysis, go make one your own.
       About them taking the rankings down… they made a whole a** essay on why they thought it was necessary. Fans were mad that their faves weren’t ranked as high as they thought they should be, and fanwars were breaking out here and there. At the end of the day, the analyses have the content needed to understand a vocalist’s technique, not to mention if you’re smart enough, you’ll realise how certain labels (of the new ones) give info which is very close to the previous rankings.

       Sorry for this rant, I just can’t deal with people who think deserve something when they’ve done t¡nothing in return. Learn what gratefulness is.

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       1. Thank you so much for this, I really feel touched and grateful. You’re a dear.

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18. Hi Ahmin!!!!! Please, can you check this performance by a pre-debut team and what do you think about their technique. They are going to debut early next year, so watch out. Thank You!!!!!
    
    From left to right: Haelin, Jiyoon, Monday, Soeun

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    1. I’m so sorry but we have not been answering general questions like this for a while now, especially about idols who haven’t even debuted. I’m so sorry.

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       1. I’m sorry about that. Anyway, I have question about Taeyeon. Recently, her mix voice suddenly becomes heavy or chesty. What do you think is the reason why her mix is like that again?

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       2. No it’s alright. What do you mean exactly with your question? In what context?

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       3. Hi~ do you have any videos you can share with us so we can personally take a listen?

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    2. My specific question in this are:

       1. If they all support their voices and if it’s only shallow or not?
       2. If 0:43 to 0:54 are supported?
       3. If the one who sings in the chorus supports her voice all along the chorus?
       4. If the run in the last part of the song are executed well?
       5. If 3:08 to 3:20 are supported notes?

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19. Hey, I just wanted to know if Renjun, Jungwoo or Ten are able to support.
    And would you say either Doyoung or Taeil or Jaehyun are a well rounded vocalists?

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    1. I was like who.. but then I realized NCT! Haha apart from Doyoung, Taeil or Jaehyun, I haven’t heard other members support. For them to be well rounded vocalists, they’d all have to have somewhat developed registers, all 3, and I don’t think any of them do.

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       1. Well, I was hoping that Renjun was able to support, but ok, hope he improves.
          Also, Monsta X sang Versace on the floor, and everyone was impressed by Jooheons vocals, but, would you say he has some sense of support?
          And, have you heard about SAAY, she’s a former member of evoL, don’t know if she can sing or not but #StreamCLAASSIConSpotify

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       2. I have no idea who SAAY is. Also I don’t remember anyone aside from the main vocalist of Monsta X supporting.

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    2. I’d like to add in a bit here saying that Jungwoo can kinda support but it’s very shallow, at least that’s what I’ve picked up on, however it’s not fully developed support.

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20. You should listen to her, her music is great, as I said, I really don’t know if she’s a nice vocalist or not, but she’s a great producer and songwriter, now that I asked, I’m really curious to know if she’s able to support https://youtu.be/BfDo5YvFljM well…… I just saw the video and I would say she’s more of a stylistic singer, very airy and nasal.

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    1. I’d say she definitely has at least support down.

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21. so, this guy basically destroys all your “support” and resonance” criteria, he says Kei is better than the other one and some of the examples are equal, so basically you should erase your page because it is spreading missinformation, mainly on the hispanic community, people that knows english take your comments about Jihyo or SEVENTEEN (crazy fans do) and they say that thy’re good vocalists and groups like RV or NCT are trash because they can’t produce resonance, which is something that you guys think is like the epitome of good singing. SOOOOO, yeah that, erase this sh*t pls.

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    1. Simply put, he’s a random person on the internet. First off, if you don’t know much about vocal technique, what solid proof from YOUR knowledge do you have to say that what he is saying is correct? Second of all, as someone who’s watched his videos, I can say that he definitely knows more than the average person, but his concept of resonance is very misguided. And lastly, in pop context, resonance refers to support + 0 tension + good placement + openness + optimal projection. It is considered the epitome of good singing because, quite frankly, it is. Also, people who say Wendy is not a good vocalist just because she lacks consistent resonance are ignorant. Resonance is optimal, yes, but Wendy supports over 2 octaves and has ease outside her supported range. Resonance is a huge plus and that’s undeniable, but there’s more to singing than just that. About NCT… as an NCTzen I have to admit that, aside from Taeil, NCT vocalists are kinda underwhelming. It’s not due to the fact that they can’t produce resonance, it’s due to the fact that they have some not-too-extensive supported ranges. They’re not weak at all, but they’re hardly comparable to some other great vocalists out there. Jihyo can’t produce resonance herself (iirc) so I really don’t know why people would be comparing her to other vocalists who can’t either (when talking about resonance).
       There are respectful ways of stating opinions, and if you want to agree with that youtuber, that’s fine, you’re allowed to have opinions (despite the fact that you’re quite clearly not too knowledgeable when it comes to vocal technique), but don’t say stuff like “erase this sh*t pls” just because you disagree with something, discrediting the work of people like Ahmin, Pandayeu and all other contributors to this site who have received PROFESSIONAL vocal training and lessons for years, and know what they’re talking about. Yes, that youtuber may have gotten professional training too, and I’m not denying that. He’s allowed to have his thoughts on resonance and I’m sure a polite and respectful debate would be welcome. But your comment was, not only biased, but FAR from being respectful.

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       1. He seems more professional than the persons who write on this page, so I believe in him. Im not biased, and my problem is not with this page itself, it is with the community they formed, brainwashed persons that believe their idols are better than mine because they “can support” more notes than other, that’s trash. Wendy is better than Taeyeon. I’m tired of hearing that my faves are trash because they can’t support, like lovelyz, they’re music is great but because this page says they can’t support, hispanic community treats them like shit. same case with nct, red velvet (because of Joy) and so many other. So yeah, erase this sh*tty *ss page right now.

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       2. I’m curious about your thoughts on NCT, what do you think about Jungwoo or RenJun? Also, would you say they’re the most vocally capable male group in the new generation?

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       3. If people treat Lovelyz like shit, that’s not because of “lack of knowledge” on this page. It’s because some people are douchebags. You’re free to believe Wendy is stronger than Taeyeon and in some ways I understand what you’re trying to say. But it’s not all about supported ranges, there’s so much more to being a vocalist and resonance is, whether you like it or not, a very crucial and game-changing aspect.

          It seems to me that you’re blaming this page just because other people are using it with evil intentions. If you go to Kei’s analysis, you will see how she actually DOES support. Facts are facts. Lovelyz have good music, and people shitting on them (or any other group) for not having god-tier vocals is a very mean and disrespectful thing.

          And you are biased. “…brainwashed persons that believe their idols are better than MINE” just because they are your idols doesn’t mean they are the most talented out there. I am a blink. I stan Blackpink and love Rosé with all my heart and soul, but she has a lot to work on as a vocalist, and me throwing a pity party won’t change that, and the same goes for you. I understand your feelings of anger at the fact that people are attacking your faves, and the admins are well aware that this happens from time to time. They have said multiple times that they don’t condone these actions, and people who attack idols are known as trolls for a reason. Their purpose is to hurt you, and you’re letting them do just that.

          FACTS ARE FACTS. Facts don’t care about your feelings. These analyses help so many people, such as myself, who want to learn about vocal technique and idols’ vocal abilities. I have never attacked a weak vocalist, yet you’re assuming everyone here is “brainwashed”?

          If you have someone to be mad at, it’s the people who insult your idols. NOT the people who have written factual analyses that make you mad as they’re not what you’d like them to be. Cheers

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22. Just ignore him and aswer me, lol 😦

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    1. Oh answer you? Sure, but I do wonder why your and “his” ip addresses are..exactly the same..? ._. I don’t know why you’re doing what you’re doing, but it isn’t cute. So please stop and leave.

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       1. You can choke.
          NCT>>>>

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       2. So you were a troll this whole time? What was the point? You come asking questions all the time, I’ve seen your username a lot. Then you come here with a different name pretending to be someone else asking to delete the blog and then RIGHT after post a question for the blog that should be deleted to answer? What’s the point of these theatrics? What do you want? To provoke us? For us to validate your opinion? I don’t understand. You’re welcome to believe whatever you want, NCT being great or not. We don’t quite care about massaging anyone’s ego, we aren’t here to defend nor attack your faves. We are here to teach people about vocal technique. If that’s not what you’re here for, please take your immaturity and leave. I suppose being caught on the act can be kind of embarrassing. But I hope you can learn from this and grow as a human being. We are humans too and we never disrespected anyone, especially you. So for you to come and use us then tells us to delete our blog because you don’t like what we say with some made up pity story about other people misusing our information is not only sad, it’s borderline psychotic. I wish you well, thank you for the time you did come to us for information. I hope you grow and come back when you’re ready to actually learn about singing, instead of fueling fanwars about whose fave is better than whose and wanting simple validations for your opinion.

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23. I’m just angry because the Hispanic community is using all this information with hating purposes. When I said that they say Jihyo or SVT are better I meant that people take ur comments that u leave in this section and use them to attack other fandoms, you haven’t even write their analyses and they are already attacking.
    I used to comment this page months ago or a year ago, when things weren’t like that. Now it’s different and I’m really pissed off.
    I want to apologise for what I said, but I had a discussion with an YG fan so I came and posted here, I’m so sorry to bother you all guys.

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    1. I understand you’re angry. I’m angry too, which is exactly why we changed the ranking system. To have something you love so dearly and worked so hard on be used on such petty fights is incredibly infuriating. But this shouldn’t mean you take out your anger on us. We aren’t to blame for their immaturity. So I accept your apology and ask that you help us by correcting these people and directing them to us for questions and we will take care of them as we hate having our information misused like that. Who’s better than who doesn’t matter. It’s not the point at all.

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24. hello!

    how is this G#4-Bb4 slide from NCT’s Renjun at 2:37? i would expect it to sound very strained but he sounds reasonably comfortable to my ears, maybe because of his vocal color. thank you!

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    1. It sounded narrow? I’m not sure what word to use, but there’s little space in his throat. Instead of an opened round shape, his throat is generally narrower than it should be and the sound is generally quite shallow. It’s definitely strained. But his voice is very light and youthful, so that hides away some of the strain.

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25. woah, totally didn’t see there was a big trolling incident involving nct just a few comments ago. sorry my comment had terrible timing, didn’t mean to add to the conversation above or anything.

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    1. You’re just my another account. LMAO JK.
       I’d also like to know what do they think about RenJun.

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       1. Saddly I believe it’s lipsync.

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26. Hello! I wanted to leave two new videos here for Seungkwan’s vocal analysis.
    
    
    In particular I feel the second one might be helpful since he sang the same song five years ago:
    
    Happy holidays!

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27. Hello ^^
    What do you think about Day6’s vocalists? Can you rank them based on their vocal technique? After analysing Sungjin’s vocal will you plan to analyse another member’s?
    If you notice my comment thank you so much, I’ll leave a live video of Day6 in Immortal Song, left to right are Wonpil, Young K, Sungjin, Jae.
    
    Another live video: https://youtu.be/ObboG8Pvewo
    Thank you so much!!

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    1. No, I’m afraid that I cannot rank them because that’s not something we like to do. We won’t rank vocalists, especially not within their own group for no reason. We have no plans to analyze any other vocalists in Day6 as of now.

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       1. Thank you for replying my comment. I’m so sorry that I asked an unsuitable question about ranking the vocalists :(((
          Can I ask if they are singing in healthy way?

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       2. To an extent, yes. Most of their songs I heard aren’t too high but there’s a good amount of them that sits too high for their current supported ranges.

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28. Hey Ahmin
    So (g)i-dle’s main vocalist Miyeon has a predebut video of her singing and there’s a certain part of the song that people were praising her for switching vocal registers from chest voice to head voice then back to chest voice and it was with full support form 0:49 to 0:55 and I just wanted to get your full input and know if it’s true. I also want to ask if there was any resonance when she was singing or if she had good tonality and if there is anything else impressive that she did there that you’d like to point out in this video when she was singing in that timestamp
    
    Also at 0:58-1:04, she ties to attempt a high note I guess, I’m wondering if if she supported it but I get the feeling that there was tension in her voice or her throat but I’m no vocal expert so that’s why I’m asking you I guess =]
    thank you~

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    1. My thoughts are that she’s pretty constricted throughout. The shape of her throat is kind of squeezed so even in lower notes, there’s restriction and tension. Full support? I wouldn’t say so. The transition specifically at 0:54 was nice but otherwise it wasn’t anything incredibly difficult but it was done well. The high note in head voice had a very wobbly and fast vibrato. That’s what I’m hearing overall.

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29. Happy new year admins! (Not sure where your staying is already 2019 :o)

    I have been wondering about this for quite a long time, so I am leaving a question here. I saw that some people asked when will Sohyang’s analysis be updated again, and I just want to know about it as well.

    I don’t know why I want to see this website’s writing again (probably due to these youtube videos endlessly comparing her with other vocals or the fact that I cannot find other analyses explaining about her vocal in a meticulous way).

    Sorry for my English if I sound a bit vague to understand. Thank you!

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    1. I’m sorry but honestly I can’t say it will be updated. The one in charge of it is Pandayeu and I don’t think there are any plans to repost it at this point. And no need to apologize, your English is on point.

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30. when will you guys upload another analysis? it will near for a year now since your last analysis.

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    1. When we have time, hopefully soon.

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       1. i’ll wait for that. i’m honestly waiting during the year end hopefully you guys are going to shower us atleast 10 analysis at once. seems like i was wrong so i thought about it maybe it’ll happen this year but meh. hope you guys already finished the supposed-to-be 2018 analysis so you can upload them when you have free time. fighting to your team!💜

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       2. I’m going to be honest, I honestly planned to but I didn’t have time. ㅠㅜ

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31. 
    Hi Ah in, do you think those very lighty mixed A#4s around 1:20 and 2:19 are supported?

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    1. Oh Ahmin, if you do answer this question, just know that this man apparently suffered an accident when he was younger that messed up his tongue, which lead to some speech issues.

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32. Hi Ahmin, just a curious question regarding support and resonance. Is it common, even for the very skilled vocalists, to vacillate between support with resonance and support without resonance when executing mid-range or high-range belts? If so, what could be the reason for the intermittent loss of resonance in spite of the consistent support? Thanks!

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    1. Resonance isn’t directly related to support but instead placement and throat shaping. So if a vocalist isn’t consistently placing their sound while keeping their throats open, resonance won’t be achieved.

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33. Hello! 🙂 Happy new year! I was wondering, if anyone has ever asked about Jung Seunghwan? I can’t seem to find him on the list and was simply curious if people know about him 🙂

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    1. Yes actually quite a few times. He’s got support and resonance as high as G#4, but not very low. That’s as much as I know.

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       1. That’s nice, I’m glad people notice him, since he’s a soloist! 🙂 I remember him being listed as one of the resonating vocalists, but there aren’t many videos about his vocals, so I can only enjoy his music for now 🙂 He’s a young artist and he’s also in his debut years, so I hope he improves 🙂

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34. 
    0:56~1:08
    are there any problem of yuju voice? her sound so tired

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    1. She’s quite a bit tight and nasal, though she is supporting throughout. She just gets really tight on the D5, and overall her diction is just making her sound a lot less open than she could.

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       1. So, that means she still strains on D5, right?

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       2. Yes.

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    2. I want to ask about her C#5s. I think they are likely to be strained? (because she carried tension from Eb5 and D5 down to C#5?)
       
       

       Also, in the first video, is Eunha’s Bb4 at 3:17 strained?

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