Future Analyses (No Longer Taking Requests)

Vocalists Whom Will NOT Be Analyzed

Due to many fans not reading our rules carefully, we will provide a list of popularly requested vocalists that will not be analyzed because analyzing them would break our rules. Please read our rules before making a request.

2NE1’s CL

4Minute’s Hyuna

Big Bang’s Seungri

BTS’ Jin & Jimin

EXO’s Chanyeol, Xiumin, Suho & Lay

f(x)’s Amber

Girl’s Generation’s Sooyoung & Yuri

Infinite’s L

Luhan

Miss A’s Suzy

Secret’s Hyosung

Sera (Former Nine Muses)

SHINee’s Key

Super Junior’s Heechul, Lee Teuk, Kangin, Siwon

T-Ara’s Jiyeon

Rappers

Rules

For analyses of members of idol groups, we only analyze vocalists. We do not analyze rappers, even if they may sing at times if their main instrument is rapping, we will not analyze them as it is not fair to them. If a rapper happens to have significant vocal skill (Average to Above Average vocalist or higher) then they shall be considered for an analysis.

We only analyze half of the vocalists in a group, and only the strongest half. If a group has 8 members but 4 are rappers, then we’ll only analyze half of the vocalists in that group. So in this case only 2/4 vocalists will be analyzed. If the vocalists in a group happen to be more vocally skilled and balanced, then more vocalists will be analyzed within a group, such as the case with SHINee, Brown Eyed Girls and Mamamoo. (Average to Above Average at least.)

We only analyze vocalists with sufficient material for an analysis. Therefore groups that debuted more recently, such as in 2015 and 2016, will not be analyzed due to the lack of material. We prioritize vocalists who have longer careers with more material for an analysis.

*******WE ARE NO LONGER TAKING REQUEST ******* because the list of vocalist to be analyzed has reached a fairly lengthy size, we will be no longer accepting request until the list decreases in size.

Disbanded groups or members who left their groups and are now not active anymore in the mainstream will NOT be analyzed. Even if they may be active, they’d need to be significantly vocally skilled to be considered for an analysis. If they’re active outside of Korea/K-pop, they’re not K-Contemporary artists anymore, therefore will NOT be analyzed.

Updating Analyses

2017

Pandayeu

Kim SoHyang

New Analyses

2017

Pandayeu

Gfriend’s Yuju

Junil

Ahmin3

Baek Ah Yeon

Bernard Park

Cross Gene’s Seyoung

Gavy NJ’s Gunji

Gummy

Ha Hyunwoo

Huh Gak

Hwang Chiyeol

In Sooni

Jung In

Jung Joon Young

Kim Bumsoo

Kim Dongryul

Kim Tae Woo

Kim Jong Gook

Kim Yeon Woo

Lee Eunmi

Lee Sora

Lee Young Hyun

Lim Jae Bum

Lim Jung Hee (J.Lim)

Lyn

MC The Max’s Lee Soo

Navi

Norazo’s Lee Hyuk

The One

Park Kiyoung

Roy Kim

Se7en

Seo In Young

Seo In Gook

SG WANNABE’s Kim Jiho

Shinhwa’s Shin Hyesung

So Chan Whee

Seo Moon Tak

Sung Shi Kyung

TOPP DOGG’s Sangdo & Gohn

Ulala Session’s Myunghoon

Urban Zakapa’s Jo Hyuna and Kwon Soonil

Vibe’s Yoon Minsoo

Wheesung

Yangpa

2018 ~ Indefinitely

Ahmin3

2Bic

A.Kor’s Jiyoung

April’s Chaewon & Jinsol

Astro’s MJ &/or Sanha

Awesome Baby’s Yechan

Berry Good’s Taeha

Blackpink’s Rosé

BMK

Buzz’s Kyunghoon

CLC’s Seunghee & Sorn or Seungyeon

Cosmic Girls’ Yeonjung & Dawon

Crayon Pop’s Choa

Day6’s Sungjin

Dean

Eric Nam

Fiestar’s Linzy

G.Soul

Gugudan’s Sejeong & others

Ha Dong Kyun

Han Dong Geun

Huh Gak 

iKON’s Junhoe & Jinhwan or Yunhyeong

Jooyoung

Junggigo

Kim Dongryul

Kim Feel

Kim Gunmo

Kim Juna

Kim Kyungho

KNK’s Inseong & Youjin

LEDAPPLE’s Hanbyul

Lee Juk

Lee Jung

Lee Michelle

Lee Seung Chul

Lee Seunggi

Legend’s Listen

Lim Chang Jung

Lim Kim

Lovelyz’s Jin or Sujeong

Madtown’s Lee Geon &/Or H.O.

Matilda’s Haena

Melody Day’s YeIn and Chahee

Monsta X’s Kihyun

Mr.Mr.’s Tey

NCT’s Stronger Vocalists

Nell’s Kim Jongwan

Nine Muses’ Hyuna or Hyemi or Kyungri or Keumjo (Or all as one)

Oh Hyuk’s Hyuko

Oh My Girls’ Hyojung & Seunghee

Parc Jaejung

Park Boram

Phantom’s Sanchez

Pentagon’s Jinho & Hui

Playback’s Woolim

Jooyi

Royal Pirates’ Moonchul

Rumble Fish’s Choi Jini

Se7en

Seventeen’s DK, Seungkwan

SF9’s Inseong

So Chan Whee

Sonamoo’s Minjae & High.D

Stellar’s Hyoeun

Sung Shi Kyung

Sunny Days’ Sunkyung

Sunnyhill’s Jubi

Tahiti’s Jerry

Tim

TWICE’s Jihyo & Nayeon or Jungyeon

UP10TION’s Hwanhee & Sunyul

Urban Zakapa’s Jo Hyuna and Kwon Soonil

Vromance’s stronger vocalists

Yoo Seungwoo

Yoon Do Hyun

Zhang LiYin

Zion.T

If any of you would like your idol to be analyzed, drop your request in the comment box. If you attach videos/recordings of their (preferably) latest live performances, it will be helpful. But then again, it will not guarantee that your idol will be analyzed since it will depend on our contributors. We can’t even guarantee when we will release the analysis of the above mentioned future projects. One other reason is that analyzing vocal when there isn’t enough material to judge them will be challenging and more or less inaccurate. This will explain why judging rookie idols is an issue.

Regards,

Admin

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9,359 thoughts on “Future Analyses (No Longer Taking Requests)

  1. Since 2NE1 is no longer a group, and CL is considered as a soloist now. Are you going to analyze her too?

    And also, there’s a lot of artist in the list of 2017 analyses that wasn’t posted yet. Are you going to post them all at once or one at a time? Because its already July. You know theres only 5 months left before 2018 came.

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    1. She stills falls under the rule of being a rapper. It’s not like we’ve analyzed Yoon Mirae who’s a soloist and it’s not like we’re going to analyze HyunA, all three of them are soloists after their groups disbanded but they’re rappers before they’re vocalists. Honey, I don’t know when I’m going to post them. The 2017 list is not a promise, it’s a hopeful plan. Hopefully I can get all of it done, but it’s not guaranteed unfortunately and I apologize about that.

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  2. hello!! this is quite a general question but i was wondering if western artists place more emphasis on vocal technique and training as compared to k-pop artists in general?

    because even though k-idols start training from young ages under vocal trainers we can see that quite a few of them lack proper vocal technique. is this perhaps due to their vocal trainer just teaching them the wrong thing?? and maybe because trainees need focus more on their dancing (most of the time) and therefore neglect their vocal training?

    or are western vocal trainers just better in general and western artists tend to solely focus on their singing? sorry if this is confusing and too general a question to answer!!

    thank you in advance!!

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    1. No, they don’t. The standards we have here apply to western vocalists just as much as they do for K-pop artists. There’s this prejudice that people have that makes them think that western vocalists are somehow superior to K-pop artists vocally because of their fame but a good number of currently active artists are weak and average in terms of technique, but barely any would fall under proficient or good. So don’t get caught up in the mindset that K-pop artists are inferior vocally to western ones, because they’re not. There are questionable training systems in both the east and the west which create mixed results for a lot of artists. Adele wouldn’t be having damaged vocal cords for the second time in her career if western vocalists focused solely on singing. Neither would have Sam Smith, etc.

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      1. There’s also a lot less groups in the Western World so to stand as yourself you have to at least give off the impression that you can sing well (ie good expression, nice tone, nice texture) while in big kpop groups often sub-vocalists have basically 0 focus on their singing. This creates misconception that Western singers are better.

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      1. Oh alright. One more question, is support the same as resonance? Or is resonance like a higher skill than support? if you know what i mean lol

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  3. Just a hinit. On the top of your page, it says with bolded statement “No longer taking requests” which is very clear. But on the bottom of your text about future analyses, before the comments section but right after the vocalist list, you stated: “If any of you would like your idol to be analyzed, drop your request in the comment box”.

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  4. Hello again, hope you guys had a good start to your week 🙂

    I have a question about Jooeun from DIA again! I don’t remember seeing it posted anywhere else yet, so hopefully this isn’t a repeat question, but how do you think she did in this short performance?

    Here’s my [incredibly unqualified] take:

    I don’t know why but right at the beginning she sounded like… to make a comparison for lack of better explanation, like a car that has started moving but the engine hasn’t fully warmed up yet? I don’t know if it’s throat tension, or like not placing her voice where her it should be, but it sounded a little off from about 0:24 ~ 0:34, but immediately after that I thought the notes sounded nicely executed, though perhaps a bit breathy (~0:35). At 0:39~0:40 her low notes were actually audible, which seems to be a problem with a lot of female kpop singers (or I guess singers in general), so I think that might be good, but since I don’t know scales particularly well nor am I able to recognize which note is which, I can’t say whether the note is objectively low for her range, so I don’t know if these notes are of any merit. At 0:49 she sounded super breathy, I know she took a breath right before that but perhaps it was too shallow a breath, or improper breathing technique so she didn’t have enough air to continue going up. 1:05 ~ 1:12 sounded really well executed to me, but it also doesn’t seem like a challenging range at that point, so it seems like something that you guys qualify as an average vocalist (not trying to be presumptuous, just saying how average is like only about 1 decently developed register, but I guess it is presumptuous to say that off a 7 second section).

    When she sang “solitude” at ~1:39, did I hear a bit of vibrato or no? 2:05 ~ 2:22 sounded really nice to me, but I think I might’ve also detected some throat tension?

    I might be missing something noteworthy but hopefully you can elaborate/correct me! Like how you tell people here who send you covers in other languages, do you think Jooeun encountered any roadblocks in this performance that could be because her lacking proper intonation in English?

    Sorry for alllllll the questions, but I do appreciate all the hard work you guys put into this blog c:

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  5. Is there any reason why twice jihyo is listed under 2017 and twice nayeon and jungyeon is listed under 2018 – indefinitely?

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    1. Cute harmonies, but not very precise. The blend wasn’t that great, they were too thin and breathy at times. None of them sound very full, I generally hear a lot of breathiness, nasality and tightness from all of them for singing. This song is a bit too low for them. Sohee is supposed to be the main vocalist, but she didn’t stand out to me much compared to the others. Let’s just wait for the future.

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  6. would you be able to analyse this really shortly? they’re a duo called g.urban (but i’m just asking about one of the guys, ahahah).

    http://www.vlive.tv/video/36052
    5:05 – 5:25
    19:10 – 19:45
    27:25 – 27:45
    28:20 for however long lmaoo

    thank you so much ^~^ sorry that it’s a bit hard to get to the times because you can’t see timestamps but… sorry djjdkhkfjsbckfd ahahhaha

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    1. You’re just asking about one of the guys? Does that mean I shouldn’t really care about the other one? lol
      5:05 ~ 5:25: He has good pitch, he uses a bit too much of his glottal muscles to sing and a bit too much breathiness. His speaking voice is very different from his singing voice. He sings with a lot of stylistic sounds, a lot of the glottal tension and a slightly high larynx make him sound kind of higher/thinner.
      19:19 ~ 19:45: His runs aren’t all bad, but he tends to guess a lot of them and sometimes they just don’t seem to know where they’re going. The times where he connects his vocal cords are better but he pushes a lot like in those sustained G4’s and the Bb4.
      27:25 ~ 27:45: I wouldn’t say he is straining up to E4 here actually but it’s hard to say much actually, he’s doing a lot of stylistic things, the reverb in karaoke is just really distracting. He tends to be nasal too, for style.
      28:20: I think the way he sings is charming and people would like it, but it’s just style. I would say he is purely choosing style over technique and this doesn’t tell me if he can sing with proper technique or if he can only sing with tightness and breathiness.

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  7. Hey! I’d like to ask something about SF9. Since they have 5 vocalists, is there a possibility you analyze another member besides Inseong?

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  8. I know you aren’t taking requests but since you analyze half the vocalists in a group shouldn’t there be 2 Monsta X members?
    Kihyun, Shownu, Wonho, Hyungwon and Minhyuk are all vocalists…

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    1. We don’t always analyze half, we mostly analyze at MOST half. Some groups we’ve only analyzed one vocalist like MYNAME or T-Ara.

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      1. if you decide to not analyze the most half, is the reason lack of material? I’m guessing it’s not lack of skill as you still analyzed bts Jungkook although he is weak, and teen top’s niel etc

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  9. Hi Ahmin, I just wanted to share that in the future, when the list decreases in size, you can maybe analyze NCT’s Jaehyun, he’s one of my favorite voices and I’m so glad he’s a baritone. I like the weight to his voice, and I’ve always listened to baritone and tenor vocalists. But he’s one of my favorite voices, and he supports.

    P.S. In an alternate world where everything is different, would you like to meet a baritone Jimin, a bass V, a countertenor Jonghyun, or a classical singing Onew?

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    1. I don’t think that’s what I would want from an alternative world. I’d rather have Tiffany’s voice with my technique. lol

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      1. Hi Ahmin!

        Can you help me with this Yuju’s part?

        2:54 ?
        2:56 This may be a D5, sounds pushy but i am still confused. I know she can’t support this high, but is very strained?

        Thank you in advance!

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  10. Are you guys really gonna get through that whole list within 2017? O.o Or can you reveal which analyses will most likely be done next?

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  11. I just have a question. Would you consider analysing 9Muses Hyemi before Keumjo. Hyemi is their last original member and she has been one of the main vocalists since their debut in 2010. Thank you!

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    1. I really honestly just wanted to analyze one of the vocalists of 9Muses because vocally they are all pretty similar, but Keumjo has shown to be possibly the most skilled in technique. I just didn’t want to analyze the ones who don’t have as good of technique as her and the rest are all so similar, I just kind of didn’t think of anybody else to analyze. I’m sorry about that, but I’ll consider it.

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      1. Ok! I’m just glad you’re reviewing anyone from Namyu. They’re my ultimate bias group, so I can’t wait ti read your analysis. I have 2 nore questions:

        1. Why won’t you analyze SHINee’s Key?
        2. I’m a 17 y.o. African-American male. My vocal range is F#2-E4/F4 chest and F4-Bb5 head voice. Is this a good range? What can I do to grow my chest voice range? Thank you!

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      2. 1. Well you know our rules, right? Key is not skilled enough to break them. Half of the vocalists of a group analyzed, Onew, Taemin and Jonghyun are more than half, but Taemin is skilled enough to break the rule. 3/5 is already a lot, Key would have to be at least average to above average to be analyzed.
        2. Depends what you think a good range is but you can surely develop your mix to go higher than F4. Well have you seen any of our vocal tips for Kpop fans videos?

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  12. Hi ahmin, i would like to recommend some of NCT not well-known vocal performances in order for you to analyze them in 2018, my English is not so good so im sorry if you dont understand my words.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdHErCUiM2Q (1 on the comments has pointed out the singing parts of each person)

    I would very very very appreciate if you take time to look at these 🙂 im sorry if my comment annoys you 😦 anyway i love your blog and the effort you put in to answer all of the questions

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    1. I thought this was going to be Sohye and I was kind of confused. She has a pretty voice and her pitch isn’t bad, but I just hear shallow connection of the vocal cords, no true moments of proper support and a lot of breathiness throughout.

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    1. When he sings words like “Raise” and “Strong” he is doing a good enough job at dropping his jaw but when he sings the most commonly sung vowel in the song, Uh, with the word “Up,” his accent in English makes him unable to sing as opened as he could be. He isn’t dropping his jaw enough, he is not creating as much projection because of his placement. He lacks mask placement overall, his sound is mostly pretty relaxed but it lacks a fuller support, it lacks a more forward approach, it lacks fulness and depth. It sounds mostly relaxed. I think this key could’ve been sung in a higher key actually.

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      1. So he has support right? Thank you so much for the kind explanation, Ahmin. I’m sure my friend is thankful for your help 🙂

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  13. Hi I just wanted to know when you will get to analysing iKON vocals? Any approx time? If not can I drop a video here and you give me an idea of their proficiency or lack thereof ? hehe

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    1. Copy paste:
      “He sounds generally relaxed throughout, I hear support up to F#4, although the stretch of his vocal cords could be stronger. 0:42 he becomes a bit tight when connecting more around F#4. 0:55 those G4’s were better mixed than many others I’ve heard from him, more relaxed. 0:59 Bb4 high larynx going down to G4. I hear shallow support but good enough connection from Joy throughout, her dynamics aren’t changing at all. She’s singing in the same exact volume throughout, she’s not making any effort to breathe deeper into her diaphragm, she’s not relaxing her upper body, she’s not opening her throat. The song goes up to Bb4 and B4/C5 (?) for her, she sounds slightly tight around that range like at 2:05, the support just isn’t very strong and her throat isn’t very opened. Her vibrato is also fairly shaky. He is pretty shouty on those Bb4’s and G#4’s during the choruses. 2:56 You can physically see her throat close up and her muscles tense up when she sings slightly higher and even though she’s trying to be strong, her volume doesn’t change. Although the gap between them isn’t big in terms of votes (47 for him, 52 for her) I’m surprised she beat him actually, but I guess this song is a lot more comfortable for her than for him. “

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    1. I do believe both vocalists of KARD have support, Jiwoo may be a mezzo but I am not quite sure yet. I’ll find out once she’s analyzed.

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  14. Sorry if you’re already fixing this, but the list of updating and new analyses has 2016 included again (Is Haruko back?)

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  15. Some more recent material from Seungkwan and DK since they had a concert last week (lots of timestamps ahead lol and if I put “_ to _” it means they’re singing right after each other).

    Seungkwan sang a bit on vlive prior to it : at 0:36 and 0:54 (IOI’s Downpour)
    http://www.vlive.tv/video/35067?channelCode=F99B3

    Vocal team clip from their concert

    “Make it Shine” (starts at 1:38) 2:04 to 2:17, 2:54, 3:14 to 3:30, they harmonize the rest of the song.
    “Don’t Listen in Secret” (starts 4:17) 5:53 to 6:46, 7:12 to 7:28, background harmonizing adlibs at 7:39
    “Say Yes” : Seungkwan and DK duet, starts at 14:07 (they changed up 16:59 to 17:20 compared to the CD version)
    “When I Grow Up” : 27:40, 28:20 (it’s DK in case you don’t recognize his voice), 29:01, 29:41, 30:11 (Seungkwan), DK adlibs at 30:21 and 3:29, 3:36
    “20” : 31:21 to 31:49, 32:39 to 32:57, 33:06, 33:21 to 33:35 then small adlibs from either of them until the end.

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    1. I’m sorry I do appreciate the videos and the material you’re providing, but you keep posting quite a few videos at once quite often and you’ve asked about Chaewon before and I gave you an overall. If we want to find out more about her, let’s wait for her analysis to come out, okay? ^ ^

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    1. It’s a very underdeveloped head voice, it’s kind of placed more in his nose but it’s not very forward at all. It’s very light, thin, it’s not cutting through the placement, doesn’t sound supported and it’s D5 and E5.

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  16. Hi, I know that you won’t be taking any request but I’m super curious about Guckkasten’s Ha Hyun Woo. How would you rank him? I know high notes doesn’t always represent vocal technique but I solemnly think that he would rank at least as proficient singer considering his superb high notes and decent musicianship.

    p.s. I really love your website ^^

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    1. I am not going to rank a vocalist without an analysis, I am sorry. He’s already on the list so you don’t have to request him! ^ ^

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      1. is he? I’m sorry but I can’t seem to find his name even after checking and rechecking all over again. T_T

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      2. Oh I changed the list sometime ago and I must have forgotten to rewrite his name when I was changing the year, so thank you for pointing it out!

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  17. I know you said you aren’t taking requests so this isn’t a request. But since you said when you do take requests you prioritize according to the age of the group because of the amount of material available, would Dreamcatcher count from 2017 or from 2013 when they first debuted as MINX? Or would you not bother because you think they’re all weak? Can any of them support at least? Their main vocal is called Siyeon and lead vocals are Yoohyun and JiU.

    Similarly, did you watch any of Produce 101 S2? I know that most of them will probably be weak vocalists because they are very young trainees but there are some already debuted idols on there. I was wondering whether you would consider doing HOTSHOT. They debuted 2014 but didn’t release much because their agency is terrible, but since Ha Sungwoon (their main vocal) made it into Wanna One there will be lots of material him by next year. Plus HOTSHOT just had a comeback too.

    There are really too many idol groups now aren’t there! You need some helpers!

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    1. From what I’ve heard Yoohyeon has a better grasp of breath support than Siyeon, although she’s the main. I am not sure when to prioritize them cause it isn’t just about debut date, it’s also about the amount of material available for them considering MINX didn’t have a successful career, they didn’t perform very often so even though they had an early debut, they may not have enough to analyze them with yet.

      I avoid these TV shows, like KpoStar or Produce 101 or The Voice, all of it. lol I am sent clips from them so I’m familiar with some people but I avoid it all like a plague. I did consider doing HOTSHOT in the past but because of lack of material, I didn’t have enough to do it with. Oh I do need help actually, I haven’t been able to work on analyses since I started focusing on Youtube more, it’s a bit frustrating. ㅠㅜ

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      1. 2:29 are you sure about this time stamp? There wasn’t anything challenging happening here. 3:08 yes she hit a strained E5. Why didn’t you post this on Mamamoo’s analyses instead of this page btw?

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  18. hello, i’ve watched a video about yuju vocal analysis. could u give some comment for it?

    1) sound loud
    2) bright sound (headier mix)
    3) voice very young (younger than her age, need more development and maturing)
    4) her tone doesn’t have a whole lot of depth
    5) her belts at a C5/C#5 is really piercing and sound forced
    what are the meaning of money note? 4:25

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    1. Are these questions? Because I don’t know what to tell you but money note just means the high note that’s the climax of a song, the note everyone is waiting for.

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      1. do you agree her points?
        i’m not really understand point 3&4 could you explain it?
        voice young is it meaning her voice is not trained enough or it will be grow up by time?
        what is the depth of tone meaning?

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  19. hello! this isn’t particularly aimed at any one idol, but i’ve been wondering:

    on weekly idol, they’ve been doing lots of segments with the hello cleopatra game. i’ve seen a decent number of rappers that are able to last longer than some of the vocalists (ex: sf9’s rapper vs cross gene’s vocalists, mamamoo’s moonbyul vs gfriend’s vocalists) and i was wondering if it has to do with their vocal training at all? in the sense that vocalists may be trained more so that when they play the game it’s in a way that will be more controlled, vs when rappers play they may have less training so they go all out?

    i’m sorry if it doesn’t make that much sense, please lmk if there’s anything confusing and i will try to reword it. thank you!

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    1. I’ve seen the game once but only a snippet, I don’t actually know what they have to do so I can’t really answer. Do you mind explaining how the game works?

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      1. So it’s basically a high note battle but with a line? Then it’s just the same as a high note battle, however high you go is just however high you go.

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      1. Lool Ok so another question: I know Sejeong(Gugudan) can only consistently support up to B4/Bb4 but was there ever an instance where she produced resonance?

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