Future Analyses (No Longer Taking Requests)

Vocalists Whom Will NOT Be Analyzed

Due to many fans not reading our rules carefully, we will provide a list of popularly requested vocalists that will not be analyzed because analyzing them would break our rules. Please read our rules before making a request.

2NE1’s CL

4Minute’s Hyuna

Big Bang’s Seungri

BtoB’s Hyunsik

BTS’ Jin & Jimin

EXO’s Chanyeol, Xiumin, Suho & Lay

f(x)’s Amber

Girl’s Generation’s Sooyoung & Yuri

Infinite’s L

Luhan

Miss A’s Suzy

Secret’s Hyosung

Sera (Former Nine Muses)

SHINee’s Key

Super Junior’s Heechul, Lee Teuk, Kangin, Siwon

T-Ara’s Jiyeon

Rappers

Rules

For analyses of members of idol groups, we only analyze vocalists. We do not analyze rappers, even if they may sing at times if their main instrument is rapping, we will not analyze them as it is not fair to them. If a rapper happens to have significant vocal skill (Average to Above Average vocalist or higher) then they shall be considered for an analysis.

We only analyze half of the vocalists in a group, and only the strongest half. If a group has 8 members but 4 are rappers, then we’ll only analyze half of the vocalists in that group. So in this case only 2/4 vocalists will be analyzed. If the vocalists in a group happen to be more vocally skilled and balanced, then more vocalists will be analyzed within a group, such as the case with SHINee, Brown Eyed Girls and Mamamoo. (Average to Above Average at least.)

We only analyze vocalists with sufficient material for an analysis. Therefore groups that debuted more recently, such as in 2015 and 2016, will not be analyzed due to the lack of material. We prioritize vocalists who have longer careers with more material for an analysis.

*******WE ARE NO LONGER TAKING REQUESTS ******* because the list of vocalist to be analyzed has reached a fairly lengthy size, we will be no longer accepting requests until the list decreases in size.

Disbanded groups or members who left their groups and are now not active anymore in the mainstream will NOT be analyzed. Even if they may be active, they’d need to be significantly vocally skilled to be considered for an analysis. If they’re active outside of Korea/K-pop, they’re not K-Contemporary artists anymore, therefore will NOT be analyzed.

Updating Analyses

2017

Pandayeu

Kim SoHyang

New Analyses

2017

Pandayeu

Gfriend’s Yuju

Juniel

Kim Dahyun

Red Velvet’s Seulgi

FrostPrincess21

4Men’s Shin Yongjae

Guckkasten’s Ha Hyunwoo

Lee Young Hyun

Ahmin3

Baek Ah Yeon

Baek Ji Young

Bernard Park

Cross Gene’s Seyoung

Gavy NJ’s Gunji

Gummy

Huh Gak

Hwang Chiyeol

In Sooni

Jung In

Jung Joon Young

JYP

Kim Bumsoo

Kim Dongryul

Kim Tae Woo

Kim Jong Gook

Kim Yeon Woo

Lee Eunmi

Lee Sora

Lee Sunhee

Lim Jae Bum

Lim Jung Hee (J.Lim)

Lyn

MC The Max’s Lee Soo

Navi

Norazo’s Lee Hyuk

The One

Park Kiyoung

Roy Kim

Se7en

Seo In Young

Seo In Gook

SG WANNABE’s Kim Jiho

Shinhwa’s Shin Hyesung

So Chan Whee

Seo Moon Tak

Sung Shi Kyung

TOPP DOGG’s Sangdo

Ulala Session’s Myunghoon

Urban Zakapa’s Jo Hyuna and Kwon Soonil

Vibe’s Yoon Minsoo

Wheesung

Yangpa

2018 ~ Indefinitely

Ahmin3

2Bic

A.Kor’s Jiyoung

April’s Chaewon & Jinsol

Astro’s MJ &/or Sanha

Awesome Baby’s Yechan

Berry Good’s Taeha

Blackpink’s Rosé

BMK

Buzz’s Kyunghoon

CLC’s Seunghee & Sorn or Seungyeon

Cosmic Girls’ Yeonjung & Dawon

Crayon Pop’s Choa

Day6’s Sungjin

Dean

Eric Nam

Fiestar’s Linzy

G.Soul

Gugudan’s Sejeong & others

Ha Dong Kyun

Han Dong Geun

Huh Gak

iKON’s Junhoe & Jinhwan or Yunhyeong

Jooyoung

Junggigo

Kim Dongryul

Kim Feel

Kim Gunmo

Kim Juna

Kim Kyungho

KNK’s Inseong & Youjin

LEDAPPLE’s Hanbyul

Lee Juk

Lee Jung

Lee Michelle

Lee Seung Chul

Lee Seunggi

Legend’s Listen

Lim Chang Jung

Lim Kim

Lovelyz’s Jin or Sujeong

Madtown’s Lee Geon &/Or H.O.

Matilda’s Haena

Melody Day’s YeIn and Chahee

Monsta X’s Kihyun

Mr.Mr.’s Tey

NCT’s Stronger Vocalists

Nell’s Kim Jongwan

Nine Muses’ Keumjo

Oh Hyuk’s Hyuko

Oh My Girls’ Hyojung & Seunghee

Parc Jaejung

Park Boram

Phantom’s Sanchez

Pentagon’s Jinho & Hui

Playback’s Woolim

Jooyi

Royal Pirates’ Moonchul

Rumble Fish’s Choi Jini

Se7en

Seventeen’s DK, Seungkwan

SF9’s Inseong

So Chan Whee

Sonamoo’s Minjae & High.D

Stellar’s Hyoeun

Sung Shi Kyung

Sunny Days’ Sunkyung

Sunnyhill’s Jubi

Tahiti’s Jerry

Tim

TWICE’s Jihyo & Nayeon or Jungyeon

UP10TION’s Hwanhee & Sunyul

Urban Zakapa’s Jo Hyuna and Kwon Soonil

Vromance’s stronger vocalists

Yoo Seungwoo

Yoon Do Hyun

Zhang LiYin

Zion.T

If any of you would like your idol to be analyzed, drop your request in the comment box. If you attach videos/recordings of their (preferably) latest live performances, it will be helpful. But then again, it will not guarantee that your idol will be analyzed since it will depend on our contributors. We can’t even guarantee when we will release the analysis of the above mentioned future projects. One other reason is that analyzing vocal when there isn’t enough material to judge them will be challenging and more or less inaccurate. This will explain why judging rookie idols is an issue.

Regards,

Admin

7,468 thoughts on “Future Analyses (No Longer Taking Requests)

  1. Hello! I saw that you’re going to analyze Kihyun and i’m really exited.
    I was wondering if you are going to analyze another vocal from monsta x (since they have 5) in the future. It’s okay if you won’t i’m just curious.
    Sorry for my bad english and thank you💜

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    1. They’re more of a rap oriented group. We have no plans of analyzing any other vocalists other than Kihyun for now. I apologize and oh your English is fine!

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  2. Some say that Gfriend’s SinB has the same vocal range as Twice’s Jihyo; and that Gfriend’s Eunha sings better than Twice’s vocal line, Jihyo, Nayeon and Jungyeon. Are these true? ☺

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    1. Same vocal range? What does that mean? Vocal range is irrelevant to vocal skill. Having the same vocal range is also very hard to say as they would need to know every single note that SinB has hit and unless her range is E3 ~ F6 like Jihyo’s, they have not shown the same vocal range. Also no, Eunha and SinB are more than likely weak vocalists while Jihyo and Jungyeon are more likely to be average vocalists and Nayeon is likely weak to average. So no, those people are just saying that to be spiteful cause unless they can explain exactly why, then those statements are baseless and untrue. Eunha and SinB have absolutely no sense of proper breath support and sing with high larynxes and shallow breathing. Jihyo and Jungyeon can support with proper breath technique which already makes them far more skilled vocalists. I don’t understand these baseless things people say without even explaining properly why.

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  3. Hi! Thank you so much for all the work you do on this blog educating kpop fans (-:
    I have a few questions about some rookie idols, if that’s okay. Firstly what’s your opinion on NCT’s vocal line? (This is the most recent video I could find where they sing more than like choruses and a high note) https://youtu.be/NgGtgT0evSw I know that most of the sub vocalists like Yuta and Winwin are probably weak but Taeil sounds quite nice and Jaehyun and Doyoung do too, no?
    Secondly, what is your opinion on BLACKPINK’s Rosé? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_NVwS4mcVYg She sounds really breathless and almost….blocked…at the start here, is she just tired do you think? Also, could Jisoo be a mezzo?
    ALSO have you heard Lee Michelle? What are your thoughts on her vocal skill? Thank you just for reading and please don’t feel like you absolutely have to answer!!!

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    1. We don’t really need the high notes honestly. I’d rather hear them singing in a comfortable range. Lee Michelle? I don’t have much of an opinion, her mix isn’t very good but her head voice is actually kind of nice, at least good in placement. I have answers I can copy-paste for your other questions:

      “Someone asked me about this one video and I answered specific questions about Jihyo and Rosé. I did a whole breakdown comparing them both actually to an extent and again the difference is too clear. Rosé is pure nasal throaty style, Jihyo is a lot cleaner and healthier. I disagree that Rosé sounds better in anyway. If she is more appealing to some, that’s taste, not a factual statement. So here’s what I said in case you’re curious:

      The original 7:00 video was deleted so the time stamps wont match.

      “1:18 she is speaking in the beginning, then she starts singing like two notes repeatedly 1:36 C#4 and D#4, 1:44 F#4 to F4. 2:16 F#4 again 2:21 G#4’s. I wouldn’t necessarily say that when she gets to the G#4 that she starts straining, but the range for this song is VERY narrow and not challenging for a Soprano at all. So for her to have any sort of tension on a note as low as G#4, it’s quite underwhelming for a soprano. So when you ask…is her voice shaky and breathy like that, are you asking basically if the way she sounds isn’t related to her singing technique but instead it’s just the natural tone of her voice? If that’s what you mean, then yeah it’s a technique. Nobody’s voice is naturally shaky nor breathy. Shakiness comes from the lack of control of the vocal cords, breathiness comes from the lack of contact of the vocal cords. If the vocal cords don’t come together enough, then air passes through them and then you become airy in quality. If the vocal cords aren’t fully coming together, they can’t stretch properly against proper airflow from one’s breath support. So because of that, the lack of resistance from the vocal cords against the flow of air will then make the vocalist become shaky.

      Most of Blackpink’s songs tend to be kind of speech like, so they make her sound like she’s not really singing yet. 2:53 You asked about Jihyo, so by contrast Jihyo has better support and she approaches her singing with better legato. Legato meaning the connection of the notes when she sings, she chops up her singing a lot less than Jihyo. 3:04 The thing with Jihyo is her mixed voice tends to be very chesty, so she sounds a bit pushed the higher she goes. So by contrast, Rose sounds closed and Jihyo can sound yelly. So That note at 3:04 is an A4 and the placement of the sound is good in her cavities, but she is pushing a bit too much air. Her connection is not bad though. 3:11 a bit tense on the quick phrased C5. But she supports with a lot more consistency of air. 3:24 Rose goes flat in this part, she tends to sing with less stretch of her vocal cords.

      She tries less, both she and the vocalist of 10CM are very similar. They sing with a very whiny quality in singing and tend to compress their vocal cords and throats to achieve a grittier sound. 3:44 Bb4 for Jihyo here, a higher note than anything Rose has sung so far and she sounds fairly relaxed with much better connection. 3:53 A4’s for Rose, here she is trying a bit harder to sing without relying solely on the style she chooses to sing with. This does cause her a bit of strain cause she is pushing a bit too much and tightening her throat a bit. Again this isn’t a challenging range at all for a soprano, this should be relatively fine.

      6:45 she sings with half vocal cracks when she sings but even on Bb4’s she isn’t exactly straining, 7:03 I hear throatiness and strain on her C5’s for sure but below that she is still kind of half cracking her voice for style. 7:16 C5 7:19 Bb4’s, sustained, I hear actual strain here as well. She isn’t relying on proper breath support to her voice, she is using the pressure from her swallowing muscles to try and become louder, which is hurtful to the vocal cords. 7:34 same thing here.

      So the thing with Rose is that she isn’t a technical vocalist at all. She opts for no technique and simply uses style to sing. This is fine but limiting. This is what many perceive to be uniqueness, but in a way it isn’t that unique because as you suggested, this is a popular style for indie singers. So all she’s doing is singing like an indie singer which isn’t unique to her voice, but instead unique to that style. The uniqueness comes from combining that style with a genre within K-pop that’s not exactly indie. The problem for her is that choosing to sing in this style, she never really exercises her vocal cords to develop them properly. To stretch them and connect them like they need to be and getting in the bad habit of stylistic tension causes her to actually be tense and strain her voice very early on in range. Style is fine as long as it’s on purpose, but so far I’ve yet to hear her singing outside of that narrow range she sings in or outside of that kind of style. Actually it would be more unique if she used her real voice to sing instead of leaning towards an indie technique but that would just show fans her real voice but it may not be how she chooses to sound and what she wants to sound like. So the choice is hers, most of the time she sings in a narrow range so there’s little reason for her to hurt her instrument. However if she were to sing songs that are wider in range, more dynamically challenging and need her to have better technique, I worry that she wouldn’t perform as well in them. I hope I was able to address your questions and let me know if you still have any other ones. ^ ^”

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      “Okay so finally I can hear them singing for real. So Rosé sounds really airy, a bit too nasal, a bit shaky, she is flat throughout. I’m not hearing a strong sense of connection in her airflow and her vocal cords. She does have a nice voice, but has a very clear style that is easy to like. Jennie then has a thicker push in her vocal cords, she uses more tone but also lacks in support, I hear just almost pure nasality as you said and throatiness. 0:50 Jisoo starts singing is all mostly pretty much in her throat, it’s flat throughout with pitch and tone quality. 1:11 she’s very closed and flat here, those are Bb4’s which indicate a very clear quality of a weak female vocalist. The amount of throatiness, the amount of shallowness and lack of support, it follows the pattern of our weak rating perfectly. 1:13 Rosé’s singing is very stylistic, it’s not as much lack of technique as it is going for a specific style that limits her singing a lot. Same thing for Jennie, even though she’s a bit more forceful. 2:18 She is really not making much effort to keep her vocal cords together, she’s almost creaking her way through the song, she is pushing her vocal cords together and keeping them tight and keeping her throat closed. 2:39 The Bb4’s are better than Jisoo’s, but they’re not supported. 2:45 Lisa is also shallow and airy, I don’t hear support there. Jennie makes more of an effort to keep her cords connected, but it’s all so shallow. 3:34 She kind of uses the nasal placement as a default stylistic choice, more so than a lack of technique. I wonder how she’d sound trying to sing a different genre where she wouldn’t be so free to be limited in style and range. I kept listening to the other song but I don’t hear anything particularly different.”

      That’s things I’ve said about them…in case I didn’t answer it, I’m not sure Jisoo is a mezzo but I wouldn’t say so yet. As for NCT….

      “Doyoung sounds pretty alright, he has support and he only sounds slightly thinned out on those phrased F#4’s. That’s as high as they’re going in the verses. Jaehyun is not doing so bad for a baritone up there but this is pretty much outside where he sounds comfortable. Taeil has the most opened placement out of the 3. Jaehyun doesn’t seem to be able to stay supported on E4 yet even and he has issues with carrying up too much chest and being slightly too throaty in that higher range. 2:10 Those headier F#4’s are not bad, not that tense, he has better support up there. 2:20 D4’s are fine for him, he’s got those. 2:25 A4’s are definitely not there for Doyoung yet, he’s got issues with the support. 2:37 high larynx A4 for Taeil. LOL”

      This is for their debut song. In short, their three main vocalists seem reasonably average at least for now.

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      1. Thank you so much for the quick answer!! Sorry to keep asking questions, but I’m just wondering how Jaehyun/Doyoung/Taeil compare to debut era BaekChenSoo and Onew/Jjong? Because SM are usually quite good at training their vocalists but as far as I can remember ChenSoo and maybe Baek were a bit better when they debuted, esp. Chen, although I’m not sure. Same goes for Onew and Jjong. So I’m kind of worried that they’re going downhill now because Taeil doesn’t seem amazing to me and he’s the best out of the three mains…….or maybe I’m being delusional haha

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      2. I honestly don’t know because I did not analyze BaekChenSoo, if I had I would have listened to them during debut and then until now and the way I analyzed vocalists when I started changed, so since I was fairly familiar with Jonghyun and Onew at that time, I didn’t do as much research as I do now. So because of that, I never really listened to them during their debut and tried to rate their skill at that point, so I can’t really compare NCT with them for now. I think we can all stay calm, as Luna and Taeyeon have shown great improvement so instead of thinking it’s SM, think that it’s the individual vocalist’s own will to improve.

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  4. Hi, i have a few questions to ask. First, can i damage my voice by singing with not fully compressed vocal cords ? I usually try to sing with small compression, it is not a very breathy sound but there is still a presence of breath leaking through my cords. I do this because it helps me keep volume low in places where i can not sing out loud and also i feel confortable singing like this. Second, when i try to put on more compression so that my cords are coming fully together, usually my jaw muscles get in the way and i experience a little pain in this region http://imgur.com/a/o5wqC , how do i get rid of it ? Thanks !

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    1. By singing with airiness you mean? That can dry up your vocal cords and if you don’t properly hydrate, they can become irritated, yes. Only if done excessively with no hydration though. Singing softly shouldn’t mean being airy. That’s a common misconception people have, but singing with softness should not make you become breathy, that means you’re not engaging your vocal cords enough. Oh that sounds like you have tongue tension, especially if it’s that area. If that’s the case, stick your tongue out, hold it with your fingers so that it relaxes. Keep it as out as possible and then sing scales, monitoring your tongue and not letting it slide back in. If it tries, it’s because it’s tensing up. Then train it to stay out, hold it out, don’t let it move your larynx.

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      1. Thanks for the info, fortunately that is the only tension i am still sometimes experiencing. And it is strange because when it happens it only happens on the left side of my jaw/tounge, never the right side. I will try your tips, thanks again.

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  5. Could you analyse these three 30 second videos just really shortly if you have time? 🙂
    Is he alright at singing? I like his voice a lot but it confuses me a lot, because to me although I like it, it doesn’t really sound good (I can’t… explain that properly)

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    1. He has a nice voice, Billionaire has really quality in audio. I hear tension in the A4’s in the chorus, but it’s hard to hear clearly what he is doing. I just hear a lot of pushing, which is why he keeps giving out and switching to falsetto…he is pulling his chest voice without mixing properly so his voice gives out. It is a high melody.

      0:02 He already started with a lowered larynx and pushing his lower range and then as he kept singing, he is trying to copy classical singing but I hear a lot of chesty pushing and tongue tension. 0:18 onwards he lets go of trying to sound like a fake classical vocalist and instead sings more contemporary-like so he isn’t trying to push his larynx down anymore. He sounds more relaxed. The range was C3 ~ Eb4, I’m not sure how to feel about his C3’s since he did try to push his larynx down but Eb4 sounds alright.

      0:10 tight throat and nasal placement in the Chinese song, he isn’t very relaxed around F4. He has a very nice voice, but he just places it in his throat and nose when he sings higher, although this was particularly more nasal than in the other 2 songs so I think the genre affects it. None of this is enough for me to have a set opinion on his singing but I do hear a lot of issues and inconsistencies with his technique.

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  6. friends happy new year even if it late I hope this year will the best year in your lifes all ♡♡♡♡
    friends you’re always talking about 9nine dear of cloud as been the only contralto female in kpop but why she’s not in the future analysis why?????
    Also sejeong it’s the main vocalist in I.o.i but in gugudan she’s lead the main vocalist of gugudan is HAEBIN

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  7. crayon pop’s choa on another musical

    also, how good are they?

    are they good enough as ot9-snsd’s vocal line so you guys could do an analysis for all five of them? lol

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    1. ChoA’s support is actually kind of shallow throughout that performance. She is fairly nasal and uses her throat a lot, she sounds like the girl who sang Rebecca in the Musical with Ock Joohyun. She is also fairly pitchy, she is going flat a lot in the low notes, 13:41 flat 13:49 flat 13:52 flat she was flat quite a few times throughout this performance. My impression of her changed quite a bit but I appreciate the video.

      As for the other girls, it’s not one song being repeated over and over again that’s going to show me that 5 of their vocalists can handle singing on their own because being able to harmonize doesn’t mean they can all support individually. Also Taeyeon is a proficient vocalist, no vocalist in Gugudan seems more than average to above average. 0:05 first girl isn’t support almost at all, she’s just air and a high larynx. Sejeong has very decent technique, supporting, nice placement, can handle her B4’s but I don’t think we will analyze all 5 of them at all. I would need to hear their individual singing, not them singing harmonies together. That’s like Vromance, I don’t know what to think of them individually cause all they do is harmonize and I don’t know what their individual vocalists sound like singing alone. Their harmonies are nice, don’t get me wrong, but harmonizing well is not the same thing as having good vocal technique. Being a good choir member doesn’t make you a good solo vocalist and vice-versa. 4:43 that girl supports, 4:52 she is too shallow, 5:06 shallow. I’m not sure I’d say any of those girls are more than weak, except for 4:43 and Sejeong so again I don’t think so.

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      1. yeah i thought so too. idk but choa doesn’t sound as good as before these days for some reason. 😦

        lol i know. i’m not exactly gugudan’s fan either. idek their names other than sejeong/mina/nayoung. it’s just i feel like gugudan’s one of the few newer gg that have an actual vocal line instead of one super good vocalist but the rest are meh. so it’s good to see yknow.

        so i went to their youtube channel and each one of them have an individual cover song actually. not live tho.
        i feel like these girls are the better ones

        nayoung was on produce 101 too, she ranked 14th at final tho so she didn’t get to debut with ioi.

        (she’s in blue)

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    1. Do you mind if I answer this question in English?

      Rosé started off singing with a nasal placement, barely opening her mouth which caused her sound to project from her nose. 0:03 that note was flat. She is singing around F#4 and G4. She sounds fine but she is not opening up her mouth enough, so she sounds very nasal. 0:17 she likes to let her vocal cords come apart and crack a bit for air to come through stylistically. Jisoo’s harmonies are nice. 0:33 and 0:38 she is singing A4’s, where I hear a bit of the grabbing of her throat muscles around her larynx. She is pushing very slightly. 0:43 Jisoo is flat, tone wise and pitch wise. She is barely supporting at all, she is mostly flat and her throat isn’t very opened so her sound isn’t projecting very clearly. Rosé is a lot brighter in placement due to her nasality, but Jisoo’s tone production is very shallow. Her English diction makes her sound nasal too. This song isn’t very challenging at all but it was nice, the harmonies were the best part. Aside from that, it was a fairly comfortable range and it doesn’t really show anything special for Rosé, especially not around A4 since that note is a bit low for her to show any sort of tension.

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  8. hi! i honestly love your analyses i always learn a lot with them so thank you a lot 🙂
    im sorry if im bothering but i was wondering if you could make a small analysis of imfact’s vocal line (taeho, jeup and sang) in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FweKqvUiDJM (not the first song but the second one that starts @ 3:23) i honestly like their voices (i know they still have a long way to go) but i do feel like something is missing and maybe because theyre not using their techniques well? i dont know how to explain since i dont know much about singing but yeah 😦 please and thank you ❤

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    1. Hi there! I am so glad you do! ^ ^
      Honestly this is the first time I hear of this group…I think. Let me take a listen, I’ll skip to the song you suggested. ^ ^ I’m going to look them up. Jeup and Taeho are main vocalists, Sang is a lead vocalist. So Sang is the one with the military jacket, Jeup has brown hair and the blond one is Taeho? I used color coded lyrics from the first song to find out who’s who as they’re sitting down…and…I heard a lot of tension on all of them around F#4 and G4, especially Sang. Sang sings with a very tight throat, he pushes a lot and keeps his vocal tract space very narrow so his sound is kind of small, thin and thus nasal. Let me check out the Mirrorz song though.

      3:23 Nice voice, a bit too airy, a bit too shallow, a bit too nasal in placement. Taeho has a nice light tenor voice, but he is using such an airy thin quality that he is barely using proper breath technique for this kind of singing. 4:00 same thing is going on for Jeup, this isn’t heavily focused on the vocals since the melody is actually very quick, very rhythmic, it doesn’t give them time to breathe. 4:21 tight throat on the falsetto for Sang. 4:23 nasal placement. 4:30 high larynx and tight, 4:34 Jeup sounds a lot like Leo in this part, pushing with a bright sound but a high larynx, very shouty quality. 4:39 F4’s for Sang are already very tight, he is pretty tight. 4:49 even if you watch his neck, you can see he is pushing his neck forward, squeezing his throat muscles..none of that is advisable. They seem very rap focused with two rappers who get a lot of lines. 5:18 tight throat, high larynx. 5:24 pushing way too much air as he ends phrases, you can tell he is just pushing the air from his diaphragm into his vocal cords very forcefully. 6:05 very closed throat, Sang usually sings way outside his comfort range. He is mixing C5’s though which is pretty high but even F4 is already strained. Honestly none of them seem to have been taught the basics of proper vocal stretch, placement, diction or breath support. They all sing similarly with tension, high larynxes, nasality and airiness or excessive air pressure, Sang being the one with the most tension. It’s frustrating for me to hear such young boys with promising talent being wasted away like this due to improper vocal training.

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  9. Hello Ahmin! I would like to ask what do you think of Blackpink’s Rosé’s style. She featured in a GD track back then (here’s her cut —-> https://youtu.be/ME5rQ4u327Y) and I believe she had quite a very different singing style back then compared to now. Do you think her voice somewhat ‘changed’ through time? And do you think she can pull off a heavy ballad with the way she sings now?

    Thanks in advance! And please excuse my english~~

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    1. Well the thing is she did sound somewhat better, she had a more forward placement, she was more opened, she wasn’t nearly as nasal. She also was still straining in the fifth octave as she does now, but it was a lot less closed and crackly. Again the crackly thing is kind of a stylistic thing she does now. I believe what changed was her style, which by consequence changed her singing approach and her overall tone quality. Do I think she can pull of a heavy ballad with how she sings now? No, I really don’t. I don’t even think she could pull off something that only goes up to C5, as a strong ballad. I mean the result would probably be somewhat similar to Suzy singing Someone Like You, but better. When Suzy sang that, it was airy, soft, quiet and dynamicless throughout cause she has very limited vocal technique. Rosé is not as limited, but she does not have the technique to handle producing resonance or supporting higher in her mix or even tackling dynamics, at least she hasn’t shown that she does.

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  10. If you ever analyze Kyungri or the 9muses vocal line, I think kyungri hits an F6 in this sixth sense cover? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U7HniI4E1M I only think she went as high because it kinda has that “dual effect” when people sing to backtrack, that and the run was off and so was the note at the end, and you can hear Hyemi strain underneath the backtrack seocnds later lmao. What do you think?

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    1. That was lip synched and honestly I think it was lip synched to the original F6 by Narsha and Gain, it sounded the same as theirs. 2:58 she didn’t even finish the F5 mixed and look away the mic but the voice kept going, that is clearly lip synched. I can’t be sure it was Kyungri honestly either.

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      1. Ah I at least had hope since they were all singing underneath the original sixth sense track and you could hear them lmao, too good to be true. Thanks though!

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    1. Well this is barely challenging at all. lol The highest note in How Far I’ll Go is D5 after the key change, which is wha Sohyang did. She sang after the key change and the last sustained note is a C5. I am so happy she is singing the Moana song, but there’s absolutely no challenge for her there.

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      1. The key isn’t exactly a specific key. I don’t remember the key, what they mean is that the range A3 ~ D5 is low for Sohyang but honestly it wouldn’t have fit the song at all. She needs a song line this, in a reasonable comfortable range.

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  11. hi admin, I’ve been watching sechskies comeback and I realize that kang sung hoon the main vocal has such unique voice and the other member has praised him for being able
    to improve his vocal.. So I wondering from technique wise and vocal analysis how you rate kang sung hoon’s vocal ability? I also inserted some of his recent video.. thankyou 🙂
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QObylk4v9WQ (kang sung hoon sang the prayer)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWhmshNuhvY (kang sung hoon duet song festival 2)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gs9XW_qnaI (kang sung hoon duet song festival)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG0RNzL2X3M (kang sung hoon king of mask singer)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HTqr3Wp-R0 (three words with sechskies)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jepYoMKatho ( couple with sechskies
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWuxYp37qUI (kang sung hoon 2002 solo)

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    1. I’m sorry but we don’t have the time to watch all these videos and I’m not going to write an analysis for him anytime soon but I have seen a performance of his.
      Someone showed me these videos and I said:

      “He sings like a lot like Kim Jongkook, that nasal high larynx approach. Very bright and thin sound, kind of mostly closed inside his throat. Very weak support. He sounds like idols who debuted in the 90’s and didn’t really get any formal training…ever. His lower range isn’t bad, he has tone and he sounds comfortable and relaxed up to like C4 and D4, in the Couple video. 2:18 like that part is very relaxed for him. He’s fine from F3 ~ D4, with somewhat shallow support. Nasal throughout though. 2:40 there’s a bit of tension on the sustained D4’s, it’s just shallow and weak in support. 2:53 high larynx on the F4. I don’t hear much that’s different in the other videos. 1:14 high larynx G4’s and F#4’s in the chorus of the second song..yeah he seems like a weak tenor but I mean he has adequate pitch. He just doesn’t have any kind of true engagement of support when he sings. So his voice sounds kind of small and flat throughout.”

      So unfortunately things don’t look very good for him vocally, as they don’t for many idols who debuted in the 90’s.

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  12. Qual o desempenho delas aqui? Blackpink é um dos grupos mais fracos vocalmente? Já que pelos comentários, todas parecem fracas… mas Jennie é a mais forte entre elas?

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    1. Eu não sei dizer quem é a mais forte. A Jennie canta mais alto que o resto, mas ainda sim usa muito a sua garganta para cantar. Eu não quero dizer nada mal mas eu não muito o que analizar porque Whistle não é uma música cantada, a maior parte da música é falando e rap. 1:30 A Rosé está cantando com muita nasalidade, desde C#4 à F#4, é isso que elas mostram de canto aqui. A Jisoo também, só que só na garganta sem apoio vocal. Essa performance também não parece ser ao vivo o que não ajuda. Eu prefiro as músicas acústicas ou performances onde elas estão sentadas para realmente falar no vocal delas, nessa performance eu não tenho muito o que falar. 3:23 B4’s, eu não sei dizer quem que está cantando, mas parece ser a Jennie porque é a voz que eu não reconheço…e eu ouço bastante tensão da garganta. 4:24 B4’s para Rosé, também na garganta. É sim um dos grupos mais fracos vocalmente. 4:44 laringe para baixo aqui.

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    1. I’ve heard Soyeon on girls spirit and her support was fairly weak, her throat muscles closed making her sound tight and thin. She seemed like a weak vocalist but I don’t know Yujeong.

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  13. Hello!
    I can really tell the difference of my singing now then last year so thank you! I feel like my singing got…easier? Lol. And I’m able to mix much higher now too, maybe G#4/A4? But I do hope I’ve improved.

    http://vocaroo.com/i/s15JKGl93uwB

    This is from Red Velvet’s IS2 stage, and I know that I strained all of the Eb4s but I hoped that I improved a bit. I think my runs are a little better at times, may have gotten off key a bit though, sowwy.

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    1. Well placed Ooh in head voice, but too much air and not enough connection. 0:29 a bit too much air there, too much raspiness, too much tension. 0:45 you sound a bit flat there. Your runs weren’t bad, but you seem a bit flat also at 0:55 and 0:59. 1:24 flat again. Be careful with your pitch. Your low notes aren’t bad, just don’t drop your larynx even slightly when you go lower. 1:44 that vowel is WAY too wide. That is an Aye, not EH, it shouldn’t be that wide at all. 1:55 that run was sloppy, careful with that pitch. 2:11 too much throat, too much of you trying to be loud and powerful and making your vowels way too wide and spread out. Drop your jaw, don’t make your mouth wide. 3:04 too much throat but you know this, but the problem is that the approach is still a lot of air pushing and you didn’t start on the Eb4’s, you were already doing it on the C#4’s. I would advise you again sing simpler songs, not this rangey, not so full of dynamics, cause this is counterproductive. REALLY watch out for your control, pitch and pushing.

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      1. I knew this song was a big risk but I had my on and off moments with it before recording, l can’t place my voice well enoguh so it becomes light but not airy. Sometimes I do it right, and sometimes I do it wrong. I think these are the wrong moments, or maybe I’m just like this IDK lol.

        OH! Drop my jaw…that makes sense. Everytime I do high notes, I always thought how wide the vowels depends on how you open your throat, but I didn’t focus on my jaw. Now that I think about it…My jaw is basically half opened lol.I can barely fit a finger through the teeth. Thank you for this lol.

        I’m really trying to find a song that doesn’t have too big of notes…maybe ones that only peak at C#4/D4 at most and not powerful long, sustained ones. But it’s hard to find those…OST’s here I come 😄

        Oh, and I finally did head voice. Maybe it’s better because of the vowel, but I’ll be working on that^^. Thank youuu

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    1. I can’t, not without an analysis. I am not familiar enough with him but I’ve never heard him producing resonance so that should give you a hint.

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  14. Hi there!! So I remember reading awhile ago (probably a year or two) where someone asked if you would do an analysis for Rain, but that you were hesitant because he, at the time, didn’t have any current material out. Now that he’s getting ready, or has already (depending on when this comment is published), to release an album, would you consider doing an analysis for him? I know that your list of future analyses has grown immensely since that person asked about an analysis for him and even still, you may decide that he’s too weak of a singer to do analysis for, but I just wanted to ask.

    Thank you all for all you do! I love coming here and reading all the analyses you have on singers. I’m not a singer, but I do feel a lot more well-informed based on your analyses!

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  15. hi friends 🙂 sonamoo finally had a comeback on 9 January the song call I think I love..friends did you know that sonamoo are the only group who never did lipsync from their debut until now..This their last live pleas I need your opinions especially on HIGH.D heigh note and thank friends for always giving time to answer me even my silly one

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    1. As far as I’m aware High.D has very improper technique with a lot of tension and little support, she can’t handle high notes in the fifth octave without straining.

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  16. Hi, will you ever analyze hyerin from EXID?
    I’m curios because she is now taking solji’s parts and I can hear her voice better and I think she improved a lot (or am i wrong? :c )

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    1. If she ever has enough material, she could be analyzed. For now, she doesn’t have enough solo material for an accurate analysis to be written.

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  17. Hi admins. I just wanna know if are u aware of Kang Sira from ChungChun Music? is she a bad or a good vocalist? she’ll debut on jan. 19, i love her voice, she is my fav. In Produce 101.
    And, what do you think about this video.

    And her cover of JeA’s song :

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    1. Kang Sira who was on Produce 101? She’s close to Sejeong and Yeonjung, although I think I’ve heard more opened throat notes with better support from her than Yeonjung around B4.

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  18. Hi ahmin! I was wondering if any of the kpop idols who will be analyzed in 2017 would e ranked above average in your opinion. Personally, I don’t but I don’t have a trained ear.

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  19. Can I ask a question? What do you think of Kim Juna from Produce 101 and also the sub vocal unit of I.O.I? (Doyeon, Nayoung, Sohye, Chaeyeon and Mina.)

    Links for Juna:

    and

    I don’t have any videos from the sub vocal unit of I.O.I

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    1. Kim Juna was the strongest vocalist of Produce 101, but even she would be rated as Average to Above Average. The top 5 were Kim Juna, Kang Sira, Sejeong, the girl who was in F-ve Dolls and Yeonjung, more or less in this order. They all could support up to B4/C5 at most, none of them support above that. As far as I know none of those members of I.O.I. have developed proper breath support.

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  20. So, B1A4 Baro’s sister debuted 5 days ago, and she’s been on some music shows the past few days. Her stage name is I, but her real name is Cha Yoon Ji.
    This is her debut MV, I Wish. Apparently, it’s given a lot of people BoA vibes.

    And here is her first live performance.

    What do you think? Is there anything from her voice that particularly stands out?

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