Debunking K-pop Vocal Myths #11: Alto is NOT a voice type!

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35 thoughts on “Debunking K-pop Vocal Myths #11: Alto is NOT a voice type!

  1. Thank you so much. I can’t handle the stupid that comes out of people’s mouths when I politely and tactfully try to correct them. A girl said she was an Alto in a school choir. I told her it’s a choir part and not her voice type. After the same explanation you gave, she said ”All I know is I was an Alto in choir.” Another dude said ”I’m a bass, I was a bass in choir.” And I said, you’re actually a baritone, and I explained the three types. And then he said he’s a bass.

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    1. well, what else can it be if she’s a woman? Her name is Galina Baranova btw. The song is called ”The song of desire” i think.

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  2. This video was very surprising for me. I, just like the girl mentioned before in comments, sing alto part in my choir and I don’t really believe that I’m a soprano who’s just afraid of high notes.
    Some time ago my friend, who’s a professional musician, mentioned to me as a fun fact, that in some countries alto isn’t even recognised as a voice type. I recalled this conversation while watching your video. I understand that in the US you don’t have alto as a voice type, but I’m quite sure that it’s classified as a voice type in Europe or at least in Poland, where I live.

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    1. I think you’re confusing alto with contralto and I’m sure the person you’re talking about was talking about contralto and shortening it as alto, that’s what 95% of people everywhere do. The problem is calling sopranos and mezzo by alto.

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  3. All of this being said: how do you feel about male sopranos, like a male that is not just capable of it, but they sound like a woman when they talk and they truly naturally developed with comfort in the soprano range just like a female. I know they are REALLY rare, but I have a friend like this named Tyler. He is being trained at my college as a male soprano. This is a video of him doing a duet last year: https://youtu.be/SLOxAvjDhsw
    P.s. According to literally all of my music professors, the most common female voice type is a mezzo. Why do you say it’s soprano? Just curious as to your reasoning.

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    1. I would have to hear what he sounds like singing in a register that’s not his head voice. So this alone doesn’t show me a soprano. Also what I’ve learned from my own instructors is that sopranos are the most common. Not only that, from experience I’ve met a lot less mezzo sopranos than sopranos in my life.

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  4. I know Jisoo is not a mezzo but I’ve noticed her voice seems to have a relatively darker color than Rosé,Lisa and even Jennie. I could be wrong but it doesn’t sound as “bright”. Do you hear this too Ahmin?
    *Also on a side note is Yuqi from (g)idle a mezzo? Or is she just a husky soprano? Like Tiffany?

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    1. I have been asked about someone from G-Idle before and I heard no mezzo, now it it were Yuqi or not I don’t recall. I’m not 100% sure Jisoo is not a mezzo actually.

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      1. It would be cool if she was.
        Also how is everything going for you? What’s it like living in South Korea?

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      2. It’s great for the most part, there are very few things I don’t like about living here. Thank you for asking.

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  5. No problem (^_^) Just hoping you’re in good health. You too Pandayeu and frostprincess21 if you’re there.
    Ahmin, I really hope you get to work with some big name singers/performers soon. I believe you would really make a positive change in the quality of their singing. It would be amazing if one of the big 3 hired you to train their idols. I would be happy with any company though. I’m rooting for you!
    (◍•ᴗ•◍)

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  6. I know I asked this question on the about criteria page but it’s been a while and it hasn’t been answered. But how do you find the passagi of a singer? In detail if possible. Anyone please? 🙂

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      1. Both please. I want to be able to find the passagi for any singer in the future if I have to. And for the individual case or two cases to be exact, I need to find the passagi of Tori Kelly and JoJo. I’m sorry for mentioning them as they’re not Korean vocalists but I got into a debate with my grandmother and she strongly believes that Tori Kelly is a Mezzo-Soprano and that JoJo is a Soprano. I told her it was the other way around but she’s not convinced and says I have to “prove” it.

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      2. Sorry about leaving duplicate questions. The way WordPress is set up nowadays is really strange for me. It will tell me I can’t post a question if it has similar words to another post yet at the same time it won’t notify me when and if my comments were successfully posted or not.

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  7. not admin here, but I am sure I can help. First of all, there isn’t (at least the way I see it) a “formula” for figuring out the passagio. For some singers, it can be really obvious, (for example yoo hwe sung from Nflying, whos transitions from mix to head is very drastic) whereas for some it isn’t (for example, park hyoshin, who has very clean transitions). After singing for a while, you do get a good sense of how a singer is producing the sound they are creating, and what it should “feel” like. For male singers, I can identify if they are starting to mix, because I know how to mix as well (not as good as them haha). Therefore, I can roughly estimate where their passagios may be placed. If you do not know how to produce the sounds that a singer is producing, then frankly, it will be really hard to distinguish where their passagio exactly lies, because you do not know what to look out for.

    It is important to clarify that the bridges of a singer is not one particular note. Notice how Ahmin mostly says that the bridge of a singer is “around” a certain note. This is because depending on the vowel, the phrasing before that note, the onset, etc. the way that a singer sings a particular note will not be completely consistent, or the same. (there was a long paragraph I deleted cause it was getting too boring, so it may not be totally clear what this means).

    Even if you are not able to distinguish the bridge of a singer that is fine, because the transition from chest to head should be like a gradient, where you cant exactly tell where one colour starts and ends.

    To summarize, if you do not know how to sing through passagios yourself, then it will be hard to train your ears to look out for them. Therefore, my advice would be to practice a lot, and learn to mix.

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    1. Thank you for responding! I would actually like if you went into more detail please I don’t mind long detailed paragraphs at all. I’ve been watching passagio videos for about a 1 year or 2 but I still didn’t quite understand how to find my passagio let alone another singer. I also posted a response to you about a week ago but it didn’t get posted for some reason.

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  8. Thank you for responding! I would actually like if you went into more detail please I don’t mind long detailed paragraphs at all. I’ve been watching passagio videos for about a 1 year or 2 but I still didn’t quite understand how to find my passagio let alone another singer. I also posted a response to you about a week ago but it didn’t get posted for some reason.

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