BTS’ Vocal Analysis: V

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Vocal Range

Eb2 ~ C6 (3 octaves, 4 notes and 1 semitone)

Supported Range

C3 ~ C4/C#4

Voice Type

Lyric Baritone

Strengths/Achievements

  • Strongest vocalist in BTS
  • The strongest sense of breath support amongst all members of BTS
  • Able to remain most relaxed within his comfort range
  • Able to transition into his falsetto with relative ease
  • Mixed voice is light and lacks pushing, not trying to sing too high with too much throat tension
  • Able to remain relatively relaxed up to C#4 and at times even D4
  • Sense of pitch has improved since debut
  • Sufficient support is maintained down to C3 in his chest voice

Weaknesses

  • Tends to sing with too much airiness
  • Support is shallow and underdeveloped
  • Tends to lower his larynx too often when singing
  • Above C#4, he tends to sound harsh and flat
  • Tone production often becomes flat due to lack of forward placement
  • Lower range is relatively underdeveloped for a baritone
  • Unable to support his head voice
  • Falsetto is often too airy and lacks projection

Registers

  • Lower register: Due to the range in which BTS’ music is written in, he gets very few chances to showcase the true development of his lower range. Thus, his voice is relatively underdeveloped in his lower range for a baritone, where his tone production becomes muffled as he sings below C3.
  • Mixed register: His mixed voice is relatively light in terms of mixing, where he uses more head voice than chest voice when singing higher to minimize the amount of effort and strain on his vocal cords. Although able to sing above his first passaggio, his support is somewhat shallow and he tends to become tense above C#4.
  • Upper register: Able to transition into his falsetto with relatively ease, his overall tone production is airy throughout most of his voice but becomes fairly obvious as he sings in his falsetto. Able to produce a connected head voice even though support isn’t present.

Agility

Drawing less influences from R&B than many other idol vocalists in K-pop, V generally sings with an airy approach throughout his range and doesn’t often attempt singing vocal runs. The airiness in his voice makes it harder for him to be able to connect his vocal cords properly and control his pitch. This results in often sloppy runs when he does attempt them, in rare occasions. Perhaps aware that his voice isn’t necessarily very agile, as he lacks the correct muscle coordination to sing and bounce through different notes quickly, it is hard to find examples of V attempting vocal runs. The few times he’s done so, it’s possible to hear that he lacks clarity in tone and often sings runs by sliding through the notes quickly, without hitting each individual pitch precisely at the center of the note. This causes his runs to sound sloppy and pitchy overall, as heard in “Sorry“, “Little Star“, and “듣는편지.”

Overall analysis

V debuted as a member of the vocal line of BTS in 2013. Although not the main vocalist, the distribution of lines was even enough that he sang relatively often regardless of him being a lead vocalist or not. In most cases, idol groups favor vocalists with higher voices because most idol songs are written within quite high ranges, for males and females. Thus it is more common to see a main or lead vocalist of a group be a tenor or a soprano. In BTS’ case, V’s voice stands out because he is the only baritone singing with other three tenors in the group, although every rapper in BTS is also a baritone. His voice is thick in tone and slightly lower range, but still remaining relatively light in weight and sounding more like a lyric baritone than anything else. Although mostly written for a lower tenor range, BTS’ music is written within a relatively low enough range where V is able to sing alongside the tenors without too much stress on his vocal cords.

Considering most tenor songs generally are written above C3, V as a baritone gets very few chances to actually sing in a more baritone-like range most of the time. Thus his lower range below C3 is mostly underdeveloped and not very well explored, as he doesn’t sing that low very often. Down to C3, he has shown a clear enough consistency of tone production and projection, where both his vocal cords and his support work together to allow his chest voice to project with decent tonality. This can be heard in “안아줘“, “Oh Happy Day!” and “Someone Like You.” Below C3, however, he starts to lose connection and support, as his voice starts to become more muffled and breathier. This seems to be because his vocal cords aren’t developed enough as he sings lower, so his tone becomes less clear as he’s unable to project and place his voice in his chest as easily as above C3. This can be heard in with the Bb2’s in “If You“, A2’s in “안아줘“, G2’s in “Let Me Know” and the octave unison E2’s in “Someone Like You.”

His mixed voice is relatively well developed in terms of mixing and has enough support for him to be able to sing above his first passaggio, B3, without tensing up his throat too much. The range from C4 to D4 can be sung with some support as he’s able to remain relaxed and not sing only from his throat. This can be heard in “바람인가요“, “듣는편지” and “안아줘.” As he ascends above D4, he tends to use a very light mixed voice which is mostly head dominant, which allows him to push his voice with less tension than if he were to use a heavier and louder chest-dominant mixed voice. Nonetheless, the lack of support above D4 causes him to sound shallow and thin the higher he sings, as his voice becomes too light and oftentimes he can sound somewhat flat when singing above his comfort range. He tends to sing with a soft approach, but tension is still present in his throat as he’s unable to connect his breath support to his vocal cords in order to maintain his throat opened. This can be heard in the D4’s in “Something“, Eb4’s in “눈, 코, 입“, E4’s in “If I Ain’t Got You“, “Someone Like You“, F4’s in “I NEED U“, “If You“, “Butterfly“, F#4’s in “Let Me Know“, “Love is not Over“, G4’s in “Bang Bang Bang“, “안아줘” “눈, 코, 입“, “이사” and G#4’s in “잡아줘.”

His upper register mostly consists of a falsetto, with occasional moments where he’s shown the ability to use a head voice. Most of the time his vocal cords aren’t fully connected and he sings with excessive airiness, which causes him to sound thin and soft in his upper register, mostly associated with a falsetto voice. Although relaxed to an extent, a falsetto is not a register where true support can be present. Support would only be truly present if he were to use his head voice properly, however the few times V has shown a head voice have shown that he has issues with maintaining the connection of breath support with his vocal cords, where he instead pushes too much air against his vocal cords instead of allowing them to produce his head voice with their own strength and development. This results in a head voice that lacks control, by not being relaxed nor supported. This can be heard when contrasting his falsetto in “듣는편지“, “House of Cards“, “눈, 코, 입“, “Butterfly” and “Miss Right” with his head voice in “How Am I Supposed to Live Without You.” Interestingly enough he is the only member of the vocal line to be able to push his head voice all the way up to the sixth octave, higher than any of the tenors. This can be heard with the C6 in a high note battle during a fan meeting.

One of V’s main issues actually come from his tendency to push his larynx down when singing and not fully maintaining his vocal cords connected throughout his range. When your vocal cords aren’t fully connected, a lot of air can pass through causing the vocalist to sound breathy and soft. Stylistically this can work in many cases, but training yourself to only be able to sing that way can cause the vocalist to limit their vocal development. If the vocal cords don’t fully come together when singing, the vocalist will be unable to allow their vocal cords to become stronger and develop in terms of volume, range and muscle strength.

Adding onto this, V usually favors lowering his larynx and opening the back of his throat a lot more than necessary when singing even within a relatively high range. Most of the time, V’s voice can be perceived as quite deep but actually when a vocalist pushes their larynx down, it alters the natural tone of their voice and causes their voice to sound much deeper than it really is. This is often a stylistic approach used in soul music, that can be turned on and off at will. However for V it’s either this approach, airy and overly opened in the back of throat while not fully relaxed, or a harsh growly approach. Only having two options can be limiting to a vocalist if they’re unable to grasp breath support fully yet. Since V tends to push the sound of his voice in the back of his throat a lot, the direction of air from his voice isn’t properly placed in his nasal cavities, which makes it harder for him to understand mask placement and project his voice. As such, he tends to sound slightly flat in tone production the higher he sings due to lacking a good connection of proper breath support, an open throat and a forward mask placed sound.

When comparing V to the other vocalists of BTS, it is possible to hear that both he and Jungkook are the most relaxed out of all four of them. They have the least issues with tension and have a relatively decent range in which their voices are more or less supported, even though support may be shallow. However things can get tricky when comparing a tenor to a baritone, as being a baritone and having to sing in the same exact range as a tenor puts V at a clear disadvantage. Truthfully BTS’ music isn’t written for a high tenor range but it is still a challenging range for a baritone to be singing in. The passaggio is where the voice naturally lifts and the muscle coordination becomes slightly different, as sort of a bridge between a register and the next. The first passaggio is the transition from chest voice to mixed voice, while the second one is from mixed voice to head voice. A lyric tenor’s passaggi are usually around D4/Eb4 and G4/Ab4, while a lyric baritone’s passaggi are B3 and E4.

If V were to sing the same song as Jungkook for an example, but the key was changed to suit his voice as a baritone, he’d be able to handle singing above his first passaggio slightly better than Jungkook would. So the only true difference between them is that V has a slightly better grasp of breath support. However given the fact that V can’t simply change the key of every BTS song there is to suit his voice, he has to sing in the same exact range as the other three tenors. So naturally within the range that these songs are written in, Jungkook is the most qualified member to handle singing their repertoire. If V were to look into more solo singing opportunities, understanding his own voice type and embracing the true tone of his voice could help him develop his voice better as a baritone if he could sing in a range that’s natural to his voice. For future improvements, working on further developing connection between his vocal cords to be able to handle more dynamic changes, while developing his breath support could help V develop his vocal technique better overall. However for the time being, his current skill level is adequate for the type of music he sings.

Musicianship

V is not much of a risk taker when it comes to his vocals and singing. He tends to sing with one specific style and doesn’t deviate much from that specific sound. He tends to choose either a harsh growly sound or a soft airy sound, which remains the same throughout most of his vocal performances. He doesn’t often try to add his own melodic changes to songs and instead chooses to sing songs as they’re originally written. When given the chance however, he does like to add his own twist to his vocal cords and is able to blend his voice with others and even himself when adding layers of harmonies to his vocal performances. One example would be the added harmonies present in his studio cover of “Someone Like You”, where he sang the song in the key he felt was most comfortable for his voice, adding his own octave unisons and harmonies throughout.

Rating

Weak to Average Vocalist

Vocal Range Video(s)

video by: We Are D-town

Best Vocal Performance(s)

Analyzed by Ahmin (Kitsunemale)

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410 thoughts on “BTS’ Vocal Analysis: V

  1. Which of the BTS vocalist do you think would has a higher chance of improving? Like you mentioned one of Jimin’s problems is tongue tension, is this an easier thing to fix than some of the issues the other members face?

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    1. Without having a proper sense of support, establishing that first is the hardest thing to do for any vocalist who has established bad vocal habits and has been singing the same way for quite a while. Added onto the fact that they have a lot of tension, it would be even harder to grasp support. For Jimin who’s full of tongue tension, it’d be easier than for Jin who has absolutely no support. It’d be harder for both of them than for Jungkook who is a lot more relaxed than them. V would have a harder time than Jungkook as well cause he never gets to sing in a range that’s good for him. Again this is just guess-work, we won’t know until they try.

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  2. Hi Ahmin,

    Just dropped in to say hi. I am ready to ask you the ultimate question for your fanboy heart.
    Duet from Jongyu or a cutiepie song by Vmin with very minimal vocal strain?

    P.S. What is the only thing cuter than a Vmin?

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  3. So I’ve been wannting to ask this, I don’t know if somebody’s already asked ir before (if so, sorry)…. I was wondering, since V used to play the sax, can that be why he has a better grasp of vocal support? is the breath technique for playing sax at all similar to the breath support for singing?

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    1. Oh nobody has asked that before. I wouldn’t say that the breathing technique used for woodwind/brass instruments and is similar, since people who play the flute don’t necessarily know how to support.

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      1. Are their similarities between singing/brass than woodwinds? Although woodwinds are taught to breathe from the diaphragm, there isn’t much you have to do to direct your breath because there are so many keys. So while some notes may be the same (ex low F and middle F have the same fingering and you have to use differing force to get the different notes) there are not that many times to do that.
        While brass instruments only have 3 valves so more notes will have the same fingering and it breathing becomes more important to distinguish a note.

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      2. Actually from what I’ve heard from people who play those instruments, the type of breathing for instruments with breath and singing is different. I’d have to check up on that as I’m not sure, but since the breath isn’t the same as actually letting your vocal cords vibrate, I wouldn’t say it’s directly related.

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      1. Not OP but when I heard it I thought, wow this is going to be hard to sing live. Is it a difficult song or does it just sound like one? To non-professional me it sounds like a vocally more challenging song than BTS’ usual stuff. And it’s a shame V didn’t sing it in a more comfortable range for him, but it shows off his range I guess. Do you think it’ll damage his voice singing it on tour all the time, or can he hit those notes without straining too much (it sounds like he’s straining to me, but I mean, it’s really high). What’s the highest note he hits in the song? (Sorry about having so many questions)

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      2. It is a difficult song and again it’s been asked about numerous times in the comment section. It’s a song with head voice G5’s, a lot of mixed G4’s and he’s constantly singing outside of his supported range with little to no success when it comes to proper technique. He is too young for this song alone to damage his voice, but he is singing in a range he’s not comfortable with a lot throughout the song.

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      3. Thanks so much! So sorry that this has been asked before, I swear I thought I read the entire comments section. Also thank you so much for this blog, it’s been very enlightening. I always realised BTS had weak vocals but I never would have figured V to be the strongest among them, with all the shouting and growling and the electronics they used on his voice in the earlier songs (if he even got any lines) I really thought they were trying to hide that he couldn’t sing at all. But with the examples you provided I can hear it too, he sounds good when he sings in a comfortable range. Makes me wish they would use his voice properly.

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    1. This song only goes up to C4 in the beginning, 0:16 it’s supposed to be A2 but he went lower like G2? I’m not sure why he sang the wrong note. 0:19 another C4. 0:26 the run was sloppy. 0:28 tense and tight E4. 0:33 more C4’s. He did fine within the range below C4, again nothing different from the analysis.

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      1. I see, thank you 🙂 sorry for bothering with you another question but I was just wondering, have you checked out any of their Spring Day performances? As you’ve highlighted, many of BTS’ songs are written outside of Tae’s range, yet I’m very impressed by how he handled the chorus/bridge in that song, and at least to my naked ears he sounded awesome (minus the fangirl bias kekeke xD) Has he shown any improvement so far this year at all?

        Here’s a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMqmnhgNLXY
        Tae’s parts are at 1:14, 1:41, 3:12, 3:32

        P.S: Thank you for always replying to questions, it’s quite rare that you come across someone who is actually knowledgeable and willing to discuss technical stuff with rookies like me, so thanks for that ^__^

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      2. Hi dear. Well you see improvement only happens if one is to change their vocal habits and actually consciously try to better their technique. Since V just sings without knowing what to do to improve, itd be hard for him to show any improvement. Quite honestly he is singing exactly how he’s always sing and constantly staying close to the D4 ~ G4 range, where he’s unable to show proper support or sing without pushing. It’s my pleasure, I only really want to help, so as long as you want to learn, then I want to teach.

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  4. Hi Ahmin,

    I know you’ve probably heard this song before seeing as I’ve seen it pop up so many times in the comments. But i just want to ask what you thought of something. If you’ve already received this question, feel free to skip it, I really wouldn’t mind. Let me get on to my point. The first night V performed Stigma was poor. I love the boy with all my heart and i don’t know if it was because he was nervous or just simply due to the fact that he lacked the support in his voice – probably both. Here’s a video:

    (The part I am talking about in particular is 0:38 – 1:22)

    The strain in his voice and how much he struggled to hit it made the video almost painful to listen to and seeing people use this video in particular to degrade him and compare him to animal made me sad yet I couldn’t defend it. It was a bad performance. However, I didn’t want to give up on him just yet, so every time he’s performed it, I watch to see how he improved and despite some pitchiness at times he has gradually gotten better. But today, it was remarkable. They are in sydney and usually you can kind of tell he is nervous but throughout the whole performance he was relaxed. And when the note came even I was taken aback. He hit it a lot more comfortably and has somewhat better control of his vocals, especially in comparison to the first video. There is still of course a strain but it is not as of obvious as it was the first night I guess.

    (The part here 2:04 – 2:46, sorry for the fans screaming but this is the only video i could find where they weren’t as loud and you could still somewhat make out his voice)

    I just wanted to know what you thought about the two videos, would you consider the latter and improvement and judging by the rate he is “improving” now? And what else could he have done vocally for it to have become a better performance. I really love this site so keep up all the hard work!

    Abby

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    1. Hi dear!

      Honestly nobody really asked something this specific about it and I greatly appreciate specific questions. When people drop in “what do you think about this?” It’s like…what do you want to know? But your question is very specific. 0:38 ~ 1:00 Actually I was okay with this part of the song, he wasn’t trying to sing in his head voice as much. Everything before and after was very tense, very pushed, very flat. The thing with this song is that…he shouldn’t be singing it anyway. It’s not like he can’t sing this high or even higher, it’s just can’t have support this guy. Most tenors in K-pop can’t support their head voices at all, much less in the fifth octave. He is not only trying to use head voice, but constantly throughout the fifth octave and trying to go for like G5 which is really hard to hit well for any male, especially a male who hasn’t been taught to use their voice properly. So if anything it makes me mad that nobody is trying to help him or look out for him.

      You’re right about this performance, perhaps because he’s less nervous, his pitch is considerably better. He is still pushing too much air, his head voice isn’t supported and he’s straining throughout but his throat isn’t as closed, his pitch is clearer and he is a lot better controlled throughout. I mean if he was able to do it in studio once, doing it in a live performance once or not is not what I’d call improvement because there is no support. We don’t know him personally, we don’t know his condition, what happened prior to each performance, there are so many factors that can weigh in so to call this improvement on his technique would be a bit farfetched. To say it’s improvement in performing this song specifically, yes 100% improvement in that aspect. Is he actively improving his technique? I can’t tell you if he is or not. Despite his pitch being better in the second performance, he is constantly pushing air. He is just using air pressure and breathiness throughout. V does this thing where he sings with a low larynx, pushed down, in his chest and mixed voice to sound “more soulful” and it can work for some lower songs but the more he does it, the more muffled and pushed back his sound is. He is not projecting clearly, he sounds thick and low but it’s not a natural thickness to his voice, it’s fabricated by the position of his larynx. Now adding that to his head voice where he is also pushing air, because he pushes air in all registers, to constantly strain that high is stressful to the vocal cords. He would need to learn to breathe and connect airflow against the vocal cords all over again to be able to sing this without pushing. It would have to start much lower, he wouldn’t just be singing this high for at least a few years honestly. If he is to work on his technique, it takes time to develop a register and to counter back improper technique. So he’d have to start from the bottom of his head voice before attempting to sing songs with him constantly pushing out F5’s and G5’s. It’s not an easy note to hit well, for any male.

      Thank you for love and support, for us and for V. I wish I could do more for him.

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  5. I’m so confused with the videos you linked? those high notes he’s hitting, aren’t they F6’s and C7’s? Not C6’s and F5’s. Honestly i just compared my voice on a keyboard and the notes just don’t match right

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    1. I think you might be looking at a keyboard with the wrong octaves written or you might be singing an octave above him.

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      1. i mean i guess so 😦 so then i can only sing up to a C6. I was told by my music teacher that i’m a soprano though… does that still make me one? I can hold a C6 as a note, not like a screatch lol. Also!! Are you going to do a vocal analysis of Jimin? I genuenly think that kid is a messo soprano lol

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      2. Can you not go any higher than C6? Jimin won’t be analyzed as it’s explained in our future analyses list. We only analyze half of the vocalists in a group and only the half with the better technique which is why Jimin wasn’t analyzed. He’s just a light lyric tenor who forces his voice to strain in falsetto too often. He sings with very damaging and unhealthy technique actually.

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      3. no i can’t comfortably go any higher than C6. Also, i’m glad you agree on his technique it’s extremely damaging and even someone who’s tone deaf can tell. Whoever the heck his vocal trainer is needs to be fired and has needed to be fired since the very beginning.

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      4. You can’t comfortably go higher but you could if you had to strain, right? Then that counts as part of your overall vocal range.

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      5. i can only strain one note higher than a C6 but it hurts which is why i just… won’t do it 😦

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  6. I want to know, you’ve probably already answered this question, but do you think BTS’s vocals have improved since debut days as a whole? I know BTS’s vocals(as far as technique goes) definitely aren’t the best, but they’re better than some other groups I’ve heard.(also, you don’t have to answer this, but if they continue with their bad technique, how long would it take for them to damage their vocal cords badly?). Thanks for reading:)

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    1. They’re better than other groups you’ve heard? Which ones? I can’t really answer the second question because people respond to abuse differently, some people take decades, some take very little time. The BTS members have very hectic schedules though. They’ve only been around for like 4 years, their careers aren’t very extensive so I haven’t noticed much improvement aside from the few things I might have mentioned within the analyses.

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  7. I love this website so much!! Thank you for creating great content. BTS is actually my favorite group, and I fell in love with V and his deep voice. But when I heard Stigma, I was so dissapointed. I want to shake him and just give him a proper teacher who can help develop him his lower range since I think it’ll cause him to stand out more and be more appealing. I just wish he would stop trying to match Jungkook or instead of showing off his range more, he would develop his baritone skills more. I love the review tho!! So keep up the good work 🙂

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    1. Unfortunately dear, no. It’s in our rules on the future analyses list that we only analyze half of the vocalists within a group and only the half with the better technique. Since BTS has 4 vocalists, we’d only analyze 2 of them and only the 2 with better technique who happen to be V and Jungkook. Which is why we have not and will not analyze Jin nor Jimin.

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    1. There’s a lot of breathiness throughout, stylistic but it’s not really exactly what I’d use to talk about any progress in his singing since breathy singing isn’t supporting, even if it’s stylistic. 1:02 B3’s, very nice and relaxed around that range. 1:13 A little bit shallow on support, but relatively relaxed even on D4. I just wish he wasn’t so breathy, even though it may be appealing to the ear, it’s not very different from his previous singing. 2:11 around that part of the song in the first verse and here, he is pushing his larynx down with his tongue and he is being breathy. It’s the typical “indie” style of singing, a swallowed tongue with a lot of breathiness. The range of the song seems to be limited to C3 ~ D4 which is a narrow and comfortable range for him.

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  8. hi Ahmin this is his performance of the new song. Idk it kinda let me down a bit. Like he is off-pitch since the beginning? I thought he would do well with the new song since it is composed at lower range so he shouldn’t have any problems singing it right? Through the whole song it seemed like he struggled to find the right pitch, and at some point he tried to sing with head voice (like he did in stigma). Do you think it might be because BH vocal trainer doesn’t have experience training baritone and Taehyung was trained the same as the other tenors?
    Sorry i don’t think i made any sense now ;___; i love taehyung and his voice and even his technique is bad i still love him and he speaks to my heart but this performance… and i just love the song too much…
    Anw this is my first time comment here and I just want to thank you and the team for making it happen. I learnt so much thanks to you guys!

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    1. The range isn’t a problem for him but he is whispering throughout most of the song. If he uses so much breathiness, his vocal cords barely connect so finding the center of pitch can be harder. 0:38 my problem isn’t his pitch, it’s not bad, my problem is the breathiness and tongue position. I don’t know why he would sing like he does, I am not sure we can always just blame their vocal trainer we don’t even know if they are currently being trained still. He is just singing softly throughout, but I actually am not hearing pitch issues. He is just breathy and quiet, that’s all. Aww thank you so much dear! ❤

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  9. Hey Ahmin~
    I’ve been stalking your blog for almost a year and finally got a WordPress account.

    Rap Monster and V performed their song together today. I’m gonna try to analyze it lol

    0:07-0:23, lowered larynx, he’s whispering those (what note is that?)
    0:30-0:34, less whispered but his larynx is still lowered (what note is that?)
    0:36, his larynx is on the floor
    0:44, (what note is that?) and his larynx is still low lol
    0:51, legit every song he sings is too high or too low for him to sing properly
    0:56, that was air (what note is that?)
    1:00, Rap Monster is a baritone too, but he sounds so high compared to V
    1:15-1:26, shallow support (what note is that?)
    1:27, careful if you’re wearing headphones
    2:00-2:26, really breathy singing
    2:26-2:40, I can’t hear him that well but I can pick up slight support
    2:58, I can’t hear him and Rap Mon’s not even singing that loud
    3:29, slight support

    Overall, this song is nice. I feel sorry for the vocalists in BTS. Their vocal trainer was Lee Sungeun, she trained Twice, IOI, and she’s doing season 2 now (you know how well she does her job lol). She ensnared them all in her trap of vocal mediocrity lmao. I hope they don’t screw their vocal cords up, cuz that would be like the end of their idol career :((((((
    I wanna help them but I can’t.

    What was the range of this song again? B3-D4? Sorry for the long post. Thanks~

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    1. Hi congratulations on making an account!! Someone actually already asked about this performance today. 0:36 larynx on the floor LOLOL 0:22 C3 that was. 0:51 This isn’t too low for him, he is doing all of this stylistically. I don’t necessarily recommend nor support his stylistic choices, but these notes aren’t too low for him. 1:24 ish he is hitting D4’s. So the thing is this song he is just whispering throughout, so there’s barely projection or support throughout. It’s a stylistic choice and he can sing with more tone, he’s just not. Again, I wouldn’t recommend this. By B3 ~ D4, you meant B2, right? Because if not, then that’s like 3 notes. The range is very close though if you mean B2, it’s actually a semitone higher so C3 ~ D4 is the range that I hear in the song.

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  10. Can I ask. We all know that their choreography is on another level while singing. Can I ask, who is the most stable on stage? The one who can conduct his own concert someday? The vocal line I mean. And we also know that they have a weak vocal line compared to others but who is most likely to improve fast? In terms of tone production, support. etc?

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    1. What do you mean most stable? As in able to sing while dancing? I don’t know because singing while dancing has little to do with vocal technique and a lot more to do with stamina. Improving fast? That depends on them, not my judgment.

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  11. Maybe as they said jimin isnt stable live at all , and accused V of not being stable live too while he was growling or singing out of his range …
    I don’t know what he/she wants u to say …interesting …able to conduct his own concert ? Oh

    BTW ahmin , did u hear Japanese version of blood sweat and tears ? Why does V sound so good SO good in it , better than the Korean ? Is it about pronunciation ? Some Japanese said his pronunciation was really good but his voice was really different …

    And he improved on singing stigma? But is singing stigma or make him growl or sing outside his range healthy for him ? Does it damage his vocal cords , these recent days , growling seems to be harder for him ..
    Is his approach to stigma became better ? Like i know u said it is not improvement , but still the approach itself ?

    Thanks

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      1. Does hurt his voice though ? Growling or singing outside his range or even straining in stigma
        As for blood sweat and tears ..did u hear the Japanese version ??!…why does his voice sound so much better than Korean , is it about the pronunciation ?

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      2. Well yes of course. Strain damages the vocal cords. I don’t know, I haven’t heard it. Why don’t you send a link? I doubt the pronunciation would be the reason specifically.

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  12. This comment is going to be super out of place. Please pardon my English, it’s not my first language. I’m not a singer, but I’m a classically trained pianist so reading music analyses for different forms of music is really interesting to me. I think some people misunderstand ratings or analyses, because at the end of the day to the listener it’s a very emotional thing. Technical ranking is important but it’s not everything. If the listener feels something from the performer’s piece then it has done its job. Ranking performers based on technique is sometimes hard and will never please everyone; it’s very objective and clinical. It’s useful, but at the end of the day it’s not meant to be consulted before you decide to choose who your favourite singer is. For example, my favourite pianist is Zimmerman, some major musicians might even agree and consider him insurmountable, but not all would agree with that, even if I laid it out as objectively as possible. It’s art, it’s a good thing that people are so passionate about it, both subjectively and objectively. I myself have done over 15 years of exams and performances, been given grades that have shifted and changed depending on the examiner, been upset by some responses, been overjoyed by others. At the end of the day you can never really rank art accurately when the most important aspect (emotional effect) is different from person to person.

    (I only posted this big comment here because I really enjoy the colour of V’s voice, I love the pitch because I can hear it in my stomach, I don’t know how to express that properly in English. I googled him and found this page and I thought the analysis was really interesting, please keep doing what you’re doing, it’s fascinating to read!)

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    1. Awww thank you! Again love your comment and completely agree. This blog is not a blog to help you decide who your favorite singer is, only a blog to help those who wish to learn more about and their favorite vocalists. So I completely agree. Also your English is great!

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      1. I’m not talking about technique at all
        I’m talking like he sound different ..I don’t know how to put it ? This is for me different than the Korean version ..
        But if u say so ..

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  13. I know almost nothing about vocal technique but this was so interesting to read and it made me learn quite a lot about it so thank you !
    Also, I was wondering if you knew some songs where V sings without lowering his larynx ? It’s a weird question I know but I am curious to see the difference between his voice when he sings with a low larynx and his natural tone. I have been curious because his “talking” voice and his “singing” voice don’t sound that much different to me. ^^”

    Please reply only if you can I don’t want to bother you. x) Thank you again !

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    1. Awww I’m so glad! Actually it’s rare to hear him singing a whole song without lowering his larynx, I’d say there are moments in songs but a whole song? I don’t think he’s ever done that. He kind of talks lowering his larynx too, actually. It’s a very vivid habit for him.

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      1. Ooooh, sorry I should have probably asked for some moments instead of a whole song. x) I was curious mostly because I love his voice so much and knowing he lowers his larynx almost all the time and therefore alters the sound of his natural tone makes me wonder whether I fell for a “fake” voice or not. It’s really silly lol Thus I’m super curious to hear his natural voice.
        Thank you for replying ! I really learned a lot about notes mostly and voice types, the notion of support is still a little vague to me, but I have been trying to inform myself on that too. It’s really interesting x)

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      2. Actually for Hug Me, he is mostly singing with a neutral larynx. For the new song 4 AM, he is mostly singing with a lowered larynx. Oh it’s okay! It takes time to get used to these new concepts! ^ ^

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      3. Then everything is solved lol, I love his voice in Hug Me (especially the verses though) the most haha, thank you for telling me, you’re so sweet ! ^^

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      1. All of them are singing in between C5 and C6. V hit C6, everybody else was lower than that. I can’t watch right now, so I’m speaking out of memory.

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  14. Thanks when you can watch the video please can you tell me the note that jin is singing? And that’s all.
    Keep going with your hard work you are doing great

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  15. Hello again~

    At what point does Jimin start straining in falsetto? (My guess is around B4/C5/C#5)
    Looking at the comments, I feel really upset because like a good chunk of this video is straight vocal abuse and everyone is acting as if it’s a good thing (not that I can blame them). The members of BTS say they want to last as long as Shinhwa but how can you do that if you screw up your voice in your 20s????
    Your hard work is not unappreciated, thanks again!!!!!

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    1. Like his falsetto showing ACTUAL strain? Like there’s no support, but up to C5 there’s very little tension. C#5 is where I’d say it’s really more like strain and closed.

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  16. Jimin recently said in an interview that he wants to take 3 months out of his schedules with BTS to get vocal lessons as if he was in a training camp. Do you think that could help him, or does the period need to be longer to make a difference?

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    1. wow that is great. he does show us that he is a serious singer. i hope he met the right person to teach him singing

      pssst is it you ahmin who will teach jimin?

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    2. [Just a passer-by] I’m not sure if that’s possible as they’re coming bak soon… But anyway I REALLY HOPE HE CAN GET A DECENT VOCAL COACH. Please don’t follow the coach of Produce 101. The One would be perfect.
      [I’m not vocal expert] But I think 3 months, even a year, might be and might not be enough because that depends on whether the coach is teaching correct concepts and ways of singing, plus the ability of Jimin to undo his bad vocal habits and to actually consistently sing in a correct form.
      I’m now half-happy and half-very-worried because of the choice of vocal coach *sob*

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  17. (sorry not a native english speaker) Hi ! I know nothing about vocal techniques and that kind of things so i’m happy to learn about it on this website so thank you !
    I’m now confused because of the analyses of Jungkook and V or even the comments below ! XD
    I understand that V and Jungkook or even Jimin and Jin have some problems or weakness with their vocals but that doesn’t mean that they are bad singers right ?? For me they all have beautiful voices so that makes me sad when some people said that they are bad singers and bla bla :/ and because you are the expert 🙂 can you tell me your opinion ? Thank you again you are really helpful with your blogs and videos on youtube !!

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    1. Hi dear! No dont worry! English is not my first language either! Haha well what does “bad singer” mean to you? Because we have the ratings but I’m not sure what your definition of that would be. They do have beautiful voices, they simply lack the technique to be called skilled vocalists.

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  18. link removed

    hi! i came across this post on tumblr recently and i was wondering what you thought of it. it seems to contradict a lot of what you have said before and i was curious if you agreed or disagreed.

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    1. Someone already asked about this today actually.
      “I think that this person is a fan with some limited knowledge of singing who can recognize registers and placement but not support or slightly more advanced aspects of singing. Jin does not support, he sings entirely through his throat and often has tension even as low as C4, which for a tenor could hardly make him a better vocalist than the maknae line, as she said. He does have a beautiful tone but that’s not the point.”

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  19. Ahmin, I’m on fire.
    http://aminoapps.com/p/43ipp4
    http://aminoapps.com/p/4txxzl
    http://aminoapps.com/p/6ymhqh
    (You should probably open this on your phone)
    This person listed you as a source for the first link. They are spreading lies and misinformation. I am so angry that my hands are shaking. I know you don’t have an Amino account, so if you wish to respond to this, I could screenshot your answer and post it over there. This person’s posts have thousands of likes, they’re going to post another one soon; I didn’t say anything at first, but when I saw that they had listed you as a source I was livid.

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      1. What was the conclusion to this then? I was going to talk to them and btw.. I appreciate you defending us, I really do, but please try to do it in a way that’s perhaps less aggressive or less attack-y. I think it’s better than making people look and feel kind of attacked.

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  20. (Please excuse me I should post this under Future Analysis instead of here)
    It’s interesting that J-Hope demonstrated his head voice several times. As far as I remember, every time he sings in his upper register (not frequent enough for any analysis though) it’s in head voice, although unsupported. That include a clip which somebody once asked you for an F5 that JH hit in the ‘opera version’ of (I can’t rmb the song haha) and in BTS GAYO Track 14 when he sang I Will Always Love You.
    I believe he isn’t trained to acquire that because if he was, then most of the vocal line probably would also be able to sing in head voice/ more frequently. I also believe that sometimes head voice can come naturally for some without training. What do you think?

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    1. Oops I totally forgot the links:

      ‘Operatic’ version of N.O., bet you remember this (0:46)

      GAYO Track 14 (0:42)
      http://www.vlive.tv/video/29624/playlist/27766

      I don’t remember where else exactly I’ve heard him singing in head voice, sorry for not able to provide more examples

      One more thing, as a vocally untrained person his head voice comes out in quite a pure tone without much air in it, it really impresses me haha

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    2. Actually since he’s never going to be analyzed for his singing and this is a BTS analysis page, posting here is fine. I am just not sure what to tell you, cause you’re making observations but not really asking a question. I mean you’re right, head voice can come naturally. It’s not like people to default to falsetto if they’re untrained, it’s just most people are either shy or whisper, or they copy what they hear. Perhaps he copied people who had head voices when growing up, so he developed a head voice instead of a falsetto. Support is more important than what register you’ve emulated growing up.

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      1. Haha yes I wasn’t really asking a question, my only ‘question’ was actually ‘whether head voice can come naturally to some people’. Yup I was simply posting something that I’ve observed and see if that would start a small discussion here 🙂 You have already answered what I wanted to know, i.e. it is in head voice and it can come naturally.
        (If only we can develop support just by listening and imitating somebody who sings with support, it’ll be so much easier…)
        Thanks for answering!

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  21. I read somewhere here in your blog saying that Key of SHINee is an average baritone vocalist. If so, then Key is better than V am I right? And may I know what is Key’s supported range?

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