The Voice

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The Voice

When most people sing they mainly use three parts of the voice: lower register (chest voice), middle register (modal voice), and upper register (head voice and/or falsetto). Each part of the voice requires a different placement (which I will get to later) and produces a different sound. However, the basic technique required remains the same for each register: good breath support and control, and proper placement.

Chest/Modal Voice

The chest voice is the part of the voice that is most commonly used when we are speaking. The chest voice, also known as the lower extension, is where a person sings the lowest notes of their range (below F#4).

Middle/Mixed Voice

Used for notes at F#4 and above, it’s the mixture and blending of the chest voice and the head voice together. It’s used when singing high notes (not in falsetto or head voice) in a belted manner. For example, when you hear singers belt they are doing it in their modal voice. You can belt in a chest dominant-mix (Ailee) or with a balanced mix (Younha). A head dominant mix is also used to hit high notes. A chest dominant mix is dangerous for those with light voices because it wears away at the vocal cords, so Ailee needs to learn how to belt with a balanced mix if she wants to keep that voice intact!

Head Voice

Used in upper notes. It has that “ringing” and bright sound. It’s called “head voice” as the feeling of the resonance is in the head when singing. Example of head voice in K-pop (3:18-3:28):

Falsetto

False, airy voice that makes the upper register (high notes) easier to access with this voice. To be more specific, it is a weaker, breathier extension of the head voice. An example of falsetto in K-pop is Rain‘s “30Sexy“.

Head voice and falsetto differ in tone and production. Head voice is produced by thyroarytenoid muscles fully vibrating and coming in contact with each other, whilst falsetto is produced by only thin edges of the thyroarytenoid muscles vibrating and coming in contact with each other, which offers less resistance of the breath flow. In other words, in falsetto production, there is air passing through the vocal cords, as opposed to head voice production where no air is passing through. This causes the tone to be airy and weak with lack of resonance.

Falsetto is therefore a disconnected part of the voice, while head voice is a connected part of the voice (the whistle tone is, however, a disconnected part of the voice). We can also refer to falsetto as a “disconnected head voice”. If the falsetto is unnaturally airier than usual, meaning that an extremely small portion of the vocal cords come in contact, then we can call this falsetto a “disconnected falsetto”. When a head voice is resonant, we call it a “developed head voice”, and a well developed head voice usually sounds operatic, for example Ock Joo Hyun at 3:53-3:57:

Falsetto can also lead to vocal irritation, which leads to the damage of vocal cords if it is used too much.

Other Parts Of The Voice

Vocal Fry Register: Lowest register of the human voice. It has that “frying”, sizzling, or rattling sound. This register is useless in singing and it cannot be counted as part of one’s vocal range. Plus, using this register too often and bringing it up to relatively higher notes can be very damaging to the singing voice.

Whistle Register: Highest register of the human voice. Think Mariah Carey’s whistles.

Passagio: Place within the vocal range where the voice shifts into a different register. Each voice type has a different passagio, which is why the latter is a good indicator of what voice type you are.

Voice Classification (Fach System)

The vocal fach is a system used to identify opera singers’ voice type. Although it is a mere speculation if applied to “pop singers” (keep in mind that opera singers use a completely superior technique as opposed to pop singers), many people do believe there are undeniable components of the pop voice that could be associated to that of the opera voice, leading us to believe that certain pop singers have such and such voice types, or will have such voice types, if operatically trained.

Voice classification is done by analyzing certain aspects of the voice, such as timbre, vocal weight, tessitura, passaggi, and vocal range. However, when it comes to pop voices, only timbre, vocal weight, and passaggi are useful in identifying their voice type. The more well-trained the voice is, the more accurate the voice classification will be.

Timbre: The quality of their voice. Examples are bright, dark, cold, rich, soft, steely, metallic, mellow, warm, etc.

Vocal Weight: Refers to the “lightness” or “heaviness” of one’s voice. It is determined by the “thickness” of one’s vocal folds. Lighter voices are associated with the term “lyric”. Heavier voices are associated with the term “dramatic”. Lyric voices have a thin, small, and bright sound. Dramatic voices have a huge, deep, and dark sound. Lyric voices have more speed and better agility/flexibility than dramatic voices. Dramatic voices have more power and more volume output than lyric voices. Spinto voice refers to a voice with medium vocal weight. They have that “creamy”, “rich”, “womanly”, and fuller sound than lyrics, but are not heavy or dark enough to be considered dramatics. The weight of certain voice types may be sub-categorized into “full” or “light” (light lyric soprano, full lyric soprano, etc). Light voices possess that “youthful” or “girlish” quality, whereas full voices sound more mature or smooth.

Tessitura: Range where a singer is most comfortable singing and where their voice sounds the most pleasant. It is also known as “comfort zone”.

NOTE: These aspects MUST be analyzed in the MIDDLE VOICE of a vocalist, the most important part of the voice.

Voice Types

Female

  • Lyric Coloratura Soprano(Arguable term in Contemporary music): Mariah Carey during her prime.
  • Light Lyric Soprano: The majority of female K-pop vocalists are LLS, like HyorinAilee, TaeyeonLuna, and Haeri.
  • Full Lyric Soprano: Celine DionLara FabianSeeYa‘s Yeonji, Ock Joo Hyun, Big Mama’s YounghyunCSJH’s Lina and Stephanie, Sohyang, Apink‘s Eunji
  • Spinto Soprano: Whitney Houston during her prime.
  • Dramatic Soprano: Patti LabelleMonica Naranjo
  • Falcon Soprano: Vanessa Amorosi
  • Lyric Coloratura Mezzo-Soprano: Beyoncé
  • Lyric Mezzo-Soprano: Barbra StreisandToni Braxton, Big Mama’s Jiyoung
  • Dramatic Mezzo-Soprano: Anastasia
  • Lyric Contralto: Dear Cloud’Nine9, Cher, Ana Carolina (Brazilian Singer)
  • Coloratura Contralto: Annie Lennox

Male

  • Countertenor (Arguable term in Contemporary music): Ney Matogrosso (Brazilian Singer), Mitch Grassi, Chris Colfer
  • Leggiero Tenor(Arguable term in Contemporary music): Naul
  • Light Lyric Tenor: Most of male idol vocalists in K-pop, Chris BrownBruno Mars, Ne-Yo, etc
  • Full Lyric Tenor: K.WillLuther Vandross, Peabo Bryson, Park Hyo Shin
  • Spinto Tenor: Michael Bolton
  • Dramatic Tenor: N/A
  • Baritenor: N/A
  • Lyric Baritone: SHINee’s Key and Minho, SS501’s Park Jung Min, EXO’s Chanyeol, John Park, Busker Busker’s Jang Beom-Jun, Rain, Big Bang’s T.O.P., Super Junior’s Kangin, Kibum and Siwon, B.A.P’s Yongguk & Zelo, SG WANNABE’s Kim Jinho, Hwang Chiyeol, 2AM’s Jinwoon
  • Dramatic Baritone: N/A
  • Bass-Baritone: N/A
  • Lyric Bass: N/A
  • Low Bass: N/A

Falcon Sopranos, Basses, and Contraltos are very, very rare voice types.

Vocal Range

Series of notes that a singer is able to produce, starting from the lowest note to the highest note. Only notes that are musically “useful” are counted as part of a singer’s vocal range. Notes produced by squealing, screaming, and shouting are not counted as part of one’s vocal range as they cannot be used musically. A vocalist has full control over their instrument when they can produce a healthy and powerful sound in EVERY single note of their range.

A person’s vocal range can be very small (Judy Garland) or very large (Mariah Carey), but the size of one’s range does not determine whether or not they’re a good vocalist — contrary to common belief. Therefore, if someone says ‘X’ is a good singer because they have an “extensive range”, they’re most likely talking out of their ass.

You can find your range by using this video:

Your vocal range also doesn’t determine your voice type.

A couple vocal range videos in K-pop:

As you can see, Taeyeon has quite a small vocal range whilst Ga-In has a significantly bigger one; however, Taeyeon is far superior as a vocalist to Ga-In, emphasizing my point.

Note Identification/Naming

One of the commonly used methods to name a note is through the “Scientific Pitch Notation”.

The musical notes consist of (in order): C, D, E, F, G, A, B. If you count the next C, it would be one octave. So one octave is eight notes. The number next to the note is the octave. For example, C5 is the note C (from the piano) in the fifth octave.

b = Flat = Half Note Lower
# = Sharp = Half Note Higher

Musical notes in order (sharp and flat notes included): C, C#, D, Eb, E, F, F#, G, G#, A, Bb, B.

For example, my vocal range is B2 to C#6. Therefore, I have three octaves, one note, and a semi-tone of vocal range. Most untrained people have around a two octave range, but as you master vocal techniques, your range can expand.

298 thoughts on “The Voice

  1. Just a question: is there a difference between a vocalist who has a natural “brassy” tone to them but has a good technique and someone who is just plainly nasal? or is their tone brassy because their nasal?

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    1. I’ll copy paste what I said about it haha
      “I don’t agree with certain people being over certain people or specific ratings. I won’t comment on people who may be in the right section but not the right place, so only ratings I find to be questionable will be addressed.

      . Baek Jiyoung can’t produce resonance, sings through her nose and sings with tension outside Bb3 ~ B4, she is an average vocalist, I can’t see her being at the top of a B tier.
      . Kim Boa is still arguable but she gets easily throaty around Bb4, I know she’s most likely a mezzo but still…
      . Bernard Park was inconsistent with resonance before and his support can be shallow, I think he’s too high.
      . Hani has really weak support, she can’t support well above A4/Bb4 and she has an airy weak tone production, she’s very similar to Suzy actually vocally.
      . Dia has issues with Eb5 and has issues with an underdeveloped lower range, no true head voice from what I’ve heard and if it is, it lacks resonance. She should be A or B, or in between but S seems too high.
      . I don’t know Niel or Sungjae well enough yet but I am skeptical about their placements.
      . Changmin is much too high, as in TVXQ! ..he has shallow weak support, can’t support properly above F4 and sings almost entirely with a nasal closed throat sound..
      . Seunghee of OMG has really good placement and produces resonance with consistency up to B4, she should be higher to an extent.
      . I’m not sure about Kevin, V or Youngjae yet but I think they possibly have better support than the other D vocalists, they could potentially be C, but I’m not sure yet.
      . Some of these people lack enough material to be rated at all like Chanyeol or Hyerin…
      . Roy Kim COULD be higher but I’m actually not sure, I really need to listen to him more..

      I know they don’t put people in between ratings but if they did then I’d have some other changes but actually for the most part this seems pretty on point so good job to them. If anybody is wrong, they’re not wrong by far. The only people I think are definitely far off are Dia, Jiyoung, Hani, and Changmin really…”

      If I were to address other things, they don’t vocalists who are in between but we do so we’d rate Ailee, Kyuhyun, Hwanhee, Yerin, Lee Hi, Raina, BoA, Seohyun, Jessica and such as in betweeners, not on a single rating but this is not bad.

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  2. Hi guys. I’m really beginner in vocal. So many things that confusing me. So i wanna ask sth. When i tried the 1st vocal range video u posted above i could hit F3 for the lowest untill F5 for the highest. I think A3-D5 is the most comfortable notes. F3-G3 & E5-F5 isn’t comfortable, sounds a bit airy. Is it falsetto? But us Falsetto included in determine vocal range? Am i a mezzo?According to the 2nd video u posted, the alto part is too low and the soprano part is too high, so am i? And ofc it’s all not supported, right? Since i don’t know the proper breathing techniques is, but i’m sure i don’t breath from my nose.

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    1. Well we would have to hear you to tell. Range doesn’t necessarily tell us your voice type and E5 and F5 could be mixed and it could be falsetto, it would depend on what you sound like. You could be an untrained Soprano or a mezzo Soprano, we can’t tell unless we hear you.

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  3. Hi! I’m not sure where the best place to post this is, but could you listen to this and maybe give me some tips on what i should work on, or a good song to practice on? I’ve always liked singing even if i’m not very good at it, but i guess it’d be nice if i could learn to sound decent too lol

    (i cut off a bit of the first line of Jasmine’s part so i’d have time to take a breath)
    ah… i should post this quickly now before i get too shy and change my mind haha

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    1. When you listen to yourself singing, like this audio, can you hear yourself going off pitch? It usually happens at the end of lines and when you go down in pitch, you go slightly flat. It sounds as though your jaw is not dropped enough and as if you don’t take enough deep breaths, they seem shallow and kind of chesty instead of focused on your diaphragm. Also use a bit of a vocal fry to bring your vocal cords together, there’s too much air coming through. You shouldn’t run out of breath or need more time to take a breath in that line actually, so make sure to take your time and even slow down the tempo of the song a bit to focus on deeper diaphragmatic breathing. ^ ^ Haha don’t be too shy, you have a nice voice!

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      1. Thank you~ Yeah, i can hear it (i don’t know if i catch it every time, but sometimes i can tel that i’m singing too low, and sometimes it just sounds a little off but i can’t tell how exactly). Part of it is probably bad control, but i’ve noticed i have a bad habit of dropping too low in pitch at the end of lines, and also on certain places in some songs, it’s as if my brain guides me through slightly the wrong melody… i’ll pay even more attention to the pitch, and maybe it’d help to start fresh with a song i don’t know where i haven’t worked in the wrong notes too much? (i used to sing this when i was younger, but didn’t listen to it a lot lol… some parts are also slower in my head, so i get a bit unfocused when i just try to not fall behind the actual song). And i’ll focus more on my breathing too, i feel like i am thinking about breathing in deeply, but when i start singing it goes shallow again…
        I sang along to the movie version in one headphone to keep an even pace, Aladdin and Jasmine’s lines run into each other a little and the jump between the lines was quite awkward (even more if i tried to take a breath between them), so i thought it was easiest just to skip a few words xD

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      2. Yes actually starting from scratch won’t keep you stuck in a habit of a song that you’re used to singing wrong already. So start a new song! Oh listening with the head phones can confuse you too, it’s better to sing by yourself.

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  4. Hi,

    I have a question about head voice. Should I rise my soft palate when singing in head voice/falsetto? Also, when singing in head voice, can “thicker voices” like contraltos/male voices feel the sensations in the head sinuses (forward, in the forehead) instead of just above (where your hair is)? I read somewhere these voices couldn’t produce a “pure” head voice…

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    1. Oh my god, your profile picture. You sound much better than the girl singing with you. I don’t know for sure what your voice type is, I’d like for you to sing higher in your mixed voice because it sounds like C3 is too low for you, but your highest note was like Eb4. I’m really not sure, I would want to say tenor but I’m not sure.

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  5. Hello, I’m trying to improve my singing. Could you perhaps listen to my Soundcloud and point out things I need to work on? That would be really nice. I’ve been singing for quite a long time now but I still struggle with high notes and my breathing sucks that I go out of breath a lot. And I’d also love to know my voice type, do I have to do the vocal range thing and upload it somewhere?

    Here’s my soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/rachelcarolina

    Thanks a lot! Sorry for such a bother.

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    1. So I was going not to reply because I have to go out soon and run and do something but then I gave a quick listen and I spotted the problems and the good things right away so I’m replying regardless. First of all hi. lol What I think of your voice first is that you most likely sound like a Soprano. You have a beautiful tone and you sing so nicely, without much airiness in tone whatsoever, you’re clean in your approach, your vocal cords are connected, you sound relaxed, supported. I listened to Love Me Like You Do and the G#3’s were great, but then what happens that I noticed above about G#4, you tend to start sounding tighter and it’s like your jaw sounds like it doesn’t drop low, it feels as though your voice becomes trapped in your throat and in your nose and your vocal cords become somewhat less connected. The issue with that is the is just you seem to be relying less on an opened approach and truly supporting and instead you go for those high notes as though they are a struggle in your mind. I mean Lay Me Down, the chorus is just A4’s, you shouldn’t have to have an issue with them so try to take nice deep breaths before you sing those lines, drop your jaw and when you breathe in keep the jaw dropped and opened and feel the coldness in the back of your throat and allow your voice to come out right away instead of letting your mind psyche you out. So take your time to breathe deeply, make sure you put your hands on your belly and you feel your stomach inflate like a balloon in every single direction, emphasize that the effort should come from below, not above. You shouldn’t have much of an issue with getting this if you relax. Make sure your shoulders and your chest don’t move when you breathe in and try nice opened vowels. Vowel shaping, “love me like you do” “lay by your side”, Aye and Uh, make them as big and as opened as possible. Okay?

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  6. Hey, I was not quite sure where to post this, since it is a rather general question (but hey, so are the other questions here).

    First of all, I think this site is great and really fascinating. I have been singing for years and have even taken four semesters of voice lessons, but only now am I really getting a better grasp of the technical side (resonance, registers, voice type, etc.). Reading the vocal analyses opens up a different world to me, allowing me to hear the singers with a more critical ear. Thanks for that.

    However, mixed right in with this vocal erudition is a common remark that I have trouble fathoming: “[So-and-so] Has good pitch.” I am a die-hard SHINee fan, but I cannot say that I have ever heard any one of those singers sing on pitch consistently in a live performance. If they are on pitch, I generally assume that auto-tune–be it live or pre-recorded–is involved. Can anyone explain this mystery to me? I mean, to be frank, their pitch is absolute shit, although with auto-tune, of course, it doesn’t need to be any better. (More generally, though, I’ve always been confused with how they can get away with their solos in live performances being so pitchy. It’s hard for me to believe that any fan could be THAT tone-deaf.)

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    1. Trust me, I took singing lessons since I was 14 and it wasn’t until I was like 20 that it all actually made sense to me. lol When you say any of those singers, do you mean SHINee or do you mean people in general? Do you have any examples? Cause centered pitch is kind of funny, most people recognize pitchiness but a lot of people don’t. Runs, often runs are really pitchy for most singers in K-pop but hardly anyone notices. Now as for just singing in general, some people have such weak support that they kind of sing flat all the time, like for an example Hyeri of Girl’s Day, Goo Hara of KARA, Ahyoung of Dal Shabet or even Minho actually has a lot of issues with centered pitch. Now a lot of singers tend to go off here and there, when they’re dancing, when they’re tired, in transitions, in runs. It really depends, when we say someone has good pitch, we mean when they’re in good condition and only worrying about singing, not dancing and performing a lot. I’m not sure exactly what your question is so do tell me if I’m speaking nonsense, but for the most part, SHINee sings on pitch and they have pretty good pitch. They do go off here and there, the weaker vocalists more so than the stronger ones. Everyone has off days too. Now if you listen to many performances, I’d rather listen to one where they’re standing and singing a bad for an example. Again do you have any examples?

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      1. Thanks for your prompt and thoughtful response.

        Yes, certainly there’s no question that trying to sing and dance at the same time is a challenge. However, I have to say that I don’t think any of the SHINee members are in tune, generally, even when they are standing.

        Here is an example:

        (Sorry, the song doesn’t start until about 12:00.)

        I could go on and on pointing out the pitchiness in this one, but in just the first line, Jonghyun consistently sings out of tune. It is most evident on his second note, a G, and almost all of the reiterations of that note during that phrase. The fourth time is ALMOST there, but still flat! The fifth time is flat again and sounds very under-supported. Right afterward, Onew is also very flat on the same G, and he is also consistently flat on the whole step below that—and, again, so is Jonghyun. Again, I could go on and on. It’s not just the higher notes either. During the pre-chorus Key has a line (a series of D#’s and a drop to an A#), and while his D#’s are okay, his A# is definitely flat and under-supported. As another example, Taemin’s second note of the chorus, a high A#, is VERY flat.

        To be honest, it sounds to me like every single note is at least a little flat. To my perception, it’s a surprise when they actually land a note! And that’s my general perception of their performances, really.
        So I’m pretty confused here. Is there some dramatically different standard that people use for pop music? Even though they are standing and not moving at all, I could hardly call their work here worthy of performance at all.

        I mean, I guess it’s fine if you use auto-tune and that’s your gig—it’s pop music, that’s how they do it, whatever—but then why don’t they use it all the time? Why would the managers allow them to get away with singing SO out of tune in live performances?

        I consider SHINee to be talented, but talented as pop idols and not really as singers. Or rather, they are good at studio singing, perhaps, which requires a somewhat different but, for the most part, simply more limited set of skills. That is, they know how to emote and make their voices sound interesting and pleasant, so long as auto-tune is involved. But I could say that about a lot of artists, and not just in K-pop.

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      2. When you say this, do you mean this for SHINee only or for pop singers in general? I don’t think I’d call it auto tune, instead what’s used in studio is melodine, which can easily fix pitch and more or less center it in studio recordings. This is irrelevant anyway though. Okay see the thing is, and I use this term seriously and in a no offensive manner, but you’re being more or less anal with it due to expectations regarding music from a non classical background. With pop singing, differently from classical singing, singing with clean tone as well as singing DEAD on the note isn’t as needed. You may have perfect pitch which may be why this bothers you more or you may have a very sensitive ear for pitch…actually I’m going to link you a test I’d like you to take cause I’m curious on how precise your ear for pitch is, like the difference between two notes that are less than a semitone apart.

        So the thing with this song is, they’re sliding, a lot. They’re not singing a clean legato line for most of this, so they keep sliding down and out of every single note at the end of the phrases. Sometimes when their throats are closed, the pitch is more or less below the perfect note. 12:24 that was like no excuses, flat. But that was to me, the run. His runs are never spot on, so the run started flat and ended flat. For the rest, they may have all been slightly below pitch, but that’s kind of acceptable in pop. You can be 10 cents of a hz like slightly below or above the pitch and it will still be okay. So I’m not sure what to tell you, I wouldn’t call their pitch shit. It’s definitely not 100% spot on, but to call it shit is a bit too far. I’d have to hear someone not be able to sing anywhere near the center of pitch of a melody for it to be shit, or to off key in every single line. Maybe your standards for pitch are excessively high so this can be bothersome for your ears because your ears might be very sensitive to pitch. To me this is acceptable, for live singing..for anybody really. I decided to compare listening to the studio version and for sure, the pitch center in the studio one is more or less dead on, for this they’re always slightly below pitch or kind of in the center but never 100% in the center throughout but that’s more of like a human thing to me. So again, do you only feel this way about SHINee?

        http://tonometric.com/adaptivepitch/
        I think you’ll probably do really well on this. Do let me know the result and forgive me if I said anything disrespectful. I don’t think what you’re saying is wrong really.

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  7. No need to apologize. If anyone should apologize, it should be me, but you’ve been very patient.

    Right, so that test got ludicrously difficult. I eventually got to the point where I just had to keep clicking the down arrow just to get to the end of the test (also, I kept clicking down because I suspected that there was a bug in the test telling me I was getting them all right–I’m still not sure whether that’s the case or not). Anyway, it told me that at 500 Hz, I can reliably differentiate tones 0.6375 Hz apart.

    Okay I took it a second time and really, really tried my best to finish to the end. I felt like I was half bullshitting the answers, but I went with my gut. I ended up with, “At 500 Hz, you can reliably differentiate between two tones 0.35625 Hz apart.”

    Anyway, so I might have pretty good pitch, but I still think that SHINee is way off. And it’s not just SHINee; they’re just pretty much the only K-pop band I listen to. (I also like some of BigBang and some of G-Dragon. Also, I suppose saying I am a “die-hard” fan is a bit strong.) Anyway, to say that pop music allows for greater variation in pitch doesn’t account for the fact that there are tons of pop singers (from the days before auto-tune, Melodine, Evo, etc.) that have far better pitch than these guys.

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    1. Yes of course there are vocalists with much more centered pitch. You have a very sensitive ear so you can tell a lot better than most people. I wouldn’t say they’re way off but that’s because to me it’s not a level of flatness that bothers me, but I can see where you hear it.

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      1. Oh this was fun! I took it just twice, but the second time I was more careful on some. I think if I took it again I’d lower my number. first one was 4.05 (sloppy, didn’t even notice the replay button so I didn’t re-listen to anything, and hazarded guesses. Second time, paid attention, replayed if needed, .9. I listened to that SHINee video and was appalled. LOL!! Guess that’s why while I love Kyuhyun and Park Hyo Shin. I mean, I can still hear when Kyu has pitch mistakes. Most of them, I just brush off, they are minor and come sometimes with sliding, but even the ones where it’s obvious, I chalk it up to nobody being perfect. With his warm timbre, I can tolerate a lot. With PHS I only listen to his newest performances, including musicals. I avoid anything from the first part of his career, before he fixed his technique from that floaty, breathy lowered-larynx sounding thing. I still hear bits of it sometimes, especially in older songs, probably due to habit.

        Who do you feel has the most consistent pitch of the ones you’ve personally reviewed? Besides these two, I like APink’s EunJi’s tone, and she’s usually pretty on pitch. Actually, I think EXO’s Chanyeol has great pitch, even though his singing chops are not awesome, he has a nice tone. Baritone, right? He’s sounding better live, having to take over parts from members lost, and also being given more solo lines. He does a ton of background vocal leads, he’s really musical, IMO.

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    1. She’s not bad, but to say she’s the best vocalist in Brazil? I can’t agree or disagree. Her placement is really good, she does get a bit screechy the higher she gets though. Her runs are nice.

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    1. Hi dear, sorry we didn’t have enough to reply to your comment earlier, but don’t lose hope, we always get back to it. ^ ^ Your pitch is mostly pretty nice, you tend to be slightly flat and there like at 0:55, 0:59 and 1:09, but that’s mostly because the song is too low for you AND your’e singing a lot of runs that are a bit hard for you to sing through. I really like your interpretation, you have this sort of cry-thing going on while you sing and your diction and accentuation are nice…you give each word its meaning with good vocal inflections, but what you lack is control and breathing. You should avoid runs without taking the time to sing them very slowly before u speed them up to the original tempo of the song. Watch out for you pitch, stop pronouncing the R’s so hard, make yourself sound more British. Breathe deeper into your diaphragm, make sure you take your time to sing with good breath control, that you’re relaxed. You sound shallow, you have weak support overall. Sometimes your phrasing is odd, but it could be because this is an English version. Concentrate on just taking your time to breathe and try to sing this in a higher key, then focus on pitch and openness.

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  8. Hi, I would like ask how to sing in mixed voice , I feel that my voice sounds so heavy and I can hardly pass between head voice and chest. When I try to do a mixed voice sounds too bright, shrill and it cracks does not mix.

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  9. Uma pergunta. Eu sei que o “Whistle Register” não é incluído no suporte de um vocalista, mas ele conta na extensão vocal? Ou ele é mais um extra do que realmente uma área cantável?

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  10. What exactly is a “Pretty voice”? Like i understand that how attractive a voice is, is subjective… but weak vocalists like henry who have no support at all or strength besides his pitch sound different like intolerable to the ear but other ones who are weak like bom and jay park have tolerable voices, is it something they are born with or is it because they have some support over henry?

    Lol i think i sound incoherent. Basically I love learning about the voice and this type of analytical vocals stuff so i was debating whether or not to actually try and learn how to sing but my voice is not really tolerable but if i do progress to compotent and above will i lose this intolerable-ness that my voice posses or will it always be that bad even if i can be resonant and stuff? Because that really unmotivated me.

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    1. That just depends on the listener truly, so comparing weak vocalists is one thing. Are there any non-weak vocalists who even with good vocal skill still have intolerable tones to you? If so, that’s just a personal opinion and shouldn’t stop anyone from learning to sing.

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  11. Hello!~~~😀 I’m not sure exactly where to post this, so I’ll post this here, if that’s okay?
    So, this guy came on I Am A Singer China this week and got first place:

    In comparison, here is the person who was voted off this week:

    He’s been having some trouble with his singing for the past few weeks, and I think (?) he was sick this week, but do you think of these people’s technique? And the show is popular vote by 500 people + some music critics who are mostly obsessed with metaphors and tone than actually explaining anything -.-
    Thanks!

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  12. Não é uma das melhores performances dele mas em 3:17 a high note foi ruim?Achei que ele estava nervoso(Ele faz uma cara de desapontado após LOL)

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    1. Nothing too new, some issues with vowel placements, a bit of tightness. Good support, placement could be better on the higher parts and transitions but she’s singing with a connected head voice a lot more consistently now it seems. Next time post a question like this on the vocalist’s vocal analysis, so on Seohyuns analysis in this case.

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  13. In the excellent category, tenors are supposed or suggested to nail C5/C#5 and Bb4 for baritones. Is it brutally hard for tenors and baritones to mix supported notes beyond those parameters?

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  14. Você sabe o nível da Ock Joo hyun ? Em uma entrevista que vi parece que ela treina a Seohyun ultimamente (não sei se é atuação ou técnica vocal lol)

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  15. hi lol it’s me again and i know im kinda annoying asking again about my singing and i totally understand if you decide to ignore this message LOL
    anw if you guys do decide not to ignore this or sth idk (im sorry im rambling cries) i would love to have some feedback on this;

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    1. I’m impressed that this song came out like last week and you already know it well enough to sing it haha 0:24 That F3 was kind of hard to get out, but not that bad. 0:27 flat, also you’re still kind of doing that thing where you break down the rhythm a bit too much like at 0:36 0:46 0:50 and such, but it’s much better than last time. Your falsetto tends to sound shakier than the other parts of your range, your vibrato is kind of wobbly throughout. 0:59 flat and the last note in that line was flat too, make sure you don’t let your pitch fall flat. 1:21 flat, falling flat in that line, also in the falsetto transitions. Your muscles need more development with both tone production so that they don’t shake and so that the pitch is more spot on, especially in your falsetto. You sound kind of bright and heady in your mix which isn’t bad, but you need a bit of balance. Your vibrato actually reminds me of Seulgi’s and Joy’s, they have fast wobbly vibratos too interestingly enough. 2:27 flat again, aside from other parts in between. Just watch out for pitch, you have a nice voice without a doubt. 3:45 oh yes go for that mix, that was pretty high. Not bad for how high it was, but really work on breathing and stabilizing the control of airflow with your pitch and stuff.

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  16. Hi, ahmin. I was wondering about the time you said that I could send a clip of my singing to verify the supported range. Is there even a possibility I could include my lowest note and my highest, I don’t have a tuner so I don’t really know how big is my range. Another thing I wanted to ask, because I forgot, is how to send it. I think you said soundcloud or….youtube. The reason I bring this up is because I actually might have one lapse of free time in the coming weeks so I can record myself and send it. I’m so busy……haha.

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  17. hi im going to ask about supported range. many analysis said male vocalist cant support up to c5 but they can hit above note. let say baekhyun, chen, junsu, taemin, jonghyun, etc. if they cant support them, then how do they hit the notes? is it okay for vocalist to sing those notes in that way?

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    1. If you’re straining, it’s definitely not okay to sing notes in that way. Well if you can hit a note, it doesn’t mean you can support it. Many people have notes in their range that they achieve by straining. Screaming, yelling, shouting..all of those allow you to sing notes outside your comfort zone and that’s what these men do to sing above C5.

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      1. so they just strain the notes then? that is really make sense. im a bit confuse when you say those vocalist singing above c5 more than some female vocalist did. but their supported range are below c5. is there any true vocalist who can support c5 and above? if you said supporting b4 is already high for a tenor, then what note is the average for male? of course other than hyosin, naul, or dongha because they probably can do it

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      2. Well it’s basically that they sometimes sing higher than girls, like when they try to belt F5’s more often than Sopranos sometimes. I don’t know of any tenors who can truly support above C5 consistently. Average? Well F4/F#4, that’s why that’s what part of a tenor’s supported range usually when they’re classified as average.

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      3. any tenor? even jung dongha or naul or park hyosin? but they certainly ever done that before, right? although not consistent. i read kyuhyun can support d5 at one time.so based on many comments, tenor highest supported note is c5 and soprano is f5?

        for average supported note f4 seems a little bit low. i dont know why this note became the average, but in this blog many tenor can support above f4. so i thought maybe a4 is the average

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      4. I have never heard a tenor consistently supporting above C5. Many tenors can support above F4? Really? There are so many weak tenors then.

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      5. Support above C5? I made a point to say “consistently”, so yes I’m sure vocalists like Kyuhyun and perhaps even Naul or Hyoshin may have a couple of inconsistent notes above C5 support, but like I said, consistently supported? They peak at C5. Soprano F5? Oh no, there are many Sopranos who can consistently support above F5.

        Again we actually just don’t have as many tenors analyzed as we have sopranos, so that may be why you think a lot of tenors can support A4. Also there are more competent tenors than there are competent Sopranos, whereas there are more good sopranos than good tenors. F4/F#4 is average for a tenor, Bb4/B4 is average for a Soprano.

        I realize this is a reply to an old comment. I was on the search bar and got confused but I gave more details to the answer than I did before lol Sorry~~

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      6. haha i only look at tenors that falls above average and above. even they can mix up to g5 that is huge.
        yes to this point, i will accept your answer. thank you, good day

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  18. Hey! I just want to ask, can you give an advice how to increase my vocal range? It’s very small and I’m not satisfied with it…

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    1. That’s a very broad question, I don’t even know what your voice type is or what you sound like, I don’t know what issues are causing you to have a narrow range. Watch our tips for K-pop fans videos and see if that helps you get a head start.

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    1. For Sopranos and Mezzos, they sing for the most part in their head voice. Some may sing with chest voice, but not with a mixed voice.

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      1. Is there a pop singer with a head voice developed to the level to be able to sing opera? Or is it a totally different technique? Thanks!

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  19. Does a voice become “too heady/bright” or “too chesty” when it loses power or becomes strained? Is too heady better than too chesty because it’s easier on the vocal chords?
    If one maintained good vocal technique and practiced throughout one’s lifetime, at what point would the voice decline due to age?
    Could you listen to a YouTube playlist of me singing and rank me on the scale? https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP6Ejqzu3_yLEYjk-hHi6ihcEcQmC7tSJ
    I think I have support around D3? ~ G#4? and range C3/C#3-E6. But I could be pulling facts from my butt and not even have a supported range. Could you perhaps confirm my supported range?
    Is it possible to extend my range? Will I ever be able to sing C3 or B2? Because the song Halo goes down to C3 and I think it would be cool to be able to sing that in the original key someday.
    My lower range seems to get fatigued when I mix lots of G4’s and A4’s. My D3’s are there when I start, but after 30 minutes it’s more prone to cracking/my vocal
    cords have a harder time connecting (but I think only if I use mixed voice). I usually stop singing after 1 hour because that marks the point when Eflat3 and below becomes a bunch of cracking.
    Will my stamina improve as my voice matures, or am I doing something wrong? If I’m 15, my voice is still young, right? At what age does a voice become at its prime and then its decline?
    I don’t care if you only listen to 30 seconds of me singing if that’s all you need to point out something I’m doing terribly wrong/rank me.
    Sorry, that’s a lot of requests. If you can’t listen to it or answer my millions of questions, that’s okay. You seem hella busy ^-^
    Are you planning to do covers of popular kpop songs? I think they would sound really good
    And you guys should totally try to get idols to read this blog! That would be so cool :0
    It’s kind of odd that some idols don’t have much breath support. Don’t they have vocal coaches?
    I wish Luhan would sing better -_- He’s so cute that I’d spazz out if he could sing well. lol I’m so shallow
    Do you know who EXO-M’s vocal trainer was? I want his name for… research
    Your guys’s blog has helped me improve a lot, especially because I used to lower my larynx to sound “soulful.”
    Thank yous to all admins/contributors!

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    1. You can still be balanced and strained, or chesty/heady and surprised. Too heady is better than too chesty yes. I mean not sure about your third question, it can vary from person to person also for ones prime, it depends on the persons technique, voice type and gender. Of course it’s possible to sing lower!! The thing is from what I’m hearing.. Your voice is a bit too airy, a little bit too light and you just still sound pretty young. You have a beautiful tone though, support is there, nice runs.. But when you sing softly. When you get louder, there’s too much of a push of volume, the F#4 in bust your windows was nice but in 사랑했지만 you sounded a bit too loud and pushed, especially on the A4. The F5 on the EXO duet was really nicely placed but pushed too. Again beautiful voice, great tone and lots of potential .. You just still sound somewhat young. Yes your stamina should improve. I mean aside from the few covers I posted, I am not planning to post much else lol vocal coaches in Korea sometimes can’t support either.

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      1. Ok, thanks! I didn’t expect such a fast reply. Should I use less chest to stop pushing? And more chest to not be so airy (which I think is what happens whenever I’m not singing loudly)?

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      2. Your problem isn’t chestiness, it’s pushing of air and excessiveness of volume with an improper mixing technique that’s not developed to sing without yelling when singing louder. The airiness isn’t too bad, it’s not to the point of lack of support although it could be improved. I think it’s more stylistic than anything.

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      3. I….Wait. WAIT. You were a girl? Omg. I thought you were like a young boy.. omg. I’m……messed up. I need a moment to recollect myself. You’re a girl then right? But you’re 15? Honestly, I would want to listen to you singing more to be sure of your voice type and wait for you to age a bit more.

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      4. OMG!!! I’m laughing. Yes, I’m a girl, almost 16. At first, I thought I sounded androgynous so I had my friend listen to my EXO Growl cover. She didn’t know it was me singing and she thought it was a girl, so I thought you would, too O_O
        I was also really surprised when you said I sounded “young” because my mom’s always said that my voice is really thick and I’ve always thought I was just a mature sounding mezzo. And I was surprised when you didn’t mention my lower register as one of my strengths lol
        Anyways, I definitely was not expecting you to think I was a guy but it’s really funny that you did😀
        Now I wonder if people on the phone know what gender I am O.O

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      5. Actually it’s kind of an on and off thing and we have concluded that we’d need to hear your true tone throughout your range, so I’d need to hear you mixing above A4 to be able to tell your voice type honestly. Could you sing Soprano songs in the original key? Like Taeyeon songs, “And One” or “Lost In Love”?

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      6. I may or may not have noticeable phlegm in my throat because I ate before this, but I don’t feel like struggling through this song again.
        I actually can’t sing Lost In Love. Because I can’t mix C5 at all ;-; Or B4. And barely b flat. My vocal cords are weak sauce
        And I’m basically shouting the whole chorus
        ~sorry~ :C

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      7. Okay so we all listened to you singing and we concluded you sound like an underdeveloped Soprano who tends to sing like a tenor, so when you sing male songs you emulate their singing but when singing this you sounded a lot more feminine, simply an underdeveloped soprano it seems.

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  20. I almost thought that you were going to say I was a contralto or a mezzo at first, but listening back that actually makes no sense xD
    “An underdeveloped Soprano who tends to sing like a tenor” lol that’s so weird. Why do I do that
    But I’m surprised that I was actually kind of convincing
    This is actually a great incentive to work on my mix…next time I sing I’ll just be like, “I’m a soprano goddamnit I can do this.”
    This also makes me realize – mezzos are a rare breed. If I think back to the choir I used to be in, probably ALL of the girls were sopranos.
    Anyways, thanks for the help guys!

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  21. Oolá Ahmin,tenho algumas dúvidas sobre um cover q fiz(eu cantei as partes da Fany)Meu coreano é ruim então deve ter prejudicado mas ok.
    http://www.smule.com/p/617922130_387039182
    1-ignore meu lower range(tottally unsuported lol) a parte 1:00 era chest? Achei que ficou diferente.
    2-Ficou muito nasal?
    3-As vezes quando canto parece que faço uma voz tipo “ovo na boca” seria alguma tensão ?(como em 3:44~3:46mais ou menos)
    Ia pedir pra analisar no geral, mas como ainda não tenho muita técnica,deve ser “Bad”.Thaaanks

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    1. A nossa eu nunca te ouvir cantar antes, essa é a primeira vez que você posta um áudio seu. Esse cara que cantou com você me assustou quando ele começou a cantar, a voz dele é meio grave e ele começou meio alto de repente. lol 1:00 Você parece ser um barítono e cê cantou um C4, então para você C4 já é voz mista, você canta mais suavemente com mais ar nessas partes então isso deve ter sido a razão porque você achou que ficou diferente. Sim tem bastante nasalidade, o que deve ter a ver com problemas de dicção e maus hábitos na fala. 3:44 eu ouço mais tensão na língua e um pouco de tensão na soft palate, mas você cantou mais aberto e com menos nasalidade nessa parte, o que mais ou menos é uma direção um pouco melhor para você seguir.

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      1. Siiim,realmente tenho muitos problemas de dicção,praticamente 99% quando falo é nasal lol(já marquei um fono para melhorar isso). Barítono T.T sempre quando assistia vídeos pra tenores eu sentia que não era meu lugar sla acho q é por isso então aushaushau.Obrigado pela análise o/

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    1. As in the lowest note ever hit by a female? A few sopranos have gone down to the second octave, some mezzos too. Ann One hit Bb2, Kim Boa hit A2, Dana and Gain hit B2.

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  22. I have discover this page recently and spent a whole night just reading all your posts, really love those posts. Anw do you know any blog similar to yours and Could you tell me what you think about my singing here? sorry if it makes you annoyed :))

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    1. I mean I know of blogs similar to ours in terms of K-pop but I wouldn’t recommend any other blog if you’re looking for professional advice aside from singwise.com. You have a very nice voice! You have good pitch, you project well but you put TOO much tension in your neck and jaw, make sure you take deep breaths into your diaphragm. Don’t push your voice out of your throat, don’t raise your neck when you sing, don’t push your neck and jaw forward. Just keep your head at a lower position, relax and focus on allowing your jaw to drop, instead of making it tight. You’re squeezing your voice out too much.

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    1. Talent? It’s hard to say, many companies have great composers, singer-songwriters, performers, dancers, vocalists and musicians. I believe SM has the best vocal training and thus the strongest vocalists come from SM. (They tend to pick people with a reasonably high vocal skill already too.) As for other aspects of talent in music, it’s not my place to judge.

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  23. Hi, wondering how you are able to tell somebody’s voice type? Like difference between baritone and tenor. I feel like in some videos you watch and write about you can tell their type without even hearing the entirety of their voice range.

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    1. The same way I can tell if someone supports or not, by having a trained ear. It’s hard to pinpoint exactly how to tell a tenor and a baritone apart if you’re not used to hearing tenors and baritones. It’s quite easy for me because I’m a baritone so I just hear in what range they’re mixing, if they sound like they’re already mixing on D4 or earlier, they’re most likely a baritone. If they sound like E4 and F4 are almost like speaking range-easy then they’re probably a tenor. Also the weight and tone of the voice, the thicker the voice, the more likely a baritone they are and the lighter and higher, the more likely they’re a tenor.

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    1. Belting is neither good nor bad, it’s just what it is. Belting is a chest dominant mixed voice, it’s just what people refer to as the louder higher notes people hit that sound heavier because they carry more chest than head voice in the mix. It’s not good to have too much chest in your mix, as it is better to allow the head voice to take over as you get higher and lighter, so that you don’t push too much and don’t stress your vocal cords. Belting is almost always a synonym to mixed voice, but the meaning is really a chest dominant mixed voice.

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  24. Hi, I have a question regarding my supported range and whether or not I can expand my range.

    From what I can tell, my voice most closely resembles a Light Lyric Tenor, and my overall range is from E2 to C6. My tessitura is rather high, and anything from E2-G2 isn’t very comfortable for me to sing since I can’t hit them without lowering my larynx. Same with anything above G#5. Would this mean my supported range is from G2 – G#5?

    Additionally, I have a really small range when excluding my head voice – about E2 – G#4 (that’s as high as I can belt). It actually rather resembles a female’s range, except lowered an octave. Thus, whenever I sing songs from male singers such as Kyuhyun, I have a hard time since he so often goes into the upper 4th octave and the 5th octave (with ease I might add, which is troublesome for me since my belting becomes shrill above E4). Do you think it’s possible for me to expand my chest range into the fifth octave? It doesn’t seem possible; I feel like it’s equivalent to asking Taeyeon to belt into the 6th octave. However, I was wondering if I could hit those notes if I made a more “headier” mix since a lot of my belts are more chest-dominant.

    Thank you!

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    1. That would not mean your supported range is G2 to G#5, because “comfortable” or less struggle doesn’t mean supported necessarily. It’s definitely possible to mix higher but the issues as to why you can’t right now would have to be looked into. I would have to hear you to know why you can’t mix higher or where your support ends, dear.

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      1. Uhhh okay I don’t often record myself but I didn’t realize I was so airy LOL. I never took any vocal classes or music theory or anything so everything I said earlier was kind of based on assumptions from reading a lot of blogs online like yours. Anyways uh my Korean pronunciation is literally super American so I decided to sing an English song instead. “Listen” definitely wasn’t the best song for me (I’m VERY aware of that) but I chose it because it was prolly the song that both showcased the biggest range (excluding head voice) and the technical difficulties that I’m most worried about. I know the second half is really hard to listen to, I’m sry LOL. Excuse my mistakes (and the wordiness of this comment) btw ahaha. Oh and I’m 17 and a half years old.

        I hope embedding works:/ but uh I posted the other one of Listen which I think showcased my technical concerns a lot more than this, but is it okay if you also let me know what you think of my singing as well? I lowered the key a little bc Kyuhyun sings too high (and low) for me, but I’d like to change that haha. Like I said my Korean pronunciation is very American LOL sry

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      2. I made your two comments into one comment. I’ll be brief because I wanna write two analyses within the next 4 hours and that could work …if I focus. LOL Okay so …..first of all, you have a lovely voice. I kind of stopped listening, not because I wasn’t enjoying it but just because I gotta go do stuff. From what I’ve heard yeah around G2 you sound fine, you have nice tone and you have support in your voice when you sing softly, like honestly from also the Kyuhyun song, I heard support on C4’s, and they sound okay. They were more evenly mixed but above that you would push your voice with your throat a lot and there’s too much chest in your mix now the problem here that I hear is…not just the throatiness or the lack of support or the fact that you have braces that make you become less opened and block your mouth to an extent… the problem…is…who told you’re a tenor? You sound like a baritone to me. Which explains why your lower range is so comfortable and why your mix goes only up to G#4.

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      3. Ahh I see, that makes sense! Please take your time, haha (: It takes a lot to run a site like this and on behalf of literally EVERYONE who visits this site, thank you & the entire team (and also srsly for replying so fast)! Not only does this sight provide deeper insight into our favorite idols, it actually educates us on many levels LOL. Anyways, I know that vocal fachs are more than just range, but from what I could tell, a lot of websites stated that tenors can sing comfortably up to around G5. My head voice could comfortably go up to G#5, so I assumed I was a tenor LOL. Plus, I generally sing in the fourth octave and haven’t really ventured into the lower register until recently.

        I have both a crooked jaw and a severe underbite (hence my lisp.. although I’m not quite sure if it’s obvious since I’m used to hearing my own voice). I know you said that braces hinders me to an extent, but could these factors also be part of it?

        Additionally, do you think it’s possible for me to further develop my range? I both want to develop my lower range and expand my mixed range. Of course, my mix above C4 like you said is throaty and chesty, but do you think I can expand my range higher if I make it more heady (and of course healthier)?

        FINALLY (sry if this is really annoying), what do you think I should work on? I really want a healthy mix, and based on what I’ve heard, it seems like I should work on breath support and eliminating throatiness.

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      4. No of course wearing the braces probably means there are other things that could be bettered in your jaw shape and whatnot. So those things are definitely factors and once you’re done with the braces, you’ll feel much better. Mhmm G5 in head voice or not does not make you a tenor, actually head voice is a lot worse of a factor to determine voice type than you’d think. Of course you can expand your range, it’s about the development of your instrument of course. ^ ^ Yes you’re completely right on what you have to work on, I’d have to show you how to fix it though. It’d be hard to type it out.

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      5. Got it, thank you so much for the advice!! ^^ I’ll do my best to improve. By the way, do you have any plans on continuing the “Vocal Techniques” series on this blog? Part 1 and your videos really have helped my singing!

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      6. Well the vocal tips videos yes but the vocal techniques, I’m not really sure yet. I apologize for that.

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      7. Hi again. Sorry for bothering you again lol, but I’ve been working on my breath support and my mixing these past 2 days (on this song in particular bc I love Kyuhyun). I watched your vocal tip videos and of course two days isn’t enough for me to improve a whole lot, but am I kinda sorta heading in the right direction? Honestly I’m not even sure if I’m mixing correctly but I think singing this way does feel a little more effortless. it would be cool if you could give me some feedback. Pardon the sunscreen LOL

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      8. Of course, it’s okay to hold your microphone sunscreen. lol Your verses sound really nice, very soft, very controlled. The support is very relaxed and connected, your vibrato is nice. You sound very much in control during the verses. 1:30 that Eb4 was very relaxed, that is definitely the right direction. 1:40 a bit flat, the run was nice though. Make sure you know that relaxed and power can co-exist. 2:07 this D4 is MUCH better than the other ones in your other recordings, a lot more in control. A lot less just throwing it out there and hoping for a miracle. Don’t worry about some of the cracks towards the end. The F4’s too, that’s slightly high anyway so it’s fine, you sound really lovely. Your voice is very nice, and you singing like this helps highlight the beauty of your tone. ^ ^

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      9. Hi Ahmin! It’s me again. I have a question regarding mixing & tension. You say that mixing can be achieved if you bring down your head voice and bring up your chest voice and blend the two together, right? I think it’s the blending part where I have issues. Like… okay so let’s say I’m singing an F4 right? If I want it chesty, it usually comes out 70% chest 30% head. If I want it heady, I usually comes out 20% chest 80% head. I can’t seem to get it even close to 50/50. So like if I were to slide back and forth between chest-dominance and head-dominance, I would sound like a prepubescent teenager LOL I know I’m supposed to take it semi-tone by semi-tone (I’m doing the exercises in your Vocal Tips #4 video), and I think I can pretty much slide back & forth between chest & head dominance around E4 now, but I can’t seem to go any higher (it’s been like 5 days since I’ve been trying on my Fb4 :/) Can you give me any recommendations on what I should do to achieve a more balanced mix? Or is it just because the higher the notes are, the more time it takes to eliminate the bridge?

        Additionally, as I ascend in my belting (anything above D4), I begin to feel accumulated tension. I don’t think it’s entirely in the jaw, but more so around like… I guess the soft palette area? When I do become aware of it, I relax and try to let go of all that pressure, but then my note kinda just disappears & collapses into air. It’s almost as if the tension is what was sustaining the note. Clearly, this is bad, but is it just due to poor mixing or lack of breath support or something?

        Thanks again!! (:

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      10. Well you see Allan, you’re a baritone and we have two passaggi, the first one being B3 and the second one being E4. That would explain why you’re having more issues above E4, because that’s a different area of your voice so the way you approach the notes from B3 ~ Eb4 is different from how you’d approach E4 onward. Also this is a muscle that takes time, you don’t go to the gym and lift 500 pounds by going there everyday for a week, you go there everyday for like months. You have to respect your body and your muscles. Otherwise, it’s kind of hard for me to fully describe to you how to manage your mixing without showing you really. So just keep practicing and be patient with your voice. Well when you rely too much on tension, letting go of it makes you rely on your vocal cords and if they’re not strong enough yet, you might not be able to sing as well so you have to give your vocal cords time to get stronger on their own without the tension to force them. ^ ^

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      11. I totally meant F4* not Fb4. It looked so weird to me at first, idk why it didn’t register immediately LOL oops

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      12. Hi Ahmin! First of all, in light of recent events, I want to reiterate that I along with everyone else on this blog are incredibly appreciative of the work you and all the analysts put not only in this blog. It has been extremely educational and informative and NOTHING will change how much it has done for us and what it will continue to do for us. Keep up the amazing work, I’m looking forward to a lot of future analyses!

        So while I’ve been working on my mixed register, I’ve also been working on my lower register, although I seem to lower my larynx below A2. Can you give me some feedback? I changed the key since I can’t belt out Bb4s. Sorry, the E4 at the end (and my overall Korean) wasn’t cute LOL, I could normally hit it relaxed & unstrained but my vocal stamina was like nope not today -___-

        Thanks!!

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      13. Hi honey! I am so touched by the support we’ve gotten, it’s really motivating and I am so thankful for your kind words! We will not stop!

        Oh I am glad to hear you’re aware that you lower your larynx below A2, cause I was going to mention that you’re trying too hard to project your lower range around those G2’s, try to ease into them. They should be placed a lot more in your mouth than down low in your chest and throat. Sing them like they’re higher notes, don’t psyche yourself out into thinking they’re the bottom of your range. Careful with pitch, you went off at 0:27 ~ 0:30, but the rest was fine. This is a beautiful song and this key that you chose is relatively comfortable for us baritones. Park Hyoshin’s key is Eb3 ~ C5 (quick phrased C#5), but Kyuhyun made it C#3 ~ Bb4 (phrased B4), which is a more reasonable range for a tenor. When I sing it, I sing the baritone version of Kyuhyun’s key, so I sing A2 ~ F#4 (phrased G4). You sang a bit lower than I would but it’s not bad! The problem that I’m hearing is also enunciation, you tend to become nasal because of the language and the lack of enunciating clearly with a more dropped jaw. 2:46 ~ 2:49 was off key when you changed the key of the song, but the G#4 was the right note at 2:49 so you got into the right key eventually, just the key change part was off so watch out for it. Try not to move your head upward when singing, okay? 3:51 Take a breath in between the notes, it’s too hard to sing this in one breath. Also don’t place your voice in your throat, breathe, think deep in your back muscles and allow your throat to open up. Practice this a bit more since this song has 2 key changes, so you have to remember every single key well and you tend to kind of sound slightly unsure with every key change. Not too bad though, some nice moments! It is a very hard song, so don’t give up! I’d rather you sing something easier but in this key, it should be manageable.

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      14. Hi Ahmin! It’s me… again LOL sorry if I’m being annoying:/ Thank you so much for your feedback last time, it really helped! So I tried really hard and took your advice on Wild Flower into consideration, and I’m not sure if it’s possible for there to be any significant changes in such a short amount of time, but let’s hope a week or so worth of practice at least did something LOL. Tbh my lower notes sound the same, but the way I achieve them feel a LOT more relaxed after you told me to treat them as any high note. && I’m primarily using this key for Wild Flower bc there was conveniently an instrumental (you can hear it slightly) uploaded on Youtube. I also revisited singing A Million Pieces recently and I discovered that I now sound different when singing it compared to how I sounded when I sang it in the first and second take that I sent u before. Can you give me some feedback on my singing? I understand that 2 videos is a lot for you to check out so please take your time or just listen to however much you want/have time for! Oh, and I got my braces off! My jaw is still crooked but that can only be fixed through surgery so:/ Finally, I know you told me to try this last time, but I think my biggest problem is that I can’t sing w/ an open throat, especially in my higher notes (fourth octave & up). I think I achieve resonance at times on a few of my lower notes (around A3?), but I actually have no idea how resonance feels like LOL. What can I do to fix this? Thanks so much!! ^^

        A Million Pieces (3rd Take):

        Wild Flower (2nd Take):

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      15. Are you tired during Million Pieces? You tend to go airier than you used to before and you sound a bit shaky in some parts, I notice that you’re struggling with phlegm. 1:22 flat, you didn’t go high enough. 1:34 ish too. The other parts were better pitch wise, I like the softly mixed C4’s in the choruses. 2:00 I wish the quality of your mic was better, that was too loud and close to the mic so it’s hard to tell the quality of the note. It didn’t seem too bad. There were just moments when you used a chestier mix where you either sounded off key or kind of throaty. You got more comfortable as you went on and on the softer parts you sounded really nice and relaxed, it’s just sometimes the airiness was a bit too much and you lacked projection. Mhmm you support on C4 and below but resonance is something that takes time to understand, being loud and producing resonance..those are very different things. It’s hard to explain without showing you, but just think of resonance as a spectrum in which you’re relaxed and projecting properly, without attempting to project, you just let things fall into place in a relaxed manner, you drop your jaw, put the sound more towards your face and it just projects, floating out of you naturally. That’s more of what resonance feels like, trying hard to be loud and pushing the sound out, that’s just pushing.

        0:19 off key for Wildflower. It sounded like it could’ve been a better melodic change, but it didn’t work out too well. I like your Bb2’s and above actually, you sound relaxed and you’re projecting well. 1:02 not a bad idea, now own that run. Embrace it, be confident with it. 1:19 nice dynamics, very soft. It sounded pretty to me, subjectively speaking. The lower notes are much better than list time, just like you said. 2:37 flat like last time, you didn’t manage to come in right in the key. You were supposed to sing Gs but you sang F#s. 3:43 good! you took a breath, which helped you handle the note better. 3:49 you went too low, this is not the right note. It should’ve been higher. Relax your neck and shoulders when singing these higher parts, really feel like your voice is coming down from your gut, from your belly, not from the top of your body, but from your core. For your Korean, Eu and Oo are not the same vowel. Work on differentiating the sound for 으 and 우, because you sing them like they’re the same. Allow brightness in your tone, being powerful doesn’t require that much effort from your throat just so that you can be chestier. You’re associating chestiness with pressure from your throat, you don’t need that.

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      16. Hi Ahmin, I just really wanted to thank you for pointing out where my strengths lie and where I can improve! I genuinely appreciate it and I’m sure that by now I’ve come off as quite excessive. You’ve helped me so much and I cannot be more thankful, especially because singing is something I am truly truly passionate about. I’ve also read almost every single analysis on this blog (I literally read this as a hobby now LOL) and I CANNOT wait for more to come (especially excited for the veterans’ analyses)! I just really wanted to point that out there so that you don’t have the impression that I’m taking your words for granted (:

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      17. Hi Matheus! Sorry it’s only been a week LOL, can you give me feedback on Wild Flower again (working on the lighter mixed E4 but I think it’s better than before?) and this time my head voice? I realized I hardly showcased my falsetto/HV at all so i just decided to do an arpeggio LOL. Can you tell me my supported range w/ and w/o head voice? Thanks (: I think my supported range without head voice is like C3 to C4 but I’m not totally sure. With head voice maybe C3 to… B4? Is it even possible to support head voice when it’s still underdeveloped? Thanks ^^ Oh && btw extra excited about Lee Hyun, K. Will, and Wendy’s analysesssssssss!!

        Wild Flower:

        HV/Falsetto:

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      18. I honestly find the verse of Wildflower to be very challenging on its own because it’s very low throughout so when Park Hyoshin does it, it’s not low for him so he can kind of get away with it but you’re doing it in such a low key that your sound gets a bit swallowed and it needs to project more clearly. Don’t be so chesty in your lower range, it’s perfectly fine to use mask placement even on your lowest notes in order to project them better.

        0:28 You’re still going off key in this part because the verse is way too low for you so you struggle to stay in the key center of the song, so make sure you find a key that’s comfortable. That part is supposed to be D4 and you’re going up to F4 or in between E4 and F4. 0:30 I wouldn’t take a breath there either if you can. You’re pushing your larynx down slightly on the low notes. 0:49 this one is correct, you’re getting the melody wrong in the other part. 1:09 you took a breath two seconds before that, you didn’t need a breath there. It broke the flow more than it was needed. The chorus sounded really nice, relaxed, well placed. Make sure when you sing 던 that you drop your jaw more and allow your voice to project. 2:46 yes get that key change! Good job, you fixed the problem in this part. 2:58 could be a bit more opened in this chorus, make sure to feel the throat open more and to drop your jaw more in these parts. 3:21 flat in this part. 3:36 ~ 3:41 you were too sharp so you were singing too high. 3:51 there’s already too much throat going on for that one note. I would rather you teach yourself to sing this with a much lighter approach and almost no volume if you can, instead of going for power. I want you to learn to mix properly before being powerful, so focus on that. This is definitely a lot better than before, you sound more relaxed and you’re just all around using much better support and placement. Good job dear! I shall not give you a supported range because you’re not a trained vocalist and you’re not my proper student, so unless I teach you and sit down with you with a piano to give you pointers, I don’t feel comfortable giving you a supported range.

        I am excited about Lee Hyun, K.Will and Wendy too. lol 0:13 that’s where the falsetto came in, the rest was kind of in between head voice and falsetto. Using Oo will give you better placement overall so it will make it sound more like head voice even if it my lack support and development. I think it’s still inconsistent, your usage of head voice vs falsetto.

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    2. Hi Ahmin! I’m not sure if it’s just me, but I can’t see the replies for the comments on this page😮 Not sure if that was intentional or not, but just wanted to point that out there! (is it because of me LOL, if so I’m really sorry DD: please let me know on here or on Twitter)

      Sorry to bother u again. I decided to sing a diff song this time (and this time in English) bc I’m still working on Wild Flower haha (it’s taking forever but I think I might be getting better..? The E4 at the end still gets me tho). Can you please give me feedback? Can you let me know when I’m raising my larynx and when I’m supporting my notes so I can get a sense of what they feel like? For example at 1:37 when I hit the G4, I’m aware I have a lot of tension and my throat is closed (still working on it .___.), but I’m not sure if my larynx is raised. I think there were some intonation issues too… Majority of the riffs and runs were improvised so they were prolly messy and not on pitch or well-separated.

      I also have a question regarding falsetto & head voice. I understand that the difference between the two is that one is disconnected while the other is connected. Is there such thing as an in-between? Because while my falsettos at the end were mostly airy, I did feel as if some points within the falsetto were more connected than others. What would you call that? A disconnected head voice?

      Another question about MY falsettos in particular at the end. I felt my tongue going to the back of my throat as I hit them, and when I tried to relax my tongue, I felt as if there was more jaw tension, otherwise I rely on the throat for some weird reason.

      Something similar happens when I sing the E4 in Wild Flower too. I normally hit the note with a lot of tension, so I took your advice last time and tried my best to relax and hit the note. For the past month, I’ve been consciously trying to 1) keep my soft palette lifted, 2) keep my throat open, 3) support w/ my diaphragm, and 4) stay relaxed, but the note hurts my throat anyway (either that or it comes out as purely head voice). Would you say it’s because I have underdeveloped thyroarytenoid muscles?

      Fun fact: Before I discovered you, Hwanhee, Chiyeol (whom I thought was a Full-Lyric Tenor at first but was terribly wrong), and some other baritones, I didn’t think it was possible for baritones to sing a G4 without it sounding like the absolute limit of their mixed range. I mean, it does still sound like that for me, but…. I’m working on it LOL. Thanks so so so much for inspiring me ^^

      I think that’s it. Sorry for the abundance of questions… please take your time! I understand you’re really busy. I’m looking forward to future analyses!! ^^

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      1. The replies have been gone for a few days, it seems to be a bug but it’s been reportedly fixed. It was probably something to do with the theme of the blog, so let me know if you can see them again. Okay if you’re aware of the issues with pitch because of the runs, I won’t say too much about them. I’ll just point them out if they’re imprecise. A head voice can be somewhat airy, lack development and lack support. A falsetto is completely disconnected and unsupported, but a head voice can be unsupported to an extent due to lack of development. The muscles might still be figuring themselves out, so I guess you could say that’s “in between” as in the process of transitioning and developing. I’ll see what I hear.

        I think what you need is to develop your cricothyroid muscles in your mix and make sure you learn to mix up to E4/F4 lightly and then add power to it, so if you’re mixing lightly you are pushing less chest which allows you to be more relaxed. So do develop a lighter mix and don’t worry about it for now, power will come later.

        Well see G4 is kind of a limit for me in songs, I can phrase it now without many issues but above that things do get hard. My mix was always my weakest area so mixing is hard for me. I can mix G#4’s pretty consistently in songs now, but they’re not good haha But thanks, I’m glad to be able to make you feel like you can better yourself! ^ ^

        I don’t really know this song, but I like your rhythm. You are doing pretty well with flow. It’s good to be slightly bouncy. I think you’re listening to the song as you’re singing, right? In your earphones? Try to learn not to do that because it can make it hard for you to sing loudly. 1:04 nice trill, it was well done rhythmically. It’s also hard for you to emulate what Ariana does, if she switches to falsetto, it’s too low for a baritone voice to falsetto from mix, so don’t get TOO used to it because it isn’t the best thing for your voice. Although you’re doing it pretty well, considering how low it is. 2:13 not bad pitch! I hear the tongue tension in the falsetto at the end, it’s more leaning towards head voice because you’re using the oo vowel, which helps you place the sound more in the head and focus the muscles better to create a head voice. It’s not fully developed yet, but it’s leaning more towards head voice now. 1:37 yes I would say the larynx is high. You have a very nice rhythmic bounce when you sing btw, I’m very pleased with that. 1:59 slightly flat. Try not to imitate Ariana’s diction on vowels, like 2:02 2:04 patience and pace, the aye’s should be more opened and you could allow them to be.

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      2. Hi Mattheus, it’s been a while haha. Can you let me know how I did here? I feel like I always choose the hardest songs to sing LOL. I think I have a little bit more support on A2s and C4s now. I’ve been trying to lighten my mix a bit too (still get super throaty. Is there improvement from last time? Thanks again (:

        At the time of sending this comment Ali’s analysis has not been posted yet but I am super excited for it! My prediction is 5 or higher (: Lowkey glad I can finally find out what vocal fach she is because I’m notorious for being wrong LOL. I thought she was a mezzo since her lower register is so strong and I rarely see her belting above E5, but I don’t trust myself LOL. Anyways yeah super excited for more analyses! ^^

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      3. This song is difficult because of the amount of time it takes for you to breath and it is a very demanding song in the way Mariah sings it, she barely takes breaths because she controls her breaths very well so you have to watch how you breathe so you don’t run out of air too quickly. 1:41 see taking too many breaths and you went off key, there and at 1:51, as well as at 1:02. Careful with the low notes, place them a bit higher in your mask and don’t drop your voice too low into your chest and throat. Your mix is a bit too airy, you are aspirating throughout. 2:28 you are adding some odd blue notes here and there on some of these runs, careful with these. You’re making a lot of notes flat and it’s a consistent thing throughout. You are definitely light but just don’t let light become airy, okay? 5 or higher? Wow I suppose she was overrated, I never thought of her that way because I didn’t know people had such high expectations for her. She’s been posted! lol

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  25. OOI,Essa garota que está cantando é a Sungyeon e ela é uma das main vocal do Pledis Girlz.Ela foi bem nessa performance? 0:14~0:16 achei estranho.

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    1. Ela tem um falsetto bem agudo, ela já tá indo até F6 nessa performance mas ela não sabe usar o apoio certo e ela fica com esse falsetto meio espremido. Eu acho que ela tem potencial.

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  26. Hey. I’m gonna ask you something. I know it’s not actually associated with this article but I really want to know what do you think about this. What things do the singing teachers teach the trainees? For an example: what things do the trainees learn in BigHit? I mean like do they learn how to belt, how to develop mixed voice, increasing singing range, etc.?

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    1. See… I wish I could answer this question but I don’t know for sure. I’ve met very few vocal trainers from Korea and most of them focus on high belting, regardless of how you do it. A lot of them yell in order to belt high, but I don’t know specific how each company teaches singing. The one thing I know is JYP focuses on the breathy technique for style and that SM teaches Speech Level Singing but that’s all I know really, I don’t know what they’re taught because it feels like many times they’re not taught much actually in some companies, which is not always their fault.

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    1. Tem outra pessoa que me perguntou sobre essa performance no Twitter então para eu poder copiar e colar para ele, eu vou responder em inglês para você. Obrigado por entender.

      0:11 F#3 0:20 quick F#4, so the range so far is F#3 ~ F#4, which is comfortable for Taeil. He’s supporting throughout, he sounds a bit airy but in control of his voice and the support is adequate. 0:25 aye vowel, the vibrato is a bit unsteady and the aye vowels brings a bit of tension to his throat. 0:40 he went up to G4 there, there’s a bit of tension, very subtle. He sounds alright, he has a very light approach to his singing, he doesn’t push a lot of chest so he doesn’t really sound throaty or anything. There’s just slight tightness. 0:45 There he has throat tension, he’s pushing with too much pressure and his larynx sounds high. 1:03 another A4, same issue as before. 1:18 he just sounds tight as he gets up to A4. Aye vowel still seems to be a bit tense for him as well. 1:36 that G4 was nice actually. 1:45 compressed throat on the A4. Overall his pitch was nice, he has a very nice, light voice. It helps him.

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  27. I’m sooo happy that you guys now recognized Miss Mariah Carey as a Lyric COLORATURA Soprano. Before you can’t called her as a Coloratura it’s because she’s not an opera singer. Anyway i know this is off topic but when in her prime she showed her being a Lyric soprano? In her 1st album her voice was teenage-y sound and her sophomore album her voice was changed sooo much! I mean her voice in Emotions album was soooo heavy (try to listen The Wind, You’re So Cold & Make It Happen studio version). But after that she started to light to become a girly voice especially in Daydream album. I think her best album vocally was her Merry Christmas album. It mixed with light & heavy voice like for example her redention of O Holy Night the studio 1994 version. Damn!🙂

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  28. So i saw that you put Mitch Grassi as a countertenor but left N/A in the bass…is Avi Kaplan not a bass? (just curious, not attacking at all!❤ )

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  29. Leggiero Tenor in male singers is similar to Coloratura sorano in female singers? If not, how do we call the vocal type that allows the male singer to have more ease in vocal runs?

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      1. If a male singer usually conducts a lot of complicated vocal runs on his songs but the vocal runs’ quality is not really good, can I call him a Leggiero Tenor?

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  30. Hi😀
    Do you have time to take a listen to some of my singing? Here’s the link: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP6Ejqzu3_yLa8czs3WdJ1k8t2zi9oBQB
    I’m wondering how my G4’s are now because last time you said I was okay up to F#4. I feel comfortable from E3-F#4~C#5/D5 and I’m pretty sure I have head voice, but I start pushing pretty low and I’m not sure if it’s supported. I find it hard to tell if I’m raising or lowering my larynx. Am I pushing it down when I sing low? Is it better for me to sing in a lighter mix (like in the second “Nothing” video)? Am I still pushing too much air?
    When I start singing, Eflat3 or E3 feels pretty comfortable, but then occasionally when I sing for around 40+minutes E3 can even get uncomfortable. Is it normal to be inconsistent like that? (I feel like I may have hit a wall with my lower range because my range only goes to D3 consistently -_- ). Is the way I’m singing now going to make me regress?
    Sorry, you don’t have to answer everything, I wrote a lot.
    Also it’s fine if you’re too busy to listen to anything; I’m already happy that this blog exists. You guys have done a lot of work!
    this is kind of embarrassing lol<

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    1. I’m not sure how I feel about your E3’s, I notice that you sound like you’re pushing your larynx down and placing your voice too low around that range, you sound like you don’t seem to be free enough nor free enough. Your head voice is there, but the stretch could be tighter and stronger, since the vocal cords seem slightly loose. Your transitions are nice though. This is from listening to I Miss You. It’s sort of normal since E3 is close to your bottom note, but your approach doesn’t seem opened enough to me. G3’s sound okay. 0:57 when you were singing I Have Nothing, you changed the key of the song in that portion, you lowered the key for the chorus. The way you mixed for both wasn’t bad, the lighter version was fine too but if you start practicing more with the lighter version, you might be able to expand your upper mixed range more and more since it might just open up the proper stretch for a higher mix. Especially since you were mixing A4’s and they didn’t sound like they were your limit nor like they were too difficult for you. Even more not your G4’s, your A4’s don’t sound bad. They sound like they’re getting there, they sound less pushed but you need to use a bit less airiness here and there, just to make sure you’re stretching properly.

      Don’t be embarrassed, you have a nice voice so I do enjoy listening to it! haha I think Mercy is too low for you in that key, you have nice trills here and there actually, although the notes from release were kind of messy. I think you could DEFINITELY sing it in a different key and not limit yourself to that key, remember you are not a tenor. lol You have to sing songs that open up the full extent of your range. If you feel like you’ve reached your limit for your lower range, which could be fixed if you didn’t push your larynx down, but you have a lot range to extend upward actually.

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      1. Thanks! That’s very helpful.
        Although, where did I mix A4’s? I don’t remember doing that so maybe my tuner’s wrong.
        I’m surprised that you said that my A4’s don’t sound bad because I can’t really sustain A4 without sounding or feeling pretty bad lol
        Maybe they were just nice because I phrased them somewhere? Idk
        Thank you ^^
        and btw your vmin fic was very cute.

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      2. Ok, thanks.
        (At first I thought V was really “solid” for a ghost because the thing keeping him so tied to Earth was some special bond with Jimin, but I think I like your ending more). :3

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  31. Hello😀
    If you have time, could you listen to this little clip of me singing? I’m not sure if I’m lowering my larynx still. Actually, it’s pretty low so I probably am but I really can’t tell

    Thank you!
    And also you’re like the prettiest sounding baritone I’ve ever heard :O

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    1. It doesn’t sound like you’re lowering your larynx at all throughout this, again not the best key nor range for this kind of chorus but I know you were showing me the low notes and I think this was the right way to approach your lower range, it’s relaxed. Awwww?????? Really???? Thank you so much omg, stahp it. lol

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