Future Analyses (No Longer Taking Requests)

Vocalists Whom Will NOT Be Analyzed

Due to many fans not reading our rules carefully, we will provide a list of popularly requested vocalists that will not be analyzed because analyzing them would break our rules. Please read our rules before making a request.

2NE1’s CL

4Minute’s Hyuna

Big Bang’s Seungri

BtoB’s Hyunsik

BTS’ Jin & Jimin

EXO’s Chanyeol, Xiumin, Suho & Lay

f(x)’s Amber

Girl’s Generation’s Sooyoung & Yuri

Infinite’s L

Luhan

Miss A’s Suzy

Secret’s Hyosung

Sera (Former Nine Muses)

SHINee’s Key

Super Junior’s Heechul, Lee Teuk, Kangin, Siwon

T-Ara’s Jiyeon

Rappers

Rules

For analyses of members of idol groups, we only analyze vocalists. We do not analyze rappers, even if they may sing at times if their main instrument is rapping, we will not analyze them as it is not fair to them. If a rapper happens to have significant vocal skill (Average to Above Average vocalist or higher) then they shall be considered for an analysis.

We only analyze half of the vocalists in a group, and only the strongest half. If a group has 8 members but 4 are rappers, then we’ll only analyze half of the vocalists in that group. So in this case only 2/4 vocalists will be analyzed. If the vocalists in a group happen to be more vocally skilled and balanced, then more vocalists will be analyzed within a group, such as the case with SHINee, Brown Eyed Girls and Mamamoo. (Average to Above Average at least.)

We only analyze vocalists with sufficient material for an analysis. Therefore groups that debuted more recently, such as in 2015 and 2016, will not be analyzed due to the lack of material. We prioritize vocalists who have longer careers with more material for an analysis.

*******WE ARE NO LONGER TAKING REQUESTS ******* because the list of vocalist to be analyzed has reached a fairly lengthy size, we will be no longer accepting requests until the list decreases in size.

Disbanded groups or members who left their groups and are now not active anymore in the mainstream will NOT be analyzed. Even if they may be active, they’d need to be significantly vocally skilled to be considered for an analysis. If they’re active outside of Korea/K-pop, they’re not K-Contemporary artists anymore, therefore will NOT be analyzed.

Updating Analyses

2017

Pandayeu

Kim SoHyang

New Analyses

2017

Pandayeu

Gfriend’s Yuju

Juniel

Kim Dahyun

Ahmin3

4Men’s Shin Yongjae

April’s Chaewon

CLC’s Seunghee

Cross Gene’s Seyoung

Day6’s Sungjin

Guckkasten’s Ha Hyunwoo

Gummy

Hwang Chiyeol

iKON’s Junhoe

Kim Bumsoo

Kim Dongryul

Kim Tae Woo

Lee Younghyun

Monsta X’s Kihyun

Oh My Girl’s Seunghee

The One

Park Kiyoung

Seo In Young

Seventeen’s DK, Seungkwan

SG WANNABE’s Kim Jinho

Shinhwa’s Shin Hyesung

Seo Moon Tak

Sonamoo’s Minjae & High.D

TOPP DOGG’s Sangdo

TWICE’s Jihyo

Ulala Session’s Myunghoon

UP10TION’s Hwanhee and/or Sunyul

Yangpa

2018 ~ Indefinitely

Ahmin3

2Bic

A.Kor’s Jiyoung

April’s Jinsol

Astro’s MJ &/or Sanha

Baek Ahyeon

Bernard Park

Berry Good’s Taeha

Blackpink’s Rosé

BMK

Buzz’s Kyunghoon

CLC’s Sorn or Seungyeon

Cosmic Girls’ Yeonjung & Dawon

Crayon Pop’s Choa

Dean

Eric Nam

Fiestar’s Linzy

G.Soul

Gavy NJ’s Gunji

Gugudan’s Sejeong & others

Ha Dong Kyun

Hanbyul

Han Dong Geun

Huh Gak

In Sooni

Jooyoung

Junggigo

Jungin

Kim Feel

Kim Jongkook

Kim Gunmo

Kim Juna

Kim Kyungho

KNK’s Inseong & Youjin

Lee Eunmi

Lee Juk

Lee Jung

Lee Michelle

Lee Seung Chul

Lee Seunggi

Lee Sora

Legend’s Listen

Lim Chang Jung

Lim Jaebum

Lim Junghee (J.Lim)

Lim Kim

Lovelyz’s Jin or Sujeong

Lyn

Madtown’s Lee Geon &/Or H.O.

Matilda’s Haena

Melody Day’s YeIn and Chahee

Mr.Mr.’s Tey

Navi

NCT’s Stronger Vocalists

Nell’s Kim Jongwan

Norazo’s Lee Hyuk

Nine Muses’ Keumjo

Hyuko’s Oh Hyuk

Oh My Girl’s Hyojung

Paran’s Ace

Parc Jaejung

Park Boram

Phantom’s Sanchez

Pentagon’s Jinho & Hui

Playback’s Woolim

Pristin’s Sungyeon

Jooyi

Royal Pirates’ Moonchul

Rumble Fish’s Choi Jini

Se7en

Seo Ingook

SF9’s Inseong

So Chan Whee

Stellar’s Hyoeun

Sung Shi Kyung

Sunny Days’ Sunkyung

Sunnyhill’s Jubi

Tahiti’s Jerry

Tim

TWICE’s Nayeon and/or Jungyeon

UP10TION’s Hwanhee and/or Sunyul

Urban Zakapa’s Jo Hyuna and Kwon Soonil

Vibe’s Yoon Minsoo

Vromance’s stronger vocalists

Wheesung

Yoo Seungwoo

Yoon Do Hyun

Zion.T

If any of you would like your idol to be analyzed, drop your request in the comment box. If you attach videos/recordings of their (preferably) latest live performances, it will be helpful. But then again, it will not guarantee that your idol will be analyzed since it will depend on our contributors. We can’t even guarantee when we will release the analysis of the above mentioned future projects. One other reason is that analyzing vocal when there isn’t enough material to judge them will be challenging and more or less inaccurate. This will explain why judging rookie idols is an issue.

Regards,

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9,888 thoughts on “Future Analyses (No Longer Taking Requests)

  1. Hi Ahmin!
    So, yesterday was that big music bank concert and I really want to ask about Yuju. I do hope you’ll answer these.

    She sings Stay With Me with Chanyeol. I think she did well, some head voice transition and a few nice phrased C#5s. Oh, I think she has a resonant Bb4 or two.

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      1. I’m glad she’s still supporting those C#5s. Honestly, she’s getting overworked. I hear this kinda lack of openness from her often (ever since the Navillera era) and her technique has gone down a little bit. She’s not that comfortable around C5/C#5 so much as she was in 2015.
        Do you guys take these things into account when analyzing vocalists? I personally think that she’s not consistent in resonance around C5/C#5 simply because she’s overworked (I mean…they’re going to have ANOTHER comeback this month) but unless that is proven otherwise, is it accounted for in the analysis? I remember Taeyeon had some not so good era (TTS) but still maintained AA-P

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  2. Hello~
    How will you rank these lead vocalists of new generation?

    Eunha (Gfriend)
    Seulgi (Red Velvet)
    Jennie and Jisoo (BlackPink)
    Yoohyeon (DreamCatcher)
    Nayeon and Jungyeon (Twice)
    Semmi (Matilda)
    (Can you also say something about everyone in this list in general?)

    And do you agree with this ranking?

    Thank you beforehand~

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    1. The video maker emphasized that that is NOT a ranking… Also No, I cannot. As you see, we’ve already analyzed Seulgi, so there’s already an analysis for her. I cannot guarantee when but there will be analyses for all the other girls, except for Jennie, Eunha, probably Semmi and probably Jisoo. But the rest will be analyzed, but no, I’m sorry, I’m not going to rank vocalists without full analyses.

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      1. Hello!
        About Matilda, I’m wondering if the reason you’re not going to analyze Semmi is the lack of material or the gap between her and the main vocalist.
        I thought Semmi was decent for a lead vocalist. Her voice sounds quite “powerful” (or should I say loud?) so maybe I perceived that as good… Anyways I’ve only been reading your blog for a few months and I still have a lot to learn :p

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      2. Those are actually the two reasons. The lack of material and gap. Yes loud is often misunderstood as being the same as good but I don’t remember anybody but Haena having more consistently developed support.

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    1. I think the thing that bothers me the most is this kind of tension coming from the sides of your jaw into the upper part of your neck, which I would say it’s because of your accent when singing in Korean from your mother tongue. 0:38 Too heavy, too much pushing on the higher parts. It’s not as much as before though! It’s lighter for sure and more relaxed, but the accent is just getting your jaw to not relax. 0:48 flat. 1:04 flat too, pulling from too low. Why don’t you try singing this without singing with “emotion” or how I’d call them, dynamics. Try to sing it brightly and without changing the volume throughout to get the mixing going, don’t even sing the lyrics. Sing it all on Nuh.

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      1. Okay! I’ll try that ^^. By the way, when I asked you if I was close to supporting, I forgot to specify, did you mean that I was close to supporting in the 4th octave or just supporting in general? Is my support shallow?

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  3. Hi! I recently found your site and really admire your dedication (: and I was wondering if you could answer my question :

    ( ^ from 2:50 )

    ( ^ from 3:00 )

    Is Sungyeon achieving whistle register or more of a falsetto? And if possible, a brief evaluation of one of the videos from the timestamp? (if that’s not too much bother!)

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    1. I’d say it’s a head voice, a really tight head voice. You could perhaps argue it’s a falsetto, but it’s most definitely not a whistle. A whistle has a whistle-like quality, it’s much thinner, much floatier. This is just a pulled up tight head voice where Sungyeon isn’t able to disconnect from her head voice to go higher, so she keeps pulling it higher. This isn’t much different from people who pull their chest voices up when they can’t mix properly on higher notes. I mean the range of the notes is all the way from G#5 up to F6, where she’s mostly just straining. Now, this isn’t too different from how Ariana sings either. Neither of them sing these parts with a whistle (Although Ariana has shown a whistle, inconsistently).

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      1. Would you say it’s impressive to reach a high note like a F6 even with straining ? (sorry I don’t know much at all about technique etc so I’m just guessing F6 is pretty high)

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      2. To an extent, yes. F6 is high but I try to stretch my soprano students that high regularly anyway. It’s not unheard of, but it’s still hard.

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      3. hello!!

        so according to what you’ve commented on pristin’s singing that i can recall, sungyeon supports up to Bb4, yehana supports (shallow support, was it?), while the rest of pristin don’t support at all?

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  4. Hey Ahmin, me again. I know that they were dancing and I don’t even know if this is pre recorded, but how was Dawon here?

    She starts singing at 0:23, 0:43, 0:53, 1:19, 1:43 and 1:53.

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    1. 0:23 doesn’t really show me much for her singing. Her G3’s lack depth. 0:46 again G3’s. 0:53 She’s a lot less whiny than Yeonjung, she opens her throat a lot better than her. 1:19 That’s just F4’s and G4’s, she sounds relaxed and supported but this is all definitely lip synched. The chorus is only like Bb4’s, where she is doing just as well. The falsetto parts go up to F5. Yeah this isn’t a very good performance to talk about her singing.

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      1. And also how were Soobin’s D5 and F5 at 1:35 compared to Yeonjung? The tightness and whiny-ness is still there, but I don’t know if they’re better or worse than Yeonjung normally…

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  5. Hi Ahmin! I woud like to ask you for their analysis in this performance especially the chorus
    part when Hyojin and J-us hits the note at the end of the line (Hyojin is the red haired guy the one who sing the 1st chorus (0:57-1:10) and sing the next line after J-u singing the 2nd chorus (2:20-2:35) and J-us is the Blue Hared guy singing the 2nd chorus (2:06-2:20) do both of them supports? and Hyojin at 3:07?does he supports them and do both of them are “analysed material” idol? Thank You Ahmin! Have a nice day! (I’m so sorry for my gramatically errors since English is not my mother tongue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQzcb1m5JC0

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    1. Do you mean if they both support that specific note or just in generally? I can’t say I’ve ever heard of this group. I hear generally tightness, their diction isn’t very opened throughout and that higher note is a C#5 in an unsupported head voice from both of them, although J-Us places it more forward so he projects it a bit better. They could all be analysis-worthy, it just depends on requests, their roles in their groups and the material available. 3:07 it peaks at D#5, again this is just head voice. This isn’t belting or anything but even the F#4’s throughout the chorus aren’t very opened and their support doesn’t seem well developed.

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      1. btw this group is ONF, they are the brother group of Oh My Girl and B1A4, and can Hyojin and J-Us improve such as they could reach the level of Seunghee and Sandeul since the are from the same Company. Hope you will look forward to them

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  6. Hello Ahmin. She’s not a Kpop singer per se, but I would like to know what you think of Haley Reinhart’s technique. She’s mainly a jazz-rock singer. Here’s her most popular performance on Postmodern Jukebox:

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  7. Its a shame….that there will not be any more request. I was hoping Hani from Exid may have been reviewed. Mainly for the fact that she has such a unique voice when singing solo, and her performance on mask. Oh well…. but good job on those that have been reviewed.

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    1. Someone asked about this before:

      “0:22 head voice, she seems to have very clean support. Aye vowel notes seem to get a bit tense. She’s like only singing up to Bb4 for the most part in her mix, she is able to transition well into her head voice. She’s not tight, she’s not breathy, she’s not shallow. 2:28 a bit whiny. 2:30 2:35 She loses the tone of her voice, she becomes too thin and soft on those notes. She also tightens up her throat in the fifth octave. She seems like a safe averagely skilled vocalist with support but not who’s able to handle the fifth octave nor produce resonance.”

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  8. Kind of an odd question, but do you think Daehwi of Wanna One is a baritone? Ever since the beginning of Produce 101, he’s always seemed to struggle hitting G4 and above in his mix. When they were singing Nayana to the trainers, Daehwi automatically switched to falsetto instead of hitting the G4. This makes me think he’s either an untrained tenor or a baritone. Here are links of his singing for reference:

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    1. You’re not the first to post this audio of him singing Paper Hearts. He may be a baritone, but these clips aren’t really enough for me to be sure but I’d lean more towards baritone for now.

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  9. Hi again, I know I just posted another comment LOL but Chungha recently came out on KoMS, and I was wondering how you think she did in the performances:

    I can understand why she lost to Blowfish Lady, her (Blowfish Lady) breath control seemed a better or she has a better sense/stronger sense of support; her notes seem to have a more piercing or perhaps clearer sound to them than Chungha. That being said, I don’t think she did bad in either song though, I think her support seemed a bit stronger in the second song(?).

    Rainbow’s Jisook guessed it was Han Seung Yeon from Kara, but Chungha doesn’t seem (to me) to have as much tension as Seungyeon, and her tone seems a bit better.

    What do you think!

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    1. I am so annoyed right now cause of this cause I keep listening to Blowfish Lady and I 100% know her, but I can’t remember who it is and I want to kill somebody with flowers. Chungha has very weak support, her muscles lack full development so she always sounds kind of wobbly and the her sound isn’t steady. It’s lack of breath control and lack of support.

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      1. I was wondering if it was just me or if she was really using a bit more chest in the second video here since it’s a lower range. I noticed she sounds even more nasal (kinda like Jongin lol) when she has to use her chest voice?

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    1. So full might be an exaggeration. Perhaps full for her, for how she usually sings, but it’s still fairly unsteady and unbalanced in terms of stretch vs airflow, she’s too shallow but she’s making more effort to connect.

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    2. So full might be an exaggeration. Perhaps full for her, for how she usually sings, but it’s still fairly unsteady and unbalanced in terms of stretch vs airflow, she’s too shallow but she’s making more effort to connect.

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  10. Hi! It doesn’t seem like you will ever be doing an analysis on this actress lee sun bin so I just wanted your short opinion of her vocal skills! There’s not much content so I understand if your analysis is not in depth or that accurate, but I just hope for you to give a general analysis based on the videos I’ve attached or other videos you can find online 🙂 Thank you (so sorry if you have received a request like this before that I didn’t notice)

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    1. Hi there. Unfortunately as you see, we don’t focus on non-vocalists, that includes rappers but also actors. As she’s primarily an actress, although I just researched and found out she was a member of JQT for sometime and was also a trainee, her main role was never as a lead nor main vocalist. For that reason, we wouldn’t analyze her so because of that, I can give you a very brief overall of her singing but 4 is kind of a lot to send all at once. Honestly one video for a non-singer is enough to get a general idea if they sing in a challenging enough range.

      She kind of sings in a husky way, meaning she kind of keeps the sound a bit thick in her throat and uses a bit too much breathiness. Her vocal cords don’t come together very strongly, her lower notes are muffled. 0:43 like just air for the G3’s in the VAPP video. I’m going to focus a bit on the ICSYV video since it’s better quality. 0:08 a bit of a lowered larynx for the G#3 in the beginning of the video with ambiguous, even though she was singing that Heize song. That was very clear, she is a lot less squeezed than Heize. 0:28 ICSYV, her placement is too narrow into her nose, she isn’t opening up her throat, her larynx is raising and she is squeezing her throat for the E5 and the fifth octave notes in general. 0:47 she aspirates her breath too much, she is pushing too much breathiness throughout and her support isn’t strongly settled, her breathing isn’t deep nor developed enough yet. 1:25 strained squeezed D5, really heady. She almost started in head voice. KoMS 1:11 She doesn’t place her sound high enough around A4 and keeps her throat kind of narrow and not opened enough to handle the lower range she’s singing in. She’s pretty nasal throughout too. I’m not sure what to make of her singing, but she has a lot of underdeveloped aspects to her singing, but a very nice voice overall that just needs polishing up.

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  11. hey ahmin, sorry, i know these sort of comments get boring and it must be a bother to answer them all (thank you for doing so, though!), but can i just ask what the person on the right is doing in this video at around 1:18?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tr5kMb81Uw
    he’s using his falsetto (i think), but he’s putting some sort of tone on it or husk or something and i haven’t heard it before, can you explain what it is? is it a stylistic thing or poor form or something? i’ve listened to a bunch of their covers because i really like their voices, so i don’t think it’s an inability to use his falsetto properly because i’m pretty sure he’s done it in another video but…this bit always stands out to me as something that was different and i really liked it.

    thanks in advance if you decide to reply 🙂 i appreciate your contributions to this blog and enjoy watching your youtube videos as well!

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    1. It’s okay! It’s what we do, isn’t it? Haha what he was doing? I would argue he was using a head voice but unsupported, with a bit too much breathiness escaping through and a whiny placement. It’s partially stylistic although that could only be confirmed with more material. Many singers do sing like this though.

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  12. 0:59~1:05 C5s support?
    1:02&1:08 A4 resonance?
    2:05~2:08 B4 closed & resonance C5?
    2:21 C5s support &A4 support?
    2:30 B4 resonance?
    3:17 C5 resonance?
    3:23 pushing C5&B4 with support?
    3:39 pushing C#5&Eb5 without support?
    3:46~3:49 how about the head voice C#5 F5 Eb5 C#5 Eb5?
    3:59 resonance C5&Bb4?
    4:00~4:04 which type of strain of Eb5&F5?

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    1. 0:59~1:05 Yes supported C5’s, but they could be more opened. Her diction is making her a bit too nasal.
      1:02&1:08 Supported, could’ve been rounder because of the vowel shape. Some resonance though.
      2:05~2:08 The B4 wasn’t closed, it was supported, the vowel just isn’t opened. The C5 had resonance.
      2:21 Yes
      2:30 To an extent, her throat shape isn’t opening at the bottom, so the sound isn’t as round as it could be.
      3:17 Yes but could be more opened.
      3:23 Closing the vowel more so than pushing.
      3:39 Tight throat more so than pushing to me.
      3:46~3:49 Lacks in terms of placement, but it has some support and connection.
      3:59 Same as before.
      4:00~4:04 High larynx for sure, squeezing her throat and really closing her vowels without needing to.

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  13. Hi admins, sorry for adding to the already abundant comments, but I just have a lot of questions about everything because I’m clueless about this stuff.

    1) Does Jeongyeon from Twice support? If so, how strong is the support?
    2) Do you know how skilled Somi is as a vocalist? I assume you’ve heard her singing, she’s everywhere lately but I can attach some videos if you need them. She’s quite young still so I can understand if she still has a way to go.
    3) Last one! How is this girl? Could you just give me a brief description of your thoughts on her? She was a part of the show that made Twice, and I always wondered if her addition would’ve made a difference to their level of vocals.

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    1. It’s okay and thank you so much for your encouraging words!
      1. She does, but it can be inconsistent and she tends to push quite a bit.
      2. Somi was not primarily focused on as a vocalist nor was she trained properly as one. Only recently did she get some focus on her own, so her pitch and tone production are decent, she’s not too breathy but it’s not fair to look at her singing harshly when she lacks so much confidence and still is learning the basics.
      3. I’ve seen this video before:
      “She supports, quite consistently but she seems nervous so her airflow isn’t too consistent. 0:27 D5’s tense, 0:33 her vibrato is shaky. 0:39 high larynx. 0:46 The balance of the muscles isn’t 100% there, I think it’s the nerves though for the B4’s. Her runs aren’t very connected, they lack precision and flow. 1:21 I feel like she was in between E5 and F5. She’s not a bad vocalist, a lot less chesty than Jihyo.” So all in all, she is certainly a more qualified vocalists than some other members of Twice, but Twice isn’t a vocal group.

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      1. Did you watch any of the Sixteen episodes? This Idol School performance of Ooh Ahh is interesting because it features 3 Of the girls who could have debuted with Twice. Jiwon (this girl in the above video) is the girl with black top, black skirt with red belt. I actually prefer her vocals to Jihyo because Jihyo always sounds like she’s wailing on her higher notes to me

        Side rant: I still don’t know why the heck Jiwon would challenge Jeongyeon in a vocal battle when she was clearly the best vocalist of the majors.

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  14. HELLO, so i’ve seen recently this performance, and i’d like to ask if there are any interestings things here you’d like to point out

    Also unrelated dumb question, can a weak vocalist (with no developed register) have good agility?, or would that skill would automatically put him/her in a higher category?

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    1. I’m not sure, I’d have to hear a weak vocalist with good agility to know what to do, but I suppose it’s possible to an extent to have better agility than you can support.

      Pristin has a lot of members and I’m only really familiar with Yewon, Sungyeon, Eunwoo and Pinky by name, not necessarily by face. So showing me a performance without a specific question won’t really give you much about them. I will only highlight something if somebody supports. 1:10 Sungyeon is the only one so far to support at all. 1:13 C5’s, phrased, I’d say they carry support. They’re slightly squeezed in the throat, very slightly but they carry support. 2:38 same as before 2:41 멀리, 리 and 흩어져 are the C5’s, they are slightly too squeezed. 3:03 bright but shouty mix. 3:06 quick F5 falsetto. Very Ariana of her. 3:07 more squeezed high larynx D5’s. Eunwoo?YeWon? Hit some G5’s in falsetto, a squeezed nasal falsetto. Next time please provide time stamps, seriously. You’re a regular in this blog, you know this by now.

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      1. Yeah sorry about that, but i did not give you any time stamp or specific questions because i was not looking for one, i was just interested in your general tohught of it (as i knew you were going to say that i was going to get that) . Won’t happen again. And thank you.

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      1. the one in the back is yeojin and the one in the front is Haseul. do they support? Yeojin does sound shallow to me, though. Haseul feels like she is shallow as well.

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  15. Hi, Ahmin! I am a fan of Monsta X. Based on the info above, you’ll most likely analyze Kihyun only. Because they’re a hip hop group. My question is, between Wonho and Shownu who are both tenor, who has the grasp of proper breath support? They’re mixing is relatively balanced to heady right?

    Thank you

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    1. As far as I know it seems to be Shownu. But it´s really rare to see him actually focusing on his Vocals so you cant count it as consistent. So I guess we dont really know whos better

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  16. I just realized that Kang Sira is not included in the list even though you said that she and Kim Juna are equal. Is it because she is not as skilled? or is it because there are’nt much request of her. Or is it simply because you guys aren’t taking requests anymore

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      1. One more question was there an instance she produced resonance? I think you answered that she produced resonance even though it was a one time only.

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    1. I’m so sorry dear, but general questions will get general answers. I hope that’s enough for you. I don’t feel anybody aside from Sungyeon really supports in Pristin. Not Yewon, nor Eunwoo, nor anybody else. And Sungyeon seems to not produce resonance and her supports gets funky around B4/C5.

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      1. Oh no worries I was indeed expecting just a general answer although I’d like to ask if Sungyeon’s runs are well executed? Like in 0:01 , 3:18, 3:25, & 6:42 🙂

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  17. And I´ve got another Question : Is she using a Headvoice at 1:28 , 1:31 and 1:39 , 1:41. For me personally 1:31 and 1:41 sound like underdeveloped Head Voices but 1:39 is pretty sure a Falsetto though I´m not sure with 1:28 it also sounds thin and weak to me

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    1. Someone asked about this:
      “No, I do think some others could support, but none of them support above like an F#4 or a G4 and none of them really had shown resonance. I am looking for older videos I’ve analyzed of Sungwoon for me to make a comparison, he is singing in a generally low range here actually. Lots of head voice, 2:45 There were F4’s before, a bit too chesty and tense, but these G4’s were definitely tense and tighter. I’d say compared to my initial impression 4:06 pretty tight around G4 and shouty, but I’d say back then he did seem to make a more conscious effort to support, at least in the third octave and below D4, but he is so heavy and pushy around E4/F4 still.”

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    1. We are not going to do a group that’s going to disband within a year. We will analyze their main/lead vocalists once they re-debut, just like we are doing for I.O.I.

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      1. I’m sorry to butt in but I had the same question. Shouldn’t you be able to analyze both Sungwoon and Minhyun then, since they are both main and lead vocals respectively, and have already debuted in other groups?

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      2. Theoretically yes, they can be analyzed as members of HOTSHOT and NU’EST, not as members of WANNAONE. Although I don’t expect us to analyze Minhyun.

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  18. I like bugging you with 2Bic songs since it’ll be a LONG time before you finally analyze them, last time it was Love Game since that was my favorite, now this one took over as not only my favorite 2Bic song but favorite Korean song right now so I’m curious what you think of their performance (and the song too of course).

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    1. 0:33 G#3 not too bad. This is a really pretty song, I have no idea who this is by. lol She has a very relaxed and more or less forward sound throughout the verses, except for some of the bottom low notes like G#3. Her support sounds more or less clean otherwise, except this is a studio track. 1:40 this is too high for her here, I know that she strains C#5’s so this isn’t new to me. I know that her support would max out at B4 or so that’s what I’m more interested in hearing. 1:45 G#4 to A4 she sounds more or less supported. 1:55 really tight and closed D5 and C#5, 1:59 I would say the B4 also still carries tightness and tension, more so than support. 2:38 B4, I would not say she supports B4, she pushes it through her throat too much but I would say she supports A4. I think she is likely to be able to support Bb4, but B4 and above, this is all strained and tight. 3:19 really tight E5.

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  19. Do you know Young k from Day6 ? I didn’t see him on the undecided list. So if you guys decide to check him out . Here are some songs you can check.

    If you have time

    P:S- These are almost all English covers not the live of any Day6 songs. Most of these songs have had repeat performance else where on youtube. When you guys do Sungjin please don’t forget to do his FULL performance of 2 songs done for duet song festival since i can’t find it in youtube. Sorry for occupying your comment column with so many videos. Thanks alot.

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    1. Although I do appreciate the videos, he’s not really a lead vocalist in Day6, so I’m not sure we have any plans of analyzing any other members of that group.

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      1. To be fair, DAY6 themselves have stated that there’s not an official main vocalist of the group because the “main vocalist” changes according to the song. They’ve said this in a few interviews.

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    1. Honestly unfortunately no, none of the members of ZE:A seemed to have exceptionally more developed technique than the rest. They’re a very similar case to Nine Muses.

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  20. Hi! When you say NCT’s strongest vocalists I suppose you mean Taeil/Doyoung/Jaehyun, right? If so, are you planning to analyze others in the group, like Haechan or Chenle, since they are vocalists too, particularly Haechan, who’s main im DREAM? Thanks~

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    1. The reason we put it like that it’s cause we weren’t sure how the whole NCT thing was going to work since they’re supposed to have an unlimited number of members. I don’t think we have plans of analyzing Haechan nor Chele.

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  21. Gfriend has released a new song again! I realize that this might not be the most reliable video but it seems live enough for me.

    I’m glad that Yuju is sounding better. She sounds less tired, less nasal and overall more opened. I hope you can simply just skip to her parts without timestamps, you can expect how it goes : Pre-chorus, first part of chorus then the bridge. That’s always Yuju’s turn.

    Im gonna try to give my piece: her low notes aren’t very nice (what note is that) but she has never been particularly good at it anyways. The first two choruses, they kinda disappeared. The last chorus it sounded nice tho maybe a bit of a lowered larynx? Her head voice sounds nice here! Nicer than before since she’s actually focusing on it rather than randomly dodging high notes with it.
    Throughtout, her support was nice. I think she had one or two resonant moments in the prechorus. I’m kinda glad that she opted to use head voice for the C#5 (?) at the bridge, she’s making an effort not to push herself. She kinda sounds light throughout which is pretty. I dont hear much nasality.

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    1. To hopefully help out a little bit Yuju sings at these timestamps = 0:41, 0:52, 1:45, 1:56, 2:32 (along with an extremely whiney eunha;;), 2:46

      Personally, this song is quite boring in terms of range and technique, at least for Yuju. Though I guess her inconsistency is showing through to her lower range/chest voice now?

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    2. I do believe SERO live videos are generally live, at least I hope so. Please do not consider me as a fan, I may know the name of lead and main vocalists for popularly requested vocalists even if I may not listen to their music, but don’t expect me to know where the pre-chorus or a first part of the chorus are, nor the bridge nor know that that’s “always Yuju’s turn.”

      Thank you to Tahmatoz for the time stamps: 0:41 head voice C#5 and Eb5, I’d argue her diction is still really pointy and narrow, it lacks openness and she can be quite a bit nasal. 0:52 0:56 0:57 all of these words, she could drop her jaw more and focus the sound more on the vowels but instead she’s skipping straight to the consonants and closing her voice a lot earlier than she really should. The Bb3 at 0:58 wasn’t too badly executed, it just dropped a bit of the projection because she didn’t place the sound forward into her mask and stayed too much inward and in her nose. Otherwise, she’s doing just fine with support and connection. This is kind of a boring range, 1:46 the head voice lacks projection but the transitions are smooth enough. I like the melody of the song, but the chorus is only like Bb3 ~ Bb4 for her, which is not a challenge at all. 2:42 again head voice, lacking in placement. 2:49 maybe a dip of the larynx, but better vowel shaping and chest placement so the projection was better on this Bb3 indeed. I don’t hear resonance but that’s because this is mostly phrased within a relatively narrow and low range where she can’t really open her vowels and shape her throat to resonate better, but that’s fine for this song.

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  22. Hi there, since Lee Sooyoung is quite a famous vocalist in S.Korea (and with over 9 albums she should have enough materials?) , is she going to be analyzed in the future? Thanks! Love the work y’all put in here! ❤

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    1. She hasn’t really been requested much before and since she’s not highlighted too much in the media, I didn’t think of analyzing her just yet.

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      1. Ahh I see. That’s true, she hasn’t been in the media in the recent years and ballad singers aren’t as famous as they used to be these days. Thanks for the response! ❤

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  23. Hi Ahmin
    Just wanna share this cover done by Yoohyeon from Dreamcatcher

    I’d say it’s a pretty decent cover, though her voice sounded a bit closed at high notes starting from the chorus.
    What are your comments :D?

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    1. Someone already asked about it so here it is:

      “0:33 G#3 not too bad. This is a really pretty song, I have no idea who this is by. lol She has a very relaxed and more or less forward sound throughout the verses, except for some of the bottom low notes like G#3. Her support sounds more or less clean otherwise, except this is a studio track. 1:40 this is too high for her here, I know that she strains C#5’s so this isn’t new to me. I know that her support would max out at B4 or so that’s what I’m more interested in hearing. 1:45 G#4 to A4 she sounds more or less supported. 1:55 really tight and closed D5 and C#5, 1:59 I would say the B4 also still carries tightness and tension, more so than support. 2:38 B4, I would not say she supports B4, she pushes it through her throat too much but I would say she supports A4. I think she is likely to be able to support Bb4, but B4 and above, this is all strained and tight. 3:19 really tight E5.”

      They might be analyzed as soon as we can, I’m not entirely sure.

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      1. Thank you haha I should delete that part cause I already downloaded the song but I really appreciate the time you took for that!

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  24. Hi! So, I did a few short covers again. I tried to focus on it being light but there was some kind of underlying quality that happens when I sing. I’m not sure if that’s a bit of throatiness (it’s not raspiness) cuz maybe I placed my sound a bit back (how exactly do I place a forward sound?) or maybe it’s just some underlying mucus in my throat.

    15& : https://vocaroo.com/i/s1yVukAdkfrv

    Britney Spears: https://vocaroo.com/i/s0rKrDrRjeDM

    2NE1: https://vocaroo.com/i/s0Wakj30PurP

    You can expect a few of the, in this case, minor things like messy runs and falsetto/head voice transitions because I’m not really focusing on that aspect. Sorry^^. Oh and can these notes be counted in my vocal range? I think I hit a couple of C#2s but I’m not sure if it’s just straight out vocal fry.
    https://vocaroo.com/i/s1A2xOkLHutL

    Thanks^^. Really thank you for putting up with me for…a year now? And it took me like, 10 months to see some progress hehe.

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    1. Again like I said, I really prefer hearing you doing exercises instead of singing songs because your bad habits of pushing, that are happening in the 15& cover, still happen. At the end of your lines you let out puffs of air every single time. You’re not managing the airflow from your diaphragm, you’re just kind of letting it go without sitting on the support. You’re throwing it and hoping it lands. There needs to be more focus. Also I do believe I said I’d rather you not sing in Korean if you’re going to kind of mumble the lyrics.

      In Hit Me Baby One More, you’re doing a much better at being lighter so good job there! What quality are you exactly talking about? The problem is that when you sing in Korean, there are a lot of Eu, Oh, and such and these vowels you have an accent on from your native tongue, where your glottal muscles close ever so slightly around the throat. Also in the chorus of 2NE1, you were doing well, except for the Aye vowels and the ending of your phrases. Your mixing did get brighter and it is lighter, it’s not as pushed which is a good thing but I’d really rather hear exercises just to make sure you’re practicing right.

      Ah, okay so sometimes the Ah vowel has the accent going on too, like the very first note in 거위의 꿈. I would say that yes, those C#2’s can be counted as part of your vocal range..but was this recorded in the morning or something like that?

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      1. Okay, I’ll record the exercises soon^^. That thing about the airflow still confuses me a bit though. I’ve replayed your video over and over again but sometimes I just can’t get it right cuz I …don’t really know where and how I’m supposed to be breathing?

        Like from the diaphragm, so I take a breath and let the diaphragm expand, but it doesn’t really feel particularly different so I’m wondering if I’m doing it wrong. I remember talking about thinking off the ribs expanding but I don’t think that works on me lol I just imagine weird things with that XD

        I like to visualize things and i do believe that during these covers, I was sort of visualizing different ways and it seems like the 15& had the bad one. I have to admit that i haven’t used your method a lot but I’ll try it again.

        And yeah, they were recorded around night time and like that, when my vocal cords sounds like they haven’t warmed up lol. So, would that make it not count? It’s not exactly a lucky note but it’s more like a note that I can only do at that time.

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  25. Have you analysed this video of joy https://youtu.be/XOne45XiVCY i wish you could analyse her fully but its against the rules. Apparently haebin is main vocalist in gugudan not sejeong but is sejeong the stronger vocalist? Also when are you going to start analyses for this year sorry for bugging you thanks

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    1. Here’s the answer:

      “She sounds very thin and closed around B4 and C5. Her support isn’t strong and she’s never fully relaxed, while her vibrato is still fairly wobbly and unsteady. She sounds like she can’t get any louder because she lacks a developed chest voice and her throat isn’t very opened.”

      Sejeong seems to be the strongest in gugudan indeed. And analyses for idols? After I’m done with Lee Younghyun, Park Kiyoung, Kim Bumsoo, Seo In Young, Ha Hyunwoo, Kim Dongryul, and maybe The One?

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  26. Hey Ahmin!
    I saw that you might be analyzing Ha Hyunwoo sometime in the near future so I wanted to leave you this video of him talking about some of the training exercises that he used to develop his voice. I though it could maybe give some insight into his analysis later. Some of these exercises seem….. questionable to say the least.
    Hope this could help.

    He starts at 33:40 and ends around 38:25

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  27. Are the likely baritones in wanna one Daniel, Woojin, Guanlin, Daehwi and Bae Jinyoung? If so, would that make them the kpop group with the most baritones?

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  28. I know you wont analyze Idol School, but can you pls analyze Se Herins job here, does she show support throughout? and 3:01 – 3:06 did she do well in that note? did she show support? and also in 3:07 – 3:10? and also at the end the sudden rise #:12) is it a high larynx? or muscle contraction? pls analyze her performance her I beh you HAHA, thank you in advance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q4riIvAT9g

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    1. I’ll only answer the parts with time stamps because I’m sorry but I don’t have time. 3:01 is mostly placed in her nose, it’s very inward and the production is generally pretty shallow. She had a high larynx on the G#5, yes and throughout this portion you highlighted from 3:00 ~ 3:15 I can’t say that I hear support.

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  29. Hi Ahmin. Let’s say a weak vocalist goes to the singing class one time per week and the other day, he/she practices at home. How long do you think it would take him/her to establish proper breath support? Thank you.

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    1. It depends on who their teacher is, how effective their vocal practice is. Singing lessons once a week are actually enough, the point is that they have to also practice everyday at least about 30 minutes to see a change. Practicing once a week is not enough, but there are too many variables here for me to give you a number.

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    1. 1:02 I wouldn’t say it was opened enough for resonance. 2:56 C#5 I would say it carries support but she’s contracting her throat muscles a lot more than she needs to.

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  30. Hi guys o/ hope you’re having a nice week.

    I’m curious about how DIA’s Jooeun did in these two songs?

    The first song is very repetitive so I don’t think you need to anything past the first chorus, especially since it’s a studio recording. It doesn’t seem too technically challenging, and I think she did well because of it, but she seems to carry lots of throat tension as she ascends up the scale?

    The second song has a wider range though perhaps less clear audio. Hopefully you will be able to extrapolate more from this song, she sounds a bit less tense but idk if it’s audio or what.

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    1. Within a relatively narrow and comfortable range she sounds relaxed and not too shallow but she quickly tenses her throat muscles around A4 ~ C5, like at 1:03 in the first song.

      Tattooed Heart, I heard it before. It’s very breathy and shallow, I’m not sure I want to hear her singing high when I’ve already heard issues with her below C5 before.

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    1. You’re the third person to ask about this video with those time stamps about SinB. Like..lol
      “She is less breathy and sounds less like she wants to sing “cute” but she is very very tight throughout her line. Her throat is closed the whole time, she is really squeezing so no, I wouldn’t say that’s slightly better than Eunha personally.” She is singing from Bb4 up to D5.

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  31. Hello again! This time, question about FIESTAR’s Linzy! I’m surprised to see her on your list, Fiestar is so unpopular but I love Linzy (she’s so pretty and her timbre is as well TT), so seeing her on the future analysis makes me think she might be like a hidden gem or something? LMAO wishful thinking aside, how did she do in these two performances? I don’t know if you’ve seen them already considering I’ve never seen her mentioned on your blog.

    Also, is there anything you can say in general about her technique, seeing as she’s on the list despite her group’s [lack of] popularity? Thanks :]

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    1. We usually put vocalists on the list despite lack of popularity but the thing is Linzy couldn’t be analyzed before cause of a lack of material. Do you know how much solo material she has available besides these?

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      1. Barely any, really! She’s never appeared on KoMS, and I was so surprised to see she appeared on Duet Song Festival. Hyemi, for whatever god forsaken reason, appeared over Linzy on Girl Spirit, which I think was a disservice to Linzy & Fiestar as a whole (same with Chaewon & Jinsol). She has other videos from this open mic(?) she was doing, and occasionally uploads something to instagram… but really hasn’t had a chance to really show her skill. I imagine doing her analysis would be very difficult, due to the lack of material for her…

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  32. I don’t know if you are still looking for material for Ha Hyunwoo’s analysis, but here is his last tv perf, where he performs Boohwal’s Story of You and the Rain, alongside Kim Jaehee, a former vocalist of the band

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    1. Support is present to an extent but it has to be better developed as his voice matures. He also has to focus on opening up more and eliminating tongue tension.

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