BTS’ Vocal Analysis: V

Vocal Range

Eb2 ~ D6 (3 octaves, 5 notes and 1 semitone)

Supported Range

C3 ~ C4/C#4

Voice Type

Baritone

Strengths/Achievements

  • Strongest vocalist in BTS
  • The strongest sense of breath support amongst all members of BTS
  • Able to remain most relaxed within his comfort range
  • Able to transition into his falsetto with relative ease
  • Mixed voice is light and lacks pushing, not trying to sing too high with too much throat tension
  • Able to remain relatively relaxed up to C#4 and at times even D4
  • Sense of pitch has improved since debut
  • Sufficient support is maintained down to C3 in his chest voice

Weaknesses

  • Tends to sing with too much airiness
  • Support is shallow and underdeveloped
  • Tends to lower his larynx too often when singing
  • Above C#4, he tends to sound harsh and flat
  • Tone production often becomes flat due to lack of forward placement
  • Lower range is relatively underdeveloped for a baritone
  • Unable to support his head voice
  • Falsetto is often too airy and lacks projection

Registers

  • Lower register: Due to the range in which BTS’ music is written in, he gets very few chances to showcase the true development of his lower range. Thus, his voice is relatively underdeveloped in his lower range for a baritone, where his tone production becomes muffled as he sings below C3.
  • Mixed register: His mixed voice is relatively light in terms of mixing, where he uses more head voice than chest voice when singing higher to minimize the amount of effort and strain on his vocal cords. Although able to sing above his first passaggio, his support is somewhat shallow and he tends to become tense above C#4.
  • Upper register: Able to transition into his falsetto with relatively ease, his overall tone production is airy throughout most of his voice but becomes fairly obvious as he sings in his falsetto. Able to produce a connected head voice even though support isn’t present.

Agility

Drawing less influences from R&B than many other idol vocalists in K-pop, V generally sings with an airy approach throughout his range and doesn’t often attempt singing vocal runs. The airiness in his voice makes it harder for him to be able to connect his vocal cords properly and control his pitch. This results in often sloppy runs when he does attempt them, in rare occasions. Perhaps aware that his voice isn’t necessarily very agile, as he lacks the correct muscle coordination to sing and bounce through different notes quickly, it is hard to find examples of V attempting vocal runs. The few times he’s done so, it’s possible to hear that he lacks clarity in tone and often sings runs by sliding through the notes quickly, without hitting each individual pitch precisely at the center of the note. This causes his runs to sound sloppy and pitchy overall, as heard in “Sorry“, “Little Star“, and “듣는편지.”

Overall analysis

V debuted as a member of the vocal line of BTS in 2013. Although not the main vocalist, the distribution of lines was even enough that he sang relatively often regardless of him being a lead vocalist or not. In most cases, idol groups favor vocalists with higher voices because most idol songs are written within quite high ranges, for males and females. Thus it is more common to see a main or lead vocalist of a group be a tenor or a soprano. In BTS’ case, V’s voice stands out because he is the only baritone singing with other three tenors in the group, although every rapper in BTS is also a baritone. His voice is thick in tone and slightly lower range, but still remaining relatively light in weight and sounding more like a lyric baritone than anything else. Although mostly written for a lower tenor range, BTS’ music is written within a relatively low enough range where V is able to sing alongside the tenors without too much stress on his vocal cords.

Considering most tenor songs generally are written above C3, V as a baritone gets very few chances to actually sing in a more baritone-like range most of the time. Thus his lower range below C3 is mostly underdeveloped and not very well explored, as he doesn’t sing that low very often. Down to C3, he has shown a clear enough consistency of tone production and projection, where both his vocal cords and his support work together to allow his chest voice to project with decent tonality. This can be heard in “안아줘“, “Oh Happy Day!” and “Someone Like You.” Below C3, however, he starts to lose connection and support, as his voice starts to become more muffled and breathier. This seems to be because his vocal cords aren’t developed enough as he sings lower, so his tone becomes less clear as he’s unable to project and place his voice in his chest as easily as above C3. This can be heard in with the Bb2’s in “If You“, A2’s in “안아줘“, G2’s in “Let Me Know” and the octave unison E2’s in “Someone Like You.”

His mixed voice is relatively well developed in terms of mixing and has enough support for him to be able to sing above his first passaggio, B3, without tensing up his throat too much. The range from C4 to D4 can be sung with some support as he’s able to remain relaxed and not sing only from his throat. This can be heard in “바람인가요“, “듣는편지” and “안아줘.” As he ascends above D4, he tends to use a very light mixed voice which is mostly head dominant, which allows him to push his voice with less tension than if he were to use a heavier and louder chest-dominant mixed voice. Nonetheless, the lack of support above D4 causes him to sound shallow and thin the higher he sings, as his voice becomes too light and oftentimes he can sound somewhat flat when singing above his comfort range. He tends to sing with a soft approach, but tension is still present in his throat as he’s unable to connect his breath support to his vocal cords in order to maintain his throat opened. This can be heard in the D4’s in “Something“, Eb4’s in “눈, 코, 입“, E4’s in “If I Ain’t Got You“, “Someone Like You“, F4’s in “I NEED U“, “If You“, “Butterfly“, F#4’s in “Let Me Know“, “Love is not Over“, G4’s in “Bang Bang Bang“, “안아줘” “눈, 코, 입“, “이사” and G#4’s in “잡아줘.”

His upper register mostly consists of a falsetto, with occasional moments where he’s shown the ability to use a head voice. Most of the time his vocal cords aren’t fully connected and he sings with excessive airiness, which causes him to sound thin and soft in his upper register, mostly associated with a falsetto voice. Although relaxed to an extent, a falsetto is not a register where true support can be present. Support would only be truly present if he were to use his head voice properly, however the few times V has shown a head voice have shown that he has issues with maintaining the connection of breath support with his vocal cords, where he instead pushes too much air against his vocal cords instead of allowing them to produce his head voice with their own strength and development. This results in a head voice that lacks control, by not being relaxed nor supported. This can be heard when contrasting his falsetto in “듣는편지“, “House of Cards“, “눈, 코, 입“, “Butterfly” and “Miss Right” with his head voice in “How Am I Supposed to Live Without You.” Interestingly enough he is the only member of the vocal line to be able to push his head voice all the way up to the sixth octave, higher than any of the tenors. This can be heard with the C6 in a high note battle during a fan meeting as well as the D6 in a more recent fanmeeting.

One of V’s main issues actually come from his tendency to push his larynx down when singing and not fully maintaining his vocal cords connected throughout his range. When your vocal cords aren’t fully connected, a lot of air can pass through causing the vocalist to sound breathy and soft. Stylistically this can work in many cases, but training yourself to only be able to sing that way can cause the vocalist to limit their vocal development. If the vocal cords don’t fully come together when singing, the vocalist will be unable to allow their vocal cords to become stronger and develop in terms of volume, range and muscle strength.

Adding onto this, V usually favors lowering his larynx and opening the back of his throat a lot more than necessary when singing even within a relatively high range. Most of the time, V’s voice can be perceived as quite deep but actually when a vocalist pushes their larynx down, it alters the natural tone of their voice and causes their voice to sound much deeper than it really is. This is often a stylistic approach used in soul music, that can be turned on and off at will. However for V it’s either this approach, airy and overly opened in the back of throat while not fully relaxed, or a harsh growly approach. Only having two options can be limiting to a vocalist if they’re unable to grasp breath support fully yet. Since V tends to push the sound of his voice in the back of his throat a lot, the direction of air from his voice isn’t properly placed in his nasal cavities, which makes it harder for him to understand mask placement and project his voice. As such, he tends to sound slightly flat in tone production the higher he sings due to lacking a good connection of proper breath support, an open throat and a forward mask placed sound.

When comparing V to the other vocalists of BTS, it is possible to hear that both he and Jungkook are the most relaxed out of all four of them. They have the least issues with tension and have a relatively decent range in which their voices are more or less supported, even though support may be shallow. However things can get tricky when comparing a tenor to a baritone, as being a baritone and having to sing in the same exact range as a tenor puts V at a clear disadvantage. Truthfully BTS’ music isn’t written for a high tenor range but it is still a challenging range for a baritone to be singing in. The passaggio is where the voice naturally lifts and the muscle coordination becomes slightly different, as sort of a bridge between a register and the next. The first passaggio is the transition from chest voice to mixed voice, while the second one is from mixed voice to head voice. A lyric tenor’s passaggi are usually around D4/Eb4 and G4/Ab4, while a lyric baritone’s passaggi are B3 and E4.

If V were to sing the same song as Jungkook for an example, but the key was changed to suit his voice as a baritone, he’d be able to handle singing above his first passaggio slightly better than Jungkook would. So the only true difference between them is that V has a slightly better grasp of breath support. However given the fact that V can’t simply change the key of every BTS song there is to suit his voice, he has to sing in the same exact range as the other three tenors. So naturally within the range that these songs are written in, Jungkook is the most qualified member to handle singing their repertoire. If V were to look into more solo singing opportunities, understanding his own voice type and embracing the true tone of his voice could help him develop his voice better as a baritone if he could sing in a range that’s natural to his voice. For future improvements, working on further developing connection between his vocal cords to be able to handle more dynamic changes, while developing his breath support could help V develop his vocal technique better overall. However for the time being, his current skill level is adequate for the type of music he sings.

Musicianship

V is not much of a risk taker when it comes to his vocals and singing. He tends to sing with one specific style and doesn’t deviate much from that specific sound. He tends to choose either a harsh growly sound or a soft airy sound, which remains the same throughout most of his vocal performances. He doesn’t often try to add his own melodic changes to songs and instead chooses to sing songs as they’re originally written. When given the chance however, he does like to add his own twist to his vocal cords and is able to blend his voice with others and even himself when adding layers of harmonies to his vocal performances. One example would be the added harmonies present in his studio cover of “Someone Like You”, where he sang the song in the key he felt was most comfortable for his voice, adding his own octave unisons and harmonies throughout.

Rating

Weak to Average Vocalist

Vocal Range Video(s)

video by: We Are D-town

Best Vocal Performance(s)

Analyzed by Ahmin (Kitsunemale)

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503 thoughts on “BTS’ Vocal Analysis: V

  1. ahmiiinnn!!!!!
    is this an example of support coming from the throat and not from the diaphragm? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0RLkcZLkhI —(13:32 and 15:19) can it be also said that it has “no support”?

    In the same video, are these 13:47, 13:48, 13:50, 15:34, 15:36 and 15:38 C5’s or B5s(or lower)? I think it has power in it and somehow supported?
    thank you so much!

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    1. Hi there! Actually those are more examples of a very closed vowel shape in his throat. A lot of singers tend to close their throats when singing high notes on an aye vowel and that’s what Jimin was doing, which is why the strain was more obvious. There is no support, that is true but that’s not just for those notes. He doesn’t really have much support at all whenever he sings throughout most of his range actually. Oh just to clarify, B5 is higher than C5. The note a semitone below C5 is B4. Those were Bb4’s, with just throat tension and no support.

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    1. I think they’re great together and individually they’re also very strong, all the guys produce resonance, have great runs, have head voices, have nice lower ranges too. They’re very complete vocalists. Kirstie is the who lacks the most but isn’t bad herself either.

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      1. ooh, i just saw this, and i was just wondering, if you have any guesses as to how they might be ranked? or at the very least, a minimum or a maximum as to how they might be?

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    1. This question has been addressed in the comment section already. It’s a mask placed head voice with a lot of air pressure, a lot tension and a lot of pushing.

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  2. Ahmin, I saw the video about Jimin (which is why I put this comment with a BTS analysis). I honestly share your sentiment. Based on my observations, Jimin could potentially think of himself as a vocalist whose high notes are only good in studio (Based on his attack on bangtan lives because he could never stay on pitch or even sustain a strained mix note). The sad part is the instruction he receives. It’s clear it’s not working because people with technique are always confident. People like you and me know our strengths and weaknesses and play our cards correctly. He honestly reminds of me sometimes. When I was younger, I couldn’t mix above Bb4, even though my support went up to G#4 and sometimes A4 back then. I would honestly be like him and say ”I sing my songs everyday, I do my thing, I do falsetto, I do lows, but why am I stuck here still?”. It’s still sad, you know?

    The worst part of it all is that it almost seemed like he was going to cry and the most heartbreaking thing was seeing him have a mentality of someone who wants to genuinely improve his voice, something that most kpop vocalists like Jungkook lack, and then see him completely helpless to do anything about improvement.

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  3. it really frustrating to hear a beautiful voice but have weak vocal technique. especially with V new song in the album, instead solidify his voice, he choose to go full on airy style. oh come on V you can do better than that. does anyone feel the same?

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    1. i feel this so much!!!!! ffff i was so disappointed — he finally has a solo song but still forces himself to sing like a tenor… and i actually love stigma as a track, love everything except that it would’ve been so much better in a lower range. i think he needs to realise that it’s not about forcing himself to reach the high notes & he needs to embrace his baritone voice because the music he produces will be so much better 😐

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      1. he wasn’t necessarily singing as a tenor per se, given that we’ve established that he has the widest vocal range among the vocal line. I love the song because I feel like he was really in his element there. His head voice seemed to have improved, but it’s very hard to judge since this is only a studio version, we can’t really gauge how well he’s improved (if he improved at all) unless he performs the song live. Just because he’s a baritone, doesn’t mean he can’t sing in his falsetto/head voice; however belting is a different story. I liked how he didn’t attempt to belt out notes in stigma- unlike in some of their songs wherein he’s forced to.

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      2. he might have the widest range but he’s a baritone. it’s still more comfortable for him to sing in a lower range. if you read the JK analysis, ahmin says that jeongguk is best suited to be BTS’ main vocalist despite having lower vocal ability because their songs are written for a tenor range. and stigma was pretty much written in that same range.

        i love taehyung and he’s my fave, but stigma disappoints me because i know it would’ve been a better and stronger song if it was in a lower key. i hate to say it but when i listen to stigma, to me, it sounds a bit like he’s straining through most of the song. idk what version you are listening to tbh.

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    2. I wouldn’t say he went full on airy. Because he was singing in head voice mostly throughout. Even though he was singing high, he was still singing in a baritone range. And at other parts he was singing lower too.

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    1. This analysis is two months ago. We only update analyses if the vocalists show a change in their vocal technique, positive or negative. Most idols stay stagnant throughout their careers so even with new comebacks there’s no change to their technique. That’s the case for V, there’s been no change to his technique so there’s nothing to update.

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  4. As BTS has just released their new album, I have some questions 🙂

    Is the C6 an exclamation and not counted in vocal range?

    Is the F5 at 2:53 head voice and is the F5 at 3:00 mixed?

    From 3:57 to 4:01: Are those all mixed?
    Thank you 🙂

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    1. We usually don’t count exclamation notes unless they’re sustained. Yes F5 in head then mix and yes the D5, Eb5 and F5 were all mixed.

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      1. Will you be editing/doing another vocal analysis since their new album has a solo track for each member? I feel as though they’ve improved much more compared to debut and even just from their last album and would love to know what you think?

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      2. I haven’t noticed a change in their vocal technique. It’s very uncommon for singers to improve their singing technique with new comebacks because that would require a change of practice routine and vocal habits, which is not what most vocalists do. Most vocalists stick to their habits throughout most of their careers which is why it’s unlikely they’d improve unless they were consciously aiming to change specific bad habits, consciously.

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  5. ahmin, are you familiar with ville valo?i know he’s a baritone,i don’t know much about his technique,i’ve read that he’s good… and also i was shocked when i read that josh groban is a baritone?!

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      1. Ahmin I know this a blog to analyse K-Pop vocal techniques but I saw a comment about Ville Valo and honestly all the blogs and videos about his vocal range are made by fans that really don’t have a lot of knowledge about singing. And for me he is an awesome singer, but I don’t really know a lot about vocal techniques. So if you don’t mind, I will leave here two specific notes I would love to know about. Specially how well supported they are.

        Starts about 4:45 but the most important thing I want to know is about the low notes around 5:00

        And here I really would like your opinion of the high notes between 1:37 and and 2:05… He goes higher after that but it is just shouting

        So if you could listen to that and give me your thoughts about those notes and, only if you could, the singer overall. I will highly appreciate it.

        Anyways, thanks for all the hard work analysing all these artists

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  6. I agree with you about everything! I find V’s solo in the new album pretty good but I still hope for him to wake up someday and ask for more vocal lessons. He lacks technic and I think that if he only wanted to improve, he could go above an average kpop singer.

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  7. Hi, Ahmin! Thank you so much for this analysis. I never considered V to be the strongest vocal in BTS (mostly because I’m not well-versed in singing at all and his voice never left that much of an impression on me), but seeing your analysis made me realize his strength.

    I know you won’t be making a Jimin analysis, so I went and looked for people who had already analyzed his voice (sorry for being unloyal to you T_T). Could you look over this link (http://aminoapps.com/page/k-pop/1904917/vocal-analysis-2-jimin) and just talk about its correctness and whatnot, please?

    I think the motivation that both V and Jungkook lack, Jimin has a lot of it. If you watched his latest video log, you can see that he’s really trying his best and it makes my heart clench when he seemed so frustrated with himself. I think he has a lot of potential, but the way he’s learned (and been taught) to sing has gotten in the way of him reaching it.

    Like I mentioned before, I know nothing about vocals and the like, but Jimin’s voice is a personal favorite of mine (others being SHINee’s Onew and SNSD’s Seohyun); when I first listened to BTS, his voice was the only one that stood out to me and that I genuinely liked. I know he might be weaker than weak technique-wise (and maybe overall???), but I think he has a pleasant and sweet voice. What do you think of his voice, disregarding your knowledge on vocal technique and range and stuff? Would his voice appeal to you then? Does it appeal to you now lol?

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    1. I’d rather not judge that analysis too harshly because it was clearly made by a fan with limited choir knowledge of singing and mostly just a lot of sugarcoated compliments with barely any actual type of critique. He has no support and he is not a countertenor. I also think Jimin has a lot of motivation, I watched that video and it made me really sad. I think his voice is nice, it’s soft and light but he has no basis of technique which makes me mad at his company and I’d love to be able to help Jimin since he genuinely seems like he wants to improve his singing.

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  8. Thanks for this very thorough analysis! I’ve always liked the sound of V’s voice, but as he’s constantly having to sing tenor parts and hardly ever gets a chance to develop and strengthen his natural range (I know the feeling all too well as a lonely alto shoved in with the sopranos in choir), I think he’ll be trapped in the same spot in terms of vocal skill/technique for as long as he’s with BigHit. There are so many weak points you mentioned that Bighit could touch on to truly bring out his full potential, yet they really don’t, and it annoys me to no end – not just with V but the rest of the vocal line, too. I look at idols from other companies and see just how decent their voice coaching has been in comparison, and although I kind of hate to say this, I honestly wish BTS could switch to one of those other companies. I know this is a hiphop/rap-oriented group, but that doesn’t mean the actual vocal line should go on neglected and improperly trained.

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    1. i think honestly that bighit is a company geared more towards composition and “art” in terms of feeling rather than technique, if that makes sense? while i really wish bighit would focus on their vocals i also really appreciate that they allow members to compose their own work and make their own decisions. so i don’t wish for them to leave bighit, just for bighit to get its act together in vocal training

      it’s also sad to think that for V, and with the way BTS is structured and it being unlikely for him to go solo, he might not be motivated or see the point in progressing further with his vocals :(( and most fans just praise them and say there’s nothing to fix! just hope one day they’ll realise how to improve :c

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    2. BTS should definitely stay with BigHit! BigHit not hiring the best vocal coaches looks like a walk in the park compared to how other companies treat their idols! Other companies can neglect idol creative input. BH pretty much focuses only on BTS, they listen to BTS’s ideas/input for the music, this is HARD to find in K Pop.

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  9. How can that group survive when the best vocalist V can support only to C#4 and the second vocalist Jungkook to E4. Do you think BTS is vocally weakest male idol group among Kpop now?

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    1. They’re not a group centered around good singing. They’re barely centered around singing at all, they’re a rap focused group. Also no, I don’t think they’re the weakest male idol group in K-pop right now. There are other groups who have vocalists who are equally as undertrained and underdeveloped such as SF9, Astro, iKon, ZE:A and KNK.

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      1. I am not 100% familiar with all members of Ikon but from what I’ve heard no members of these groups can support properly at all. That’s basically it, they can’t support therefore they’re likely to be weak vocalists.

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      2. Are all Ze:a singers weak? Because I’ve listened to Dongjun a couple of times in Immortal Songs and I thought he wasn’t that weak:

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    2. they still can strain high notes tho. considering jimin often praised for hit higher notes. beside, jungkook and v are known for have nice, favorable, good to hear, and lovable voice. it is rare to find vocalist loved for good singing technique. BTS only 3 years old after debut, so it is okay to not have good vocal tech. usually people get bored after 4 or 5 years. so i hope Jungkook, V, and Jimin start to learn singing technique before they have vocal damage

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    3. “How can that group survive when the best vocalist V can support only to C#4….” Well aside from what Ahmin mentioned, BTS is a group that can stand on its own as they compose and write their own songs rather than just performing them. It’s not like other companies where trainees’ sole purpose is to sing and dance well. So considering they have a strong rap and dance line AND the ability to produce, compose & write their own songs I’d say their place within the industry is well deserved.

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    4. Well, the voices that people find pleasant are not always the best technical vocalists. Adele is probably an Average vocalist compared to some of her contemporaries but many would agree that she has a pleasant voice to listen to. BTS does just fine because:

      1. They are not centered on vocals, but rap, composition, lyrics, performance, and dance

      2. They have vocalists that are pleasant to the ear, albeit not great technically.

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    1. Junhoe is the one I know the most, he’s a baritone who’s improved a little in his approach but mostly sings in his throat. He’s REALLY rough, pushed and throaty, more than most vocalists. I don’t know any members of Astro by name, sorry.

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      1. Now, that I think about it, I agree with you on Junhoe. It’s crazy that he is the main vocalist because he gets high notes for a baritone. I’m a baritone myself and those types of notes made me use my throat because it’s hard to support. It’s alright you don’t know Astro by names. Do you know how their lead and main vocalist sound, if you do, can you analyze from their?

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  10. Hi! I’m kinda new to here so I don’t know how things go hahaha. I hope you don’t mind me asking questions and it’s fine of you won’t answer!!!
    ok so! umm, is jimin using falsetto here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j1xf69jXz0 at 3:45, and what note? I think it starts from Bb4?
    is jin’s note here C5 too at 3:24 or higher by a semitone at least? i love him but to me he sounds like he has a cold when he sings his high notes, do you also think that? haha

    is v doing a head voice here at 3:12?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NEosndLhPU and in 3:14 is that F5 falsetto? and in 2:47, hmmm I think he pushed his voice to hit that note, am I right?

    oh this is not bts but….did pinky really hit an A5 here at 0:54 and 1:48?

    and did she hit the original note in here at 0:49 and 1:44?

    do you happen to know yoo yeunjung? If so, is she at least above average? cause her high notes are really clean, but not her G5 I guess.

    AND DID HYORIN REALLY HIT G5 IN HER NEWEST TEASER OMG. All that lipsyncing definitely made her voice rest I’m so happy. Don’t know if she improved tho, but at least there’s something!!! Thank you very much and I’m sorry for these very long questions!

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    1. Actually so far people have asked me if I listened to the new songs that BTS released and all the solos as if new songs meant they improved magically, but they didn’t and so the questions were vague but I like it when people post videos with time stamps and specific questions, so thank you for that. Someone actually already asked me about Jin’s solo before with a lot of notes stamped. Let me see anyway.

      3:45 Lose My Way, it was D5, to E5, up to G5 then back down to E5. It was maybe a really squeezed head voice but let’s call it a falsetto for now.
      3:24 in Jin’s solo is actually a Bb4, but he does sing ye (C5) eeeeh (Bb4) right after. Jin is really stuck in his throat and nose, he’s so tense and so tight when he sings so it would make sense for him to sound like he has a cold because of how heavily he places his voice in his nose.
      3:12 F5 in falsetto, then 3:14 the G5 was more connected but VERY very pushed. He pushed his voice the whole time but let me hear 2:47 That’s a pretty chesty throat G4. It was pushed yes.

      0:54 and 1:48 Yes, I was as shocked as you might be when I first heard the A5, I don’t understand why they made a song this high but she did mix A5. She did hit the A5 live as well. No, Yeonjung is not above average. Her high notes aren’t really clean, they’re really tight, really pushed, really throaty. She can sound really throaty even on C5. Pre-debut she has some nicer more opened notes around C5 and C#5 from some school clips, but on Produce 101 and after all notes in the fifth octave are very strained.

      Your questions are specific so I appreciate that. ^ ^

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      1. Wow! Thank you so much for the reply!!
        It’s kinda a common sense to state the time of what you’re referring to cause it’s not like people can guess what really you’re asking, so I can’t believe people don’t provide time stamps haha. I hope you’re not getting suuuper annoyed to people like me asking about the notes done by bts vocalists in their songs cause we’re just reeaaalllyy curious especially in their newest album. Their wings album seems to incline more on vocal aspect and it’s not very hiphop-y so I think armies are very thirsty for info about the vocal parts. Since the vocalists are venturing their vocal capablity, like Jin doing high notes, Jimin belting mixed F5s and V singing those G5 falsettos, even if these are not technically good or whatever, it’s good to hear that they are capable to hit AND sing those notes instead of just screaming to hit those notes. To be honest, the vocal line seems reallly weeaaaak to me when they started and they look like they can’t do what they can do now. Only Jungkook was stable and nice to hear, but the others were meh in their live stages. What appealed to me is their dance and the rappers only. So it really came a surprise to me when they gathered confidence, even if it’s in the studio only, to sing those notes now. I knew the others aside from Kook have good vocal colors before but now they really stood out too! They might not be good as vocalists but the small steps they take is good for me. 🙂

        Again, thank you! I hope you do well!!!

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  11. I remember when someone said that he is the weakest vocalist in BTS, and HE IS THE STRONGEST ACTUALLY ❤
    I love his voice so much, it's so special.

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  12. Hi ahmin!! Can you please check out this performance of them! it’s not that long!

    how were Tae’s head voice/falsetto in here? i think these are in 1:22 (although i think its jimin’s), and starting from 2:33….thakn you!

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    1. Unfortunately the audio quality is really not good, so it’s hard to hear and be able to tell exactly what I’m hearing. The sound is really muffled so I can’t really tell much. I don’t hear anything really new, from Jimin’s singing that is. 1:23 Sounds more falsetto-like to me and it sounds like a baritone voice…but I’m not sure. It’s really REALLY nice to hear their songs acoustically, it’d be nice if they did this more. I hear a lot of tightness and airiness in their falsettos throughout. There’s not much else to say.

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  13. Hey Ahmin, can you please check this short clip of me singing Butterfly by BTS ? Can you analyse my (not so good) vocals verse to verse ? (Verse 1, Pre-Chorus, Chorus, Post-Chorus)
    Would be great if you’re familiar enough with that song to tell me things like is it comfortable for a Baritone or not, in which register they sing the most, etc…

    My personal remarks:
    The song:
    Generally in (head dominant) mixed and falsetto register. Lots of long (breathy) belts. Doesn’t seem to be a comfortable song for a Baritone singer, I’m surprised, as a Tenor with a low tessitura (I think), that I was able to hold the correct pitches at times, because I have the impression that I can go flat at anytime because of the highness of the melodies.

    My cover:
    Poor pitch precision, unsupported falsettos (duh), little to no sign of support at all, although I inhale through the mouth and the nose nearly every time I finish a line. Tone seems to be unprojected and this has always been an issue for me it seems: My teacher has always told me that I don’t place my mask placement isn’t good, thus limiting my ability to showcase my full voice –> I always feel that my voice sounds “shy”.
    Also, I don’t know why but the Post-Chorus is REALLY hard to sing. Every “Butterfly” just makes me suffer while I try to hold the last syllabe correctly. I sing that in mixed I think and I really wonder how Taehyung managed to do that without messing up his breathing.
    This song was btw NOT AT ALL comfortable for me to sing. Since the first verse, I’ve already gotten serious on the breathing and I felt that everytime I breathe in, I feel tightness in my body. I’m surprised that this clip makes me seem relaxed lol.

    Do I sound like a Baritone or Tenor ? Idk why but it seems my voice gets higher and lighter as I grow up, my current range is D2-Bb5 (screech from A5) and I’ve lost my C#2 lol.

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    1. Also it’d be cool if you can check out some of my vlogs and compare my speaking voice to my singing voice LOL XD (ignore the chest voice because it sounds the same)

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    2. I mean I expressed very clearly in the analysis that BTS songs are fairly comfortable for a tenor but for a baritone, they’re a bit high and they’re mostly pretty light songs that are generally hard for us to sing without a bit more volume. What I don’t understand is if you’re so well aware of all these issues you have, why is it that you’re not fixing them? Because if you know that you inhale incorrectly, that you’re not supporting and you’re pitchy. (most of the pitchiness is because you’re too airy as opposed to actually being pitchy, your notes kind of get lost in the airiness.) You have WAY too much air throughout your whole range, if your vocal cords aren’t fully connected then you’re not supporting, then you’re not developing your vocal cords, then you can’t place your voice and then nothing changes. You didn’t do that bad, but you’re just not really in the right path right now. I honestly don’t know, you seem more like a baritone to me but I am not entirely sure. You should probably attempt a song that’s more comfortable and focuses on your mid range, so you develop that range FIRST.

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      1. Hey thanks for the answer ! About the issues that I have, well here goes…

        I’ve been taking singing lessons since July now and so far, the main things I’ve done is re-shaping my vowels and learn how to support properly. However, my teacher and I have always stayed within a more Baritone-ish range when we practiced. For warm up exercises, my ranges goes from B2 to G4 only, mostly in chest voice. Even when we practice with songs, I just choose songs with a very narrow range like O Sole Mio, Quando Quando Quando, Never Gonna Give You Up, etc…

        And this pretty much limits the usage of my mixed register, LOL. I still get better thanks to knowledge about breath support, placement and vowel, but most of it is still chesty so when I sing other songs (mostly Tenor), my mix, head and falsetto just die XD

        About the airiness throughout the song, I think it is because of Jungkook. The dude’s singing style is so airy that whenever I sing any BTS song, I automatically follow the same style as him. When I sing JT it’s the same hahah, before I tried to falsetto nearly everything.

        I can’t imagine myself singing Butterfly with a more “connected” approach, every sung line of that song seems airy and falsetto-ish to me now….

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      2. Well if you are a baritone G4 is pretty high as a mixed voice range so singing a song designed for a tenor voice is not a wise decision, especially when for us it’s so high. I mean I make sure I sing songs that peak at E4/F4, or rarely F#4 and G4 if I’m feeling more up to it, but to constantly be phrasing up there from the verse? Oh no. Don’t emulate people when you sing their songs, don’t copy their bad habits. It’s not a wise thing to do. So you’re singing Italian songs? Interesting.

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      3. About me emulating JK’s breathy style, it is because I’ve never really practiced this song clearly. I’m trying to sing it again now with a chestier approach:
        – first verse: sounds fuller
        – pre-chorus: sounds tense, mostly tongue
        – chorus: goes absolutely nowhere because “seondamyeon…” must use falsetto and so I switch back and forth chest/mix/falsetto and it confuses me hahah
        – post-chorus: although able to sustain notes longer, I sometimes push too much the “butterfly”

        My teacher has told me that the Italian language is perfect to reshape my whiny speech and singing. Before, I sing by placing my voice heavily in my nose, though not nasal, it made a very tense and whiny sound, seemingl influencing my pronounciation too. Now I’m still singing Italian songs because they seem to make my sound fuller. Also I like Italian music XD I’m learning Italiano by interest too, seems like Child’s Play compared to German (and thank god I already knew French so the words are so familiar)

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      4. Honestly I would rather you sing another song altogether, one that sits in YOUR range, not his range. Your teacher is right, Italian is a great language for good vowel shaping and placement. Oh German is fun. lol

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  14. i find the ugliest, worst BLOG, BLOG USELESS, blog HATERS THAT ITS CONTENTS WASTE, i know you HATERS BTS INTENTIONS, TO MAKE A BLOG TO HATE BTS. SALUTE. , UGGLIEST PEOPLE DONT HAVE A BRAIN. I KNOW YOU FROM OTHER fandom. FUCK BTS WINS ARTIST OF THE YEAR. BLOG like YOU are not appropriate. BLOG UGLY. DO NOT USE

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    1. I am not sure why I am even going to try and be reasonable with you but let’s give it a try. I understand English is not your first language. This isn’t a blog about artistic achievements, it isn’t a blog meant to throw hatred and it is not a blog made by hatred. You act as though BTS are the lowest vocalists we have on this blog and we called them ruthless and hurtful names, which we never did. Had you taken the time to ACTUALLY know who we are, you’d see that the blog is made by people who listen to all kinds of vocalists. This blog is made by vocal instructors. If you knew me, you’d know I LOVE Vmin to death. If you actually took the time to read, you’d see the blog has many many other vocalists who received the same ratings as BTS’ vocalists. Had you taken the time to read their analyses, you’d be able to educate yourself and understand what the analyses mean, but you didn’t even try that much. We have better things to do than to throw hatred around, unlike you. We have other things to do and we’d rather not spread hatred, we’d rather spread love and education. The problem here isn’t us, it’s people like you who don’t read and refuse to be reasonable and understand things. You said in your other comment that you stalked “my dumbass” and that you know I am “anti BTS” and you know I am an “EXO-L.” Not only could that be further away from the truth, if you had actually searched you’d see I belong to no real fandom and I am a silly 15 year old fan girl who likes to spend her time online fighting other fans and screaming at them with hurtful words because they don’t agree with me. That is not me, but you might fit that role so I ask of you, please. Stop, re-evaluate yourself and read the analyses on this blog properly. Oh and grow up. ^ ^ I will delete your other comment because comments like these are unnecessary. I will delete any immature response to this comment as well BUT I will keep this one comment of yours so that people know that we are not a group of haters and we are not immature fangirls, and that they will know we do not tolerate this kind of childish behavior. Have a good day.

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      1. so you’re rooting for VMin huh? too bad because VKook is quite good thou. that adorable cute demon maknae definitely has something against V *smirk

        anyway, youre doing great with that user, as always. cant believe they still exist in this blog ugh

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      2. After reading this very long post ahmin, all I can say is that you have the patience of a saint. And though I’m fairly sure none of that will get through to this person, I’m glad you took the time to say it because people don’t seem to understand that a vocal analysis is hardly a reflection of a person but their technical skill as a vocalist.

        Also, may I also say that I find sites like this very refreshing? My expertise in this area is somewhat limited so I like that there are trained, knowledgeable people to educate the rest of us. I’m tired of seeing people get praised for straining and shouting, just as I’m tired of strong vocalists being put down because they know the limitations of their instrument and use it wisely. Being a bass-baritone in musical theatre, this has been a sore point with me for years, as I only worked within the 3rd – lower 4th octaves and avoided anything higher like the plague. Constantly losing challenging parts to tone deaf baritones/tenors who didn’t have the slightest clue what breath support or resonance was, depressed me to no end; and it wasn’t until following you guys that I realized that it was a wise decision to let those parts go and focus on developing my 2nd octave support. If no one’s told you how helpful you guys are, I’m saying it now. Keep doing what you do. I hope to be able to impart the same knowledge in the future.

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      3. Dear, I know your struggle. It’s always sad to lose your place to others and wonder what you can do to be better when it’s not about being better, it’s just about being who you are. In the end, we have to find our own color, instead of trying to match what higher voices do. Since people want a specific sound, we shouldn’t try to work on our skill and feel mad at those who lack the skill but have the right voices. We just weren’t born to be what they are, so we work to be the best version of ourselves that we can be and then show people our skill by doing what we do best. Awwww thank you for encouragement and kind words, it does mean a lot to us. ^ ^

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  15. nggg isnt there any vocal runs that is done by 3 vocalist in their song blood sweat and tear? they might be sloppy runs but is it not worth to be mentioned in the analysis? what do you think about their vocal runs in ‘blood, sweat and tears’?

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    1. Well the song came out after the analyses were done and they’re not significant enough runs with any sort of technical achievement to be mentioned within the analyses.

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    1. Having a breathy voice is not a characteristic thing for someone, it’s a stylistic choice. When the vocal cords don’t fully come together, there’s an airy quality to the voice which is what a breathy voice is. Since the vocal cords aren’t fully coming together, they’re not connecting nor stretching properly. Since they aren’t properly connected, they’re not able to develop themselves properly. Full support is not present if the vocal cords don’t come together, and like we’ve discussed many times support is the first thing a vocalist should learn. If a vocalist hasn’t learned to support properly, then they don’t have the basics down. So having a breathy voice is not “a preference” unless it’s done on purpose. Airiness can be used as a stylistic device, but it is only stylistic if it’s done on and off at will. Weak vocalists don’t do it at will, they do it because they don’t know how to sing in any other way where proper support is present. Also yes airiness can damage the voice because not only support isn’t present, but it dries up the vocal cords and causes the vocalist’s vocal cords to be irritated and improperly developed.

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      1. Taehyung/V released a short video of him singing on their Twitter: https://twitter.com/BTS_twt/status/812676911084105728 I think he comes out a lot more stable than what we’ve heard from him before (I’m no expert tho) and I’ve been told that they got a new vocal coach a few months ago (try to ignore some of his english pronunciation). Am i right?

        I hope you see this because you and your analysis was the first thing I thought of when heard this

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      2. He sounds really pretty. I don’t associate myself with the word “stable” because it’s vague, but this isn’t very different from many other times when he was able to sing comfortably while standing still. It’s a bit high of a key for him to be constantly mixing tight F4’s, but his mix is kind of brighter so it’s not too bad. He needs to use a bit less air and airiness as well.

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  16. At about 2:11 what high note did Jin hit in the background?
    Also what do you think of the execution of it? Was it supported? Was it properly placed?

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    1. Oh this song, it’s a song people often ask bout. See the thing with Jin is he is unable to support his voice. He generally sings with tension throughout his range, so the higher the note, the less likely it is for him to support it. The you pointed out is a falsetto F5 and it quickly goes up to G5. Its pushed, tight, compressed in the throat and it’s kind of nasal. So it’s not supported nor well placed.

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      1. Thanks for the quick reply. I know this may be a lot to ask but would you say Jin and Jimin have similar levels of vocal strength? I noticed that they both struggle with the same things. Vocal tension, no support etc… Also how large is the gap of vocal strength between Jin/Jimin and Jungkook/V? Are they all considered weak?

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      2. Well no as you see V is a weak to average vocalist. The lowest one we have amongst males. Jimin has tongue tension and airiness but he is not nearly as throaty as Jin, I could give Jimin somewhat of a supported range. I am not sure what the gap is though.

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  17. These are my last questions, I don’t want to bother you lol

    At 1:01 is that note by Jimin well executed? It sounds somewhat supported but I’m no expert.

    Also if Jungkook somehow got rid of his breathy tone, would that put him in consideration to be a weak to average vocalist? And if V got rid of his airy tone, would that put him in consideration to be a average vocalist?

    Finally do you think Jin could possibly be a baritone that is trying to sing as a tenor?
    I feel like the nasality of his voice, and his tendency to raise his larynx when singing makes his voice seem higher pitched than it really is? I noticed that he can sing quite low for a tenor as well.

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    1. No not quite, it is quite pushed. It’s a Bb4 btw. It’s sung with a high larynx and a shouty approach. The breathiness isn’t a problem, he could still be breathy for style but he is ALWAYS breathy. When he is not breathy, he pushes. He needs to find a happy middle. They need to work on vocal cord development. No, I really don’t think Jin is a baritone. His voice doesn’t sit low enough for him to be a baritone. At least from what I’ve seen.

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  18. Hello! I saw this clip and I though Jungkook sounded pretty good in it, do you mind sharing your overall thoughts on it? I would be more detailed but I know next to nothing about techinque and I don’t want to sound like someone who thinks they know what they’re talking about when they obviously don’t haha

    His bit starts at 1:16

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    1. This actually has been asked about already and let me copy paste according to the other video. It would be wiser to check out the comment section for Jungkook’s analysis instead of V’s.

      “He is hitting quite a few F#4’s, which are outside of his supported range and then 0:24 G#4’s which are even higher. So he sounds quite shaky, his vibrato uneven and yes it is strained.”

      1:20 In the video you showed, he is using a bit too airiness between his vocal cords and irritating his vocal cords in the process of how he’s approaching those high notes. 1:32 here I hear a clear irritation in the way he’s pushing air. 1:39 Here he’s connecting his vocal cords more, but singing with a high larynx and pushing the sound out with more tightness.

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      1. look i’m a fan too but BTS is a hip hop group..not a vocal group. i hope fangirls can accept that reality and stop pushing you to give more analysis on their vocals lol.

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  19. Sorry, I know you answer these questions all the time and I don’t mean to bother you, but is there any difference with their singing in this performance? Some fans are saying Jungkook’s voice sounds different and V sounds like he improved to me. But im a noob at singing so can’t really say for sure. https://youtu.be/fHNWVKJ2YC8

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    1. Jungkook sounds different than his USUAL singing but not different than other stuff I’ve heard from him. He sounds fairly similar to other times where I’ve heard singing with less airiness and more tone. I don’t really hear a change, it’s hard to be fair cause it is lip synched but it’s not bad for V, it’s just the same as usual. The range is fairly easy too, it only went up to F4 which for Jungkook isn’t much of a change.

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  20. So can he develop …and how …I see potential but I know he has confidence problems cuz he isn’t the main vocalist or he doesn’t have enough lines ..I really liked * if I ruled the world * ..and * oh happy day* …his VOICE ..like I first hear it ..how can he improve …what song suggestions do u think he can cover ?
    Thank u

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    1. Well if I were him I’d go for songs that work on his mid range more, like lower baritone songs like a whole new world is in a good range.

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      1. I mean ..where do u think his potential can lead him? he is 1.5 …the most development for him would be 2 ? 2.5 ? 3…etc ? ..is that even possible to happen if singer has shown huge development ..I hope I made it clear ..sorry for the confusion ..what do u think? ..thank u

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      2. We don’t like the numbers, they are there for organization but we prefer the terms such as weak to average. His potential can lead him as far as excellent but that depends on him and his vocal instructor, not me.

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  21. Sorry I just said numbers to keep it short ..I know they r for organization …Excellent really??! ..they must change their vocal practice I am with u ..if u have any ideas on how plz share ..i really respect ur opinion ….thank u

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    1. Do you mind telling me if there’s anything special you heard in this performance that would make you ask bout it? I understand the curiosity with every single new performance but it would only make sense if there’s something different vocally to talk about.
      I can’t always sit down and watch videos so I’d appreciate it if you could help me when you ask questions.

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    1. Jungkook hit a lot of tense, airy and pushed G4’s throughout. 1:42 Jin sounds tight and tense throughout, I hear no support. V stayed within the E4 ~ A4, which is way outside his supported range. 2:14 yes the G#4 was quite tight.

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      1. 1:01 he didn’t hit a high note, he was singing C4’s but at 1:06 he hit G#4 and yes he strained. Jin generally strains anywhere above Eb4.

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  22. Hi I’ve been scrolling through the comments section for quite some time, not entirely sure if this question has been asked already but what did you think of V’s solo in the Wings album? He actually did hit a couple of high notes (especially the one towards the end) and I thought he did pretty well until I read this analysis. I have very little idea about all this so I just wanted to ask if you could share what you thought about his solo song Stigma.

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    1. It was asked a couple of times actually. It was mentioned cause people kept thinking he sang really high but the highest note was G5, in a strained pushed head voice. He didn’t do anything different in this solo from what’s already been established in the analysis. Mixed voice was strained up to G4 and a lot of pushed head voice notes.

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  23. If they receive proper training specifically V and Jung kook, how well do you think they could improve to move from the weak to average range into another range? Like the extent their vocals can improve to.

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    1. The key is, they have none of those things. Vocal training costs money and more importantly time taken out of promotions and concerts, neither of which BigHit is willing to sacrifice. Perhaps the BigHit vocal trainer isn’t very good either considering the quality of BTS’s vocals, but it’s equally likely that they just didn’t get enough time with her. Vocal line (bar Jin) only trained for a year before debut and most of that was focused on dance.

      Jungkook has said before that he is satisfied with his current vocals and isn’t looking to improve which is rather sitting on your laurels if you ask me. But then again being a successful idol has little to nothing to do with good vocals, or else SPICA would be #1.

      I’m not trying to bash BTS as I’m actually a big fan, but it’s mainly for their rap and dance and personalities. I do wish they could improve in vocals so they can be better live and have more of a chance of solo careers after BTS. Their current music seems to be involving a lot more of the vocal line so they’re going to need it. Jimin should get Taemin’s vocal tutor’s number! I really want him to improve! I hope Taehyung could meet Iris Stephenson again so he can learn to sing real jazz and soul like he likes but that will never happen 😦

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    1. Someone already asked about this on December 25th, next time please make sure to check the comments before posting a video just in case we have already answered it.
      “He sounds really pretty. I don’t associate myself with the word “stable” because it’s vague, but this isn’t very different from many other times when he was able to sing comfortably while standing still. It’s a bit high of a key for him to be constantly mixing tight F4’s, but his mix is kind of brighter so it’s not too bad. He needs to use a bit less air and airiness as well.”

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  24. Kind of a weird question, but why does Taehyung’s voice go kind of “croaky” on the “mach” part of “machimak” in Blood Sweat Tears? I’m just wondering if there’s a specific reason because Jimin/Jungkook don’t sound like that haha. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q159t_RYKsY&t=1m3s around 1.04 (I know it’s studio but I haven’t been able to find a live one where he sounds the same…..yet)

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    1. He used a creak, which is like a vocal fry function of the vocal cords but with other parts of your range. So basically he rubbed his cords together, it’s like a little moan-sound.

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  25. Ele me lembra muito Junhoe do iKon, até mesmo o timbre e classificação, Junhoe é barítono também? Penso que na classificação ele possa ficar entre V ou Taeyang ou até mesmo ser o mais fraco da linha W to A, ou ele é um vocalista fraco?

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    1. I’m sorry but where? I only hear him mixing. 1:03 ~ 1:10 V was mixing F4’s and G4’s. 3:00 A lot of phrased G4’s again. 3:08 falsetto Bb4.

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      1. sorry i forgot to say it’s in the background! it’s still in 3:36 🙂 i don’t think there’s Bb4 fasletto in 3:08
        yey I’m correct in F4-G4 hahahah

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  26. Hi, I just wanted to ask how he did in this perfomance? I don’t know if it’s just me but I feel that he still too airy(not sure) and was this song high for him or it was in a comfortable range?

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  27. Ahmin, as of now I guess I’m an eighteen years old Baritone with a less fuller voice (sounds like a young boy/teenager still), a range which spans from D2-B5 (must scream from A5 onwards). Do you think I can actually train my head in order to reach as “well” as Taehyung did with his C6?

    Again, his C6 makes me wonder, if there’s Baritones who can go high as V and Sungjae (also Hyunsik, Wonho, I.M, Ilhoon)… is it possible to have Tenors with limited higher range? Chunji seemed to reach his limit at G#5 but I’m not really convinced that it’s the highest he could go

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