G2 ~ Bb5 (3 Octaves, 1 note and 1 semitone)
Eb3/E3 ~ Eb4/E4
- The most relaxed singing technique out of all tenors in BTS
- Pitch is relatively good when not doing vocal runs
- Tends to favor falsetto over mixed voice, minimizing vocal strain
- Shallow support is present to an extent in his singing
- His lower range maintains sufficient connection down to Eb3
- His middle voice maintains a relaxed approach up to Eb4/E4
- Falsetto can be relaxed at times
- Transitions into falsetto are relatively well done
Points for Improvement
- Tends to favor style over technique, completely limiting the development of his voice
- Tends to sing with a lot of breathiness in tone, not allowing his vocal cords to be connected completely
- Lower range is often very soft and whispered, lacking developing
- Mixed voice is very underdeveloped, often has to falsetto when unable to mix properly
- His larynx raises early on after his first passaggio, around F4
- Tends to place his voice in his nose and sound very whiny
- Unable to support with consistency, breathing is almost completely neglected
- Falsetto can sometimes be flat due to too much airiness
- Vocal runs are often messy and pitchy
- Unable to use a head voice with support
- Lower register: Most of his lower range is underdeveloped as he doesn’t generally tend to sing too low or too high. His chest voice maintains projection below Eb3, but support is only present down to Eb3. Below that, his voice lacks clarity in tone and becomes quieter.
- Mixed register: His mixed voice is mostly on the head-dominant side, as he sings with a soft approach most of the time. Very early on in range he starts to sing with a tight throat and a high larynx, even as low as F4.
- Upper register: In a way, his most developed register. His falsetto is where he seems most comfortable, as he tends to switch to falsetto very early on in his range. Nonetheless, this register still lacks proper support and development overall.
Jungkook shows that most of his influences come from singing R&B music and that’s where he seems to be most comfortable in terms of genre. As such, he takes a liking to adding his own musical ideas to songs and they’re usually in the form of vocal runs. He has the tendency to add them in many occasions, as he seems to have confidence in this area of his voice. However, due to his young age and to an extent lack of patience, there is a lack of clarity and development of his agility. When it comes to the flexibility of his voice, Jungkook actually possesses the correct muscle memory and rhythmic bounce to clearly sing through different notes in simple trills, as long as they’re short and simple, as heard in “I Need a Girl.” Unfortunately, he tends to add overly complicated runs to many of his vocal performances, which lack precision and accuracy overall. His vocal runs often sound rushed, as he’s unable to sing the notes as quickly as he needs to. Thus instead of taking the time to practice vocal runs slowly first and then speeding them up to the correct speed, his runs often sound like they’re mostly improvised and thus not carefully thought-through. The result is usually sloppy runs that lack a clear idea of key center, as he adds too many notes that don’t necessarily fit in terms of pitch. This can be heard in many occasions, such as in “Sofa“, “Paper Hearts“, “뻔한 멜로디“, “Boyfriend“, “눈, 코, 입“, “Love is not Over“, “You’re My“, “Miss Right” and “If You.”
Jungkook debuted in 2013 as the main vocalist of Bangtan Boys, more commonly known by international fans as BTS. He is one of the four members of the main vocal line, three tenors and one baritone. The group debuted as mostly a hip-hop based group where most of the focus of their music is on rapping as opposed to singing. As such, a lot of their songs are mostly rapped verses with hook choruses sung by the four members of the vocal line. Jungkook’s voice stands out with a very smooth and mellow timbre. His voice is light and bright, as well as very soft in quality which is often enhanced by many of his stylistic choices. Although not often singing very high, his voice lies in a generally higher range and he would most likely be classified as a light lyric tenor.
The lower part of his chest voice is often neglected and not truly showcased through BTS’ music. As their songs are focused mostly on hooks for the vocalists, the range they’re written in is usually narrow in order to keep the listener hooked in. Thus Jungkook is unable to explore a wide part of his range when singing BTS’ music. Most of the time he stays within a relatively comfortable range and doesn’t sing below D3. This has caused him to often lose projection of his voice when he does need to sing anywhere below an Eb3. As low as E3 and Eb3, he often sounds comfortable as his vocal cords are able to come together and his voice projects without much trouble, as heard in “Sofa“, “Love is not Over” and “샤방샤방.” However, as soon as he sings below Eb3, his vocal cords lack the strength to remain together and his chest voice starts to become breathier and quieter. This can be heard with the B2’s in “Paper Hearts“, “Fools” and G2’s in “나그대에게 모두 드리리.”
Due to his stylistic choices, Jungkook often employs a very unique approach to his singing. He never tries to paint himself as a powerhouse vocalist and uses the natural smoothness of his voice to his advantage. Instead of mixing and belting high, he often sings softly and with a lot of breathiness in tone throughout most of his range. Not only that, but in order to maintain the smoothness and softness in his singing style, he often chooses to sing with his falsetto as opposed to mixing and thus has yet to create the correct muscle memory and development of his mixed voice. For the most part, his mixed voice is quite light in tone and lacks power. His mixing technique relies on a more head-dominant approach and a lot less on his chest voice, which helps him maintain a smooth soft tone overall. Stylistically, it fits exactly the way he intends it to.
However due to him being unable to develop his mixed voice properly and by using too much breathiness in his singing, his larynx tends to be raised much earlier than a more developed tenor would. He actually often mixes quite low and is not known for being a very high belter. Most of the time his mix only goes up to F#4 in their repertoire, only occasionally singing up G4 and G#4. When he sings up to Eb4 and E4, he sounds mostly relaxed and is able to maintain some support, even if it may be shallow and lack depth. However anywhere above E4, his larynx raises and his throat starts to become tight, which results in a mostly whiny tone production. His voice is unable to escape the tension, causing him to sound thin and closed above E4. This can be heard when contrasting the C#4’s in “양화대교“, D4’s in “모릎“, “Fools“, Eb4’s in “See Through“, “뻔한 멜로디” and E4’s in “心中的日月“, with the F4’s in “Coffee“, “Butterfly“, “Miss Right“, F#4’s in “샤방샤방“, “Let Me Know“, “Love is Not Over” “Tomorrow“, “Lost Stars“, G4’s in “See You Again“, “눈, 코, 입“, G#4’s in “I Need U“, “잡아줘” and Bb4’s in “Bang Bang Bang“, “If You” and “Perfect Man.”
His falsetto register is, relatively speaking, his most developed register. He seems to be the most comfortable in this register and is able to transition into it much earlier in range than most tenors would. While many tenors would rather mix up to A4 at least while singing, Jungkook will opt to use falsetto even as low as F#4 while phrasing songs, as heard in “Too Much“, “모릎.” Most of the time, Jungkook choses to use a falsetto over his head voice, by maintaining his vocal cords somewhat separated and allowing air to come through, creating a breathy sound that mostly works stylistically. He is able to use a head voice as well and has done so a handful of times. However due to his inability to grasp breath support properly, even when singing in his head voice, he is unable to maintain a neutral larynx and properly supported tone production. The lack of support in his upper register usually causes him to lose control of his voice and make him sound somewhat pitchy and/or flat. His head voice is thus quite pushed and loud, lacking in control of volume, as heard with the F5’s in “Dope“, the G#5 in “Oh Happy Day!“, as well as in “See You Again” and “Lost Stars.” The highest he’s ever pushed his falsetto was the Bb5 in the high note battle amongst the BTS members.
Many of Jungkook’s issues lie solely with his lack of understanding of proper breath support and many of his stylistic choices. As addressed by Dr. Iris Stevenson, Jungkook tends to use his throat muscles a lot more than necessary and doesn’t truly allow his diaphragm to expand enough to help him support his singing. If he’d take the time to properly breathe and be more conscious of his diaphragm, he’d be able to maintain a lot more support throughout his voice and thus allowing him more freedom when singing higher. His stylistic choices often have him choose airiness, nasality and softness over powerful singing. This may work for him for the time being, but it also limits him to being able to sing in one specific genre only. Breathiness in singing is perfectly fine if it can be turned on and off at will, however for him it’s become such a habit that he has yet to develop many areas of his voice. His mixed voice, head voice and chest voice all lack proper development and often sound as though they can only be sung in one specific volume output. He tends to sing quietly and smoothly only, which works stylistically but not in every genre. Although Dr. Stevenson addressed his breathing issues, one session alone won’t fix a bad habit he’s created for years.
Although it may be true that Jungkook’s overall voice is not fully developed in terms of technique, this does not take away from the natural qualities he possesses as a vocalist. With BTS’ music, the focus is not on powerful belting and extremely well developed vocalists. Instead their focus is a lot more on smooth and soft singing within a relatively narrow range, which Jungkook delivers very effectively. He may not be the most technical vocalist out there, but the way he sings works perfectly for the type of music he currently sings. When comparing him to the other two tenors of BTS, Jin and Jimin, Jungkook is the most relaxed out of the three. Jimin’s singing tends to be very tight due to issues similar to Jungkook’s, but also a lot of tongue tension. On the other hand, Jin sings with a lot of throat tension even with a relatively low range for a tenor.
Thus it is actually quite clear why Jungkook would be their main vocalist. He is the tenor with the most control of his voice and who’s most relaxed when singing and even though V may be able to grasp breath support slightly better than Jungkook, BTS’ music is not written for a baritone voice. Their music generally stays within the F3 ~ G4 range, which is a relatively comfortable range for a tenor but actually quite challenging for a baritone to constantly be singing in. Thus it makes sense that Jungkook is their main vocalist, as he’s the one who’s most comfortable within the range their music is written in. For the future of his career as a vocalist, Jungkook would need to undergo training for basic singing technique in order to improve his singing. However that would be necessary if he were to take a different road musically and change his singing genre and style drastically. As it is right now, his singing style may be limited but it is sufficient for his chosen repertoire as he stays generally within a comfortable range and doesn’t often abuse his voice by singing outside of his supported range.
Jungkook’s main idea of musicianship usually derives from his idea of the R&B genre, where he tries to add his own musical ideas to songs in the form of vocal runs. As previously addressed, his vocal cords lack the full muscle memory and control to execute his musical ideas as accurately as he intends them to, which usually results in a sloppy pitchy delivery overall, such as the runs in “If You.” However when it comes to other aspects of his style, he has a good sense of knowing when to soften his voice and when to blend his voice with others. Since he usually sings with a softer and mellower tone, he allows his voice to blend more easily with others in harmonies, as heard in “Some” as well as in “You’re My.”
Label (Type of Vocalist)
S vocalists: Stylistic Vocalists
C Vocalists: Commercial Vocalists
Vocal Range Video(s)
Video by: Riki Kudo
Best Vocal Performance(s)
Analyzed by Ahmin (Kitsunemale)
632 thoughts on “BTS’ Vocal Analysis: Jungkook”
i think i dont sing harshly i just tend to use vocal fry a bit. i also do vocal warmups for like 10 minutes but that does’nt even help.and did you mean i drink adequate water by 1st question?
Yes like enough to hydrate every day. Mhmm id have to heat you.
I dont want to be heated 🙂 lol umm i drink average 2 litres water a day so that may not be problem or is it? Also i try to keep my stomach area expanded to control my breath but my voice sounds very breathy.Btw thanks for your quick reply
Then the breathiness could be to blame but I’d still have to hear you.
umm but where should I post ? can I post here or on YouTube?
Here is fine.
Hi , how can i train my music ears better , sometime my ears are naughty because they won’t listen correctly the pitch that i heard :((
What did you wanna train them for exactly?
Hi! I have several questions regarding Jungkook.
1) I have a friend who claims that Jungkook haven’t improved at all when it comes to vocal recently, and that he is even getting worse. Is that true? She says that it’s because he has no will to get better while on the contrary Jimin and Jin are doing way better because “they actually want to get better” (yeah she doesn’t like JK too much I think that’s why I prefer asking)
2) Is the margin between Taehyung and Jungkook really that important? Should Taehyung have been main vocal? Or is it just because TH is a baritone that he couldn’t?
3) How come Jungkook sounds really good live ? Is it unrelated to technique?
Oh and I know that you’ve said that taehyung couldnt be main vocal because of the type of song they go with, but if they had to go for another kind of sound? Should taehyung take the chorus?
1. I can’t deny nor confirm wether he’s improving. I personally haven’t heard a change in his technique, but I haven’t heard it from any of them actually. But to say any of them are regressing is definitely pushing it.
2. It’s not a big enough difference for it to matter to me personally.
3. Sounding really good is a very vague thing to say. Some people may claim that Suzy, Britney Spears, Madonna, etc sound good live. What sounds good or appealing to you may not be technically skilled singing and that’s fine. Taste is different from skill.
4. If a song is sung in a key written for a baritone voice, so that’d work for him.
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Wow thanks for the quick reply! Oh and by “good live” I rather meant really stable? I don’t get how he can move around so much but still sound like that. Except for Jin who doesn’t dance as intensely when singing, I don’t think the other members can quite do the same. Fans jokingly says that he has more than two lungs, but I wanted to know if there was a reason?
Again .. I have a whole video about this vague usage of the word stable, which is in no way meant to demean you but hopefully it can help clarify things for you.
I wanna say that I think you should update this since he’s gotten better
Do explain how/in what way, and I will be sure to update.
Hi Ahmin! i don’t know if anybody’s been told you this but since it still don’t work i guess i’m just gonna tell you anyway. In the analysis, you put link to Dr. Iris Stevenson’s evaluation to Jungkook, however the video is no longer available due to copyright issue. But i found similar video https://bit.ly/2GGy7ew so you may want to replace the link. I think that video is important since many people (or tbh, army) tend to say:
1. Jungkook sings flawlessly despite the fact that an expert like her said he used his throat muscles too much that his diaphragm didn’t show proper support;
2. Jungkook’s technique is more developed than Tae.
I myself is an army and that’s why i want them to be better for their own sake, so seeing people behave like this really sadden me.
Thank you so much.
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Hello! Thank you for all the great analyses you’ve worked on, I feel like I’ve gotten to learn a little more about singing and have developed my understanding of music a little through these analyses.
I was wondering what thoughts you had about Jungkook’s most recent cover, specifically around 2:30, 2:45-3:00, and 3:22-3:32: http://btsblog.ibighit.com/377
Seems like slightly less breathiness in some of those notes?
Also would love to hear your thoughts on Euphoria – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4OfWQb7GNA
Seems like something is a bit different from before, maybe a bit of maturation with how he approaches notes? Not sure, but thought I’d ask!
It’s quite nice, it’s connected and unlike his usual breathier and shallower approach. Now, it’s not something that he’s never shown before, this range is fairly comfortable for him, except for the peaked G4’s after 3:22. It’s a bit better placed.
I’m kinda sorry for using this link of Burn The Stage since alot of people pay for the content but I happened to be curious about a certain thing. In episode-4 from about 05:06 we see Jimin practicing and Jungkook giving a bit of advice to him. It goes on roughly till 06:04 so it’d be great if you could check it out. Is Jungkook giving proper advice there? And if he is do you think he would be quick to grasp a better technique since he seems to have a bit of an understanding? I’m sorry if this sounds random 😂.
Here’s the link btw: https://www.rulu.co/episodes/bts-burn-stage-1×4/
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Hi! Can you tell me about Seokjin a little more? He’s so underrated and most fans don’t do him justice. I would love an analysis of him, but if you can’t do that, please tell me about it here.
I noticed he has improved, since he was someone who clearly wasn’t looking forward to sing as he wanted to be an actor. His performances in Awake and his high notes in Crystal Snow…
Please, make a video about Seokjin “lack of good singing” on debunking myth, if possible, at least! Or tell me here!
Could you be more specific as to what you wanna know? I’m not sure where I should start.
he/she is probably asking for a brief review of jin’s vocal technique.
Hey Ahmin! Hope you’ve been well 🙂
I found this guy named Chris Hart who makes Japanese music, I was wondering if you could give a listen to this song…
One of the things I hear is lots of nasality. Aside from that, is there any support? His Bb4s sound tight, but what about the other notes in the chorus?
Not to be that person, but I think this video should be on a different page. And I know the admins have a policy on non-kpop vocalists, in the faqs page. And not to be nagging, but time stamps would be very helpful. The admins are busy and not making them have to go through the song at random for Bb4s and below would be ideal. So keep this in mind for next time.
By no means an admin or an expert, just using my prior experience from listening to other vocalists on the blog and comparing them to him. I hear tightness from G#4 and up. The A4s and Bb4 had high larynxes to me. He also pushes a bit, which distorts his sound a bit. I have no clue how intentional or unintentional it is. It happened on almost all his G4s and one or two F4s. His G4s still sound supported, but pushed. His G#4s are sketchy because they all happen on really tight vowels, the e and aye vowel shapes. Sometimes he pushed them out on the aye vowels, and at other times they felt like high larynxes. He’s also not creating enough space in the back of the throat to let the sound flow out, and he doesn’t drop his jaw low enough to resonate. In summary, pushes a bit overall, good up to G4, sketchy G#4s, probably strained or pushed, and high larynx afterwards. Again, I am not an expert.
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Hello, thank you for your great analysis! You work hard.
I was wondering what you think of Jungkook and Jin’s vocals in the very beginning of the video? Have they shown improvement or stayed the same?
Thank you for this. I’m quite satisfied with your review and actually quite agree with you. Even in his lastest song Euphoria he tends to lack control at some places. In the lastet Japanese album Face Yourself , in Don’t leave me song, I can actually hear his breathiness so much at one point and it actually messes up with the beat. Same in Euphoria, it overlaps the sound of actual beats and hence the song lacks overall clarity.
As for other members, could you please do a review on Jimin’s serendipity? I really think he has improved and would like to read your take on his voice over the years.
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Could you give a brief analysis of them here?
Ahmin, you there? You haven’t been answering much these days but anyways I’ll leave a question here.
In Love Maze, is that a vocal run by Jungkook from 0:30 to 0:34?
Here’s the link: https://youtu.be/nJQW-3QRV0U
It’s a short one so the timestamp may not be accurate. If it is a vocal run is it executed properly since you’ve mentioned that Jungkook’s runs are often sloppy? I think it’s something related to vocal agility but I’m not sure if it a vocal run 👀.
Also, I found this on Twitter. Is this even possible?
I can answer cause it’s brief. To me it’s sloppy but the notes are right, he’s hitting them that quickly but not at the center of pitch and so he’s sliding and it’s a bit messy.
It’s been a while since you’ve answered questions here. Thanks for the reply 😊.
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Hey, after reading your analysis of Jungkook and V, I want to know your opinions on these four videos down below! I love your thoughtful observations and explanations, so I’m really curious on your reactions. I’ve speculated the reasons but I want some confirmations from you. Some of the comments down below are borderline rude and I don’t agree with them, but I still understood the videos’ points. I still want a professional view on it. Please reply soon!
So these are comparison videos? Hi there! Thank you for reading and all! Unfortunately since your question is rather vague, I’m not sure exactly how to answer or what answer you’re looking for. What I can say is that some of these, like the high notes in Stigma and the oh happy day performance have been addressed in the comment sections and even in the actual analysis. The thing is none of them can support a note in head voice consistently, so to expect them to support anything in the fifth octave properly isn’t realistic. Now V’s head voice notes in Stigma are higher in his voice than in Jungkook’s voice, it’s like comparing a guy to a girl, a violin to a cello, the instrument is different so even if they can hit the same note, they feel different in their voices. But Jungkook’s examples were executed better than V’s, but neither are necessarily relaxed, supported nor healthy ways of vocalizing. You can hear both singing Ha which means they’re pushing air through the H consonant before connecting the vocal cords, which means they’re overly relying on air pressure before singing with proper support. It’s all strain, different qualities and degrees of it.
Omg, thank you so much for this thoughtful comment! I wasn’t sure you were going to answer because you seemed like a busy man.
I don’t know why the videos are messed up(I think it’s because the link I used was in a playlist). I’m sorry you have to re-answer questions, I know that must be very tiring.
To be more specific, I was wondering about your thoughts on Jungkook teaching Taehyung how to improve his high note technique. Do you think Jungkook was giving him proper advice? Or do you think it would do more harm than good? (The first video)
Also, I was wondering if Jungkook’s stamia(since he is an athlete) was the reason why he is so “stable” live. Like in the second video below(this song was performed near the end of the concert and after many songs), Jungkook seemed to be the only one singing clearly compared to rest of the members without sounding out of breath.
I hope this is much clearer than my previous comment and that the videos work this time. Thank you for all the hard work and contributions you do to this website!
Hello, I don’t really have a lot of hope tbh, but since this is their latest vocal-heavy performance I thought I would ask if there is any improvement for any of them.
Hi , i notice jungkook aways sing quitel low volume but high note and soft . What should i do to able to sing that style
I wanted to ask you, do you know what the highest note that Jungkook has used his mixed voice for was? And can Jimin and Jin mix higher than Kook, since he switches to falsetto early in his range? I’ve noticed that a few recent songs by BTS Jin and Jimin have done all the highest mixed voice parts (Fake Love, and Don’t Leave Me for example. I mean they don’t sound very good to me but it’s not head voice I think).
It should be in their vocal range videos but I feel like they’ve all mixed C5 before at least.
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Is jungkook considered a light chest – no chest vocal type or a flip – falsetto , vocal type
I’m sorry but what?
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he mean the vocal types this guy use, he explained those are not vocal classifications it just what vocalists do at their bridge/Pasaagio area . Jungkook is basically a mix of high layrnx and flip/falsetto
Thoughts on this? I’ve seen a lot of “trained vocalists” on twitter defending them, but I don’t know what to make of them. Are those “grittier techniques” (if they mean what I think they mean) even good for their throats?
I think they…I don’t know, a lot of people have some degree of knowledge of basic things, but I am one of those people who hates this thing people do online. I don’t argue with people saying “Oh hey, you’re wrong. They’re great and amazing, I am a trained vocalist.” Like, you don’t need to say that you’re a trained vocalist, no need for a disclaimer. Instead just use facts, analytic details and be straight to the point. It’s like when people attack others personally in arguments. If your argument is strong, you don’t need to reaffirm yourself nor put down others in a discussion, just have a strong argument. That’s how I see it. There’s nothing I can say that they said is wrong besides saying they’re amazing in every genre they do but then again, what are their standards for amazing? In what way? They didn’t really say anything that has to do with music, which is what most people do online. So I can’t say they’re wrong or right because they don’t really say anything.
I know this comment thread is old, I actually remember reading it when you posted it, but I just ran into it again. Even though it’s been a year, I still actually remember this comment really well; especially the part where you talk about “avoiding disclaimers”. I have no idea why, but that entire piece of dialogue has really stuck with me like a good piece of advice and a reminder of what not to do when working with my clients (I’m not even a vocal trainer) and people. It’s also helped me understand, at a deeper level, what is it I often get annoyed with when speaking with certain people in my field. I appreciate the general nonchalance of the statement too, as it made seem even more genuine (i.e. this is what I do, and it works! not: here’s some preachy advice for you.). I just want to drop by and say thank you for the wonderful life advice that has stuck with me; your students must be some of the happiest people. Thank you and good luck in the future, Ahmin!
I mean what is old and what is new in this day and age anyway? lol Awww thank you, see this is something I try to live by personally because I’m tired of people bringing up personal things in arguments. They often attack others, not the point they’re making. And on top of that, they then try to bring up something about themselves to boast their argument. But like I said, if your argument is strong on its own, you wouldn’t need those other things to make it look stronger, right? So because I don’t like that people do this, I try and not do it myself either unless it’s extremely necessary. So…I mean, I’m glad it struck you as a good piece of life advice and I’m happy to hear this. Thank you so much as well for coming and letting me know, I really appreciate it! I hope you keep doing a great job in your field as well!
I kind of sound like a girl and my vocal range is between F3-G5-C7 am I a tenor or slto
How old are you?
I really think you need to reanalyze Jungkook because I truly feel like he has an inaccurate vocal grade/analysis. Even recently Tae himself said he believes jk is the best vocalist in kpop, which maybe a stretch, but jk has shown to be the most consistent with his pitch, control, and agility within bangtan. Their live performances shows he has the most stable breath support and the most accurate pitch within bangtan, which is a show of his vocal technique. He goes out of tune very rarely in comparison to the other vocalists in bangtan, and all of that requires vocal technique. Just because he’s not a powerhouse vocalist and his voice sounds more commercial does not make him a lesser vocalist. I’ve taken lessons from classical vocal teachers and modern vocal teachers for over 5 years now, so I know all about technique, and the consistency in jk’s vocals shows he has more technique than this analysis gives him credit for. Tae may have a less commercial voice than JK and at his peaks can do amazing things with his voice, but he isn’t as consistent like jk is. I really think you should watch many recent live performances of bangtan and consider a re-analysis for Jungkook.
This analysis removed it’s “grading” system which seems to be what you’re most worried about here. So if you could kindly explain what part of the content of the analysis seems to be inaccurate in anyway considering the explanations and video examples, that would better show the need for Jungkook to be reanalyzed. A commercial vocalist isn’t a lesser vocalist, it’s exactly what you said. It’s not a powerhouse vocalist, therefore he wouldn’t get the belter label for example. You said he barely goes out of tune and as far as I recall the analysis hardly focused on his pitch? It focused a whole lot more on many other aspects of his vocal technique which you did not mention so again, if you could address parts of the analysis instead of being kind of general that would be better for me to see your points. You say that you know vocal technique, then there’s no need to mention what V said or didn’t say, as that’s irrelevant to your argument since you’re talking about what you know of vocal technique. I keep up with vocalists I analyze and I’m afraid to say I haven’t heard a change in how he sings at all, his vocal habits have remained fairly consistently the same. One thing I don’t like and I don’t mean this as an attack, is when people bring up what other people said or their years of vocal lessons. I don’t ever go into an argument like “hey I’m a vocal instructor with 10 years of learning music experience, you should listen to me.” because honestly that just kinda makes me look a bit douchey? Not saying you are, but I feel like I would come off that way if I said that. Why is it necessary for me to say that? It’s not at all. All I need is to have strong points to back up my argument, that’s what’s truly important. If you come claiming stuff but your points are vague and general, it feels more like an argument of he said she said then actual vocal analyzing. You know what I mean? A lot of this comment is “Jungkook has better aspects while singing and dancing at the same compared to the other BTS members” but this analysis isn’t “is Jungkook better than the rest of BTS” but instead it’s a breakdown of how he uses his voice which you did not address at all. You’re asking for an analysis to be redone without addressing the actual analysis in question or the points it raises.
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Jungkook’s been doing this one thing (around 0:13 & 0:35 i believe) at their concerts recently which i feel sounds different from the way he used to sing this certain part before.
The above link is from their more recent concert while the link below is from their concert at LA which was a while back. A similar part comes at 1:16 but here he’s hitting that note differently.
It’s pretty clear that he’s trying something different but is he approaching the note in a better way or was it good back then? I don’t know if it’s executed properly (esp. the 2nd one) but i’m wondering if he’s trying something good or bad for his vocals. Jungkook happened to get injured recently so he hasn’t been dancing and has been focusing more on his singing these days. In a recent live he talked about how he felt he was lacking since he didn’t get as many vocal lessons and mentioned about wanting to improve and about experimenting with different techniques. It’s kinda cool how he talked about his habit mentioned here and how one session wouldn’t be able to change that. Makes me wonder if he read this analysis ^^. Hopefully my question will be answered.
So here I am, I remembered to leave this comment so that I could respond to it later! I’m going to first listen to the older one before I listen to the newer one. Since September to October isn’t a huge gap in time, I’m not sure we’re going to find much of a difference but let me first take a listen! I’m glad he is talking about improving himself and I surely hope he does. I don’t believe anybody should ever put themselves down and feel they’re not enough, but instead they should feel as though they could always get even better.
I listened to the studio version, then the other two. The September one and the studio are fairly similar, he’s using a light falsetto register, placed more towards the head. The way he’s approaching the note in October isn’t mixed either. It’s still in his upper register, but I’d call it more of a nasal head voice. It’s not a huge difference, it’s less airy, it’s projecting a bit more and it carries more brightness. To say it’s better or not is a bit hard, because it lacks support either way. He is pushing slightly more, he’s pressing his vocal cords slightly too much with the head voice whereas the falsetto one is a bit more relaxed. It’s not a big enough difference to say much, to say it’s an improvement or if it’s good or not. I’d call it a stylistic preference and I’d only hope for him to just keep his vocal cords connected with less force.
Hopefully my comment gets posted this time 😥.
Jungkook’s been doing this one thing (around 0:13 & 0:35 i believe) at their concerts recently which i feel sounds different from the way he used to sing this certain part before.
The above link is from their more recent concert while the link below is from their concert at LA which was a while back. A similar part comes at 1:16 but here he’s hitting that note differently.
It’s pretty clear that he’s trying something different but is he approaching the note in a better way or was it good back then? I don’t know if it’s executed properly (esp. the 2nd one) but i’m wondering if he’s trying something good or bad for his vocals. Jungkook happened to get injured recently so he hasn’t been dancing and has been focusing more on his singing these days. In a recent live he talked about how he felt he was lacking since he didn’t get as many vocal lessons and mentioned about wanting to improve and about experimenting with different techniques. It’s kinda cool how he talked about his habit mentioned here and how it would take time to change that. Makes me wonder if he read this analysis (less likely since it’s in English but fun to think about) ^^.
Here’s a video of their performance at Berlin for more reference: https://twitter.com/JK_Glitters/status/1053298996347834368?s=19
Any noticeable change to you?
Your comment was already posted actually I just haven’t had time to listen. Honestly I wasn’t going to respond because I haven’t been responding to video questions for a while now but this is something I wanted to know too.
Hello. Would you please check out Jungkook’s and Charlie’s collab at MGA and evaluate it? What do you think about Jungkook’s vocal there? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vEMm_EoTp4
I’m sorry but I haven’t really been answering video questions lately, and the few I have are specific with time stamps. So sorry.
The song is only something over 2 minutes so please check it if you have time.
Hi admins, how are you doing? ^^
I’m wondering if Jungkook’s E5 here is a head voice or mixed note?
Thanks a lot 😀
Oh It’s at 4:07
Really hard to tell, it sounds kind of mixed but I’m not sure.
Thank you so much ^^ I’m also not sure about that!
How about his C#5 at 3:44 here? Mixed note or head voice?
Hello，in your early blog u have said that u won’t rank vocalists or try to say someone is better than anybody else. But here still mentioned “most strongest “or”second strongest “,even write “If V were to sing the same song as Jungkook for an example, but the key was changed to suit his voice as a baritone, he’d be able to handle singing above his first passaggio slightly better than Jungkook would”….it’s funny because it’s so subjective by ur own emotions and speculation without any evidences.I know u got lots of prejudices to jungkook no matter we give u more live performances and it will never change ur attitude ,also I don’t want to argue who is better anymore,so plz delete those subjective analysis and plz do not criticize one person in order to praise another one .Sorry my English is not very good but plz understand.
I’m not sure how to respond to this comment for a few reasons. Is this a question? I want to respond with a short comment, but I’m actually not good at that so I’m not going to hold back and will address your whole comment sentence by sentence. Since you took the time to write this comment, it’s only common courtesy of me to respond accordingly and adequately. I ask that you also take your time to read the response because I am tired of this.
“in your early blog u have said that u won’t rank vocalists or try to say someone is better than anybody else.”
I don’t know what you mean by in “your early blog” perhaps you meant the front page. Since you don’t really seem to know us, then I might have to give context to a few things. Previously on this blog and when this analysis was written, we followed a criteria system that did rate vocalists and there was a ranking. At that point in time, it made sense to me to follow that as a guideline, so the writing style of the analysis reflects that kind of criteria. Ever since, that ranking has been removed because as I grew older and matured, I started to feel like the ranking style of the blog interfered with my original intention of having a blog that focuses on teaching those who want to learn more about vocal technique. UNFORTUNATELY a lot of people hardly understand or read the analyses and instead focus solely on the ratings. That frustrates me as a vocal instructor and someone who only wishes to educate and share my passion for vocal technique. Putting down other vocalists was never my intention and is not something I enjoy doing.
“,even write “If V were to sing the same song as Jungkook for an example, but the key was changed to suit his voice as a baritone, he’d be able to handle singing above his first passaggio slightly better than Jungkook would”…”
Yes, I did write that. Because when this analysis was written we still liked to address the strongest vocalists within a group. I never enjoyed comparing vocalists from different groups and saying X is better than Y, because what’s the point? But within a group, it would make sense in context to compare vocalists. Now, it feels like you quoted this because it compared Jungkook and V directly, but I don’t think you understood what I meant at all. Do you know a passaggio is? Do you know what changing the key of a song means? I’ll put this in perspective for you so you understand what I meant.
A baritone’s first passaggio is Bb3/B3, whereas a tenor’s is somewhere around D4/Eb4. A tenor like Jungkook could sing a song perhaps like let’s say Fools by Troye Sivan. The range of that song I believe is C3 to D4. Troye Sivan is a baritone, so that’s a fairly comfortable range for him. For a tenor like Jungkook, singing that song in that range is very easy because it’s low for him. It’s like asking a woman to sing any guy song. A note that in a man’s voice is high, for a woman is not that high at all. The same concept applies within genders. Males have voices that are lower and higher than others. Now if we transpose that song from the original baritone key to a tenor key, the range would be like E3 to F#4. Now for a tenor like Jungkook whose supported range ends at around E4, F#4 is outside his supported range and he’d start having tension and straining his voice even on F4. Whereas a baritone like V would sing with less tension and be able to sing up to C#4 without strain. Does this make sense to you? The point of that comparison was to illustrate the injustice people who directly compare a baritone and a tenor singing the same song in the same key are making. A baritone and a tenor have different voices, so to expect them to sing the same song in the same key is unrealistic. A baritone should sing in a key that suits his voice, and the same for a tenor. So in contrast with voice types, V would fair slightly better than Jungkook due to him being able to sing above his passaggio with less tension, even if not by a whole lot since it’s only a semitone of a difference.
“it’s funny because it’s so subjective by ur own emotions and speculation without any evidences.”
Is it funny? What’s funny? What’s subjective? What emotions? What speculation without any evidences? The analysis is full of explanations, it dives deeper into his technique, it has videos and examples of his head voice, mixed, chest voice, his lack of breathiness at times, his overly breathy technique, his strain, his support, his pitch. Is this what you call lack of evidence? Is this what you call subjective? Is this somehow funny to you?
“I know u got lots of prejudices to jungkook no matter we give u more live performances and it will never change ur attitude”
Do you know that? Do you know me at all? Cause you don’t. You don’t know me, and I am tired. I’m tired of hearing people acting like they know me when they don’t. I’m tired of being accused of being “biased” by fans. It’s a cheap, lazy excuse of a critique. I’m tired because fans of specific idols who do NOT take the time to listen to as many idols and singers as we did come to me telling me I am biased, when they are the ones who literally only know a handful of vocalists. If I had any prejudice, I wouldn’t have listened to as many videos and songs as I did to analyze Jungkook. I’d pretend like I did and not give him the time of day. I fairly analyze every vocalist in this blog, I go through videos and videos. Can you say you’ve done for anybody at all? Can you say you’ve done that for 100+ vocalists? No? Then don’t come here assuming you know me when you don’t. I don’t have ANY problem with Jungkook, or ANY singer at all for that matter. I don’t like fans though, and that I have expressed many times. Not specifically Jungkook fans, or anybody’s fans. I don’t like fandoms. I think fandoms can often be toxic, full of people who can only interact with others who share the same opinions as them and attack others for having a different opinion. For example here, you. You’re attacking me as opposed to the analysis. You’re welcome to disprove the content of the analysis, but instead of doing that you chose to address me. You came here acting you know me, when this is not a page about me. It’s an analysis. Read it and then address what you feel is wrong with the analysis. Leave me or ANYBODY out of this. This isn’t about Jungkook as a person, I don’t know him. I don’t want to attack him, I have nothing against him. This is about vocal technique ONLY. If you’re unable to differentiate a person from their profession/skill, then you shouldn’t be here. This isn’t a personal attack to Jungkook, stop focusing on the comparison and read the ACTUAL analysis.
“also I don’t want to argue who is better anymore”
I don’t either because that’s not important and is not the point of the analysis.
“so plz delete those subjective analysis”
No, I’m sorry. I will not delete an objective analysis about vocal technique because people don’t bother reading and understanding its content. I’m willing to correct what’s wrong if you prove that the content is incorrect. That’s as much as I can do, but I refuse to delete an analysis that’s in no way bashing or attacking anybody.
“plz do not criticize one person in order to praise another one”
That isn’t the point of the analysis? If Jungkook had shown better technique than V, I’d have pointed that out in the analysis. And then you wouldn’t have been upset, but V fans might have been. Now if you came here and asked to delete the part of the analysis that compares the vocalists, I would have considered that a fair and valid point. I’d have thought of a way to kind of address that, because it’s not about criticizing someone to praise someone else. It’s about explaining baritones and tenors, voice types, passaggi, vocal technique in general, and using them as examples. But your own inability to separate people from their singing and your inability to see this as it is, an objective look into vocal technique, makes it so that you can’t actually learn from it.
“Sorry my English is not very good but plz understand.”
Your English is really good actually. Might I add, someone who doesn’t speak a language well might have issues with using expressions such as “in order to” and being able to write as well as you did. But you did it. You even went as far as to write with a sarcastic tone in your comment, adding “it’s funny because” since I’m sure you know the exact nuance of that expression and how it’s used. You used it correctly and yet you act as though your English isn’t good enough. It is, so because you speak English take your time to read the actual analysis instead of writing a baseless comment that targets things that aren’t related to the analysis and asking for it to be deleted. If you don’t like it, you’re welcome not to be here. But you have to at least read it first before accusing me of things I never did. So I do understand, what I don’t understand is how you can write a comment like this and yet not read the analysis properly.
So instead of asking for me to delete something I worked hard on without any real good reasoning, instead put in half of the effort I put into writing this and actually read and address the analysis. Don’t attack me. I didn’t attack you, I didn’t attack Jungkook, so there’s no need to attack me. I doubt you’ll respond as this is a very long comment and I don’t think you honestly care, but this blog and these analyses are things I worked hard on and care a lot about. So the least I could was address your comment properly while defending myself. I apologize if I seem too aggressive but I’ve become tired over the years of dealing with these things as if it were my fault. It isn’t my fault people aren’t willing to put in the time to read things before they criticize them.
Have a good night.
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Thank you for your analysis of my English ability, which greatly overestimates me. I don’t know why you are so angry. I don’t deny your years of efforts or your professional ability. I just don’t understand why u insist on the comparing singers even though you have already said that there is no comparison between different singers. Although I can’t agree with ur explanation，because even in the same group, they are in different parts, and one is a baritone and the other is a tenor, both are independent individuals. But that’s ok, this blog is yours. You have been emphasizing that your original intention is to spread knowledge and balabala. In fact, many people pay attention to you just like me because you analyst our idols, and these have become the reason for our fanwars , but you show that it is not your own fault but our fault .U reply me “You came here and asked to delete the part of the analysis, I would have considered that a fair and valid point “. What is meaning of this sentence? Is that the way u also think about the fans who want u to delete ranking system before? Don’t worry I have read your blog (of course not all, I only care about some singers ), as I said, I’ve seen the replies on this page, I already don’t want to put forward the new evidence to prove jungkook’s voice better or he didn’t have those problems.I don’t think jungkook is weaker than V,and it also does not need to get your approval. There is not only one voice technique is correct or healthy, I believe that many people have discussed with you before,and also I think this kind of argument is meaningless and always has no conclusion, because no one will change his opinion. Now that you’ve decided to keep it, OK, then fanwars will never stop.
I still think your English is pretty good. lol I’m not angry, I wasn’t angry so I do apologize if it seems that way. I’m tired, tired of being attacked and accused of things I didn’t do. You don’t know me and yet you acted like you did, wouldn’t you be frustrated if someone said you were doing things you never did?
If I just talk about tenors without referencing baritones and vice-versa, wouldn’t it be harder for someone who knows next to nothing about music to understand? But then once I give examples and put it into perspective by making comparisons, isn’t it then easier to understand? The only intention I had was to make it easier to understand and give context.
I meant if all you wanted was for me to edit the analysis and delete the comparison part only, I’d have thought it was a valid comment and would have tried to consider it. But deleting the whole analysis because of that? I’m sorry, I can’t do that.
Honestly they’re not very different, they’re basically the same. This need to say who is better. Like I said before, if I said Jungkook > V, V fans would’ve been upset. Even some people come in here claiming Jimin is better than all of them or Jin is better than all of them. I honestly don’t care who’s the best. I care about what’s true and factual. If you present with evidence and facts, I will listen and I will discuss it with you. If you just complain without actually talking about vocal technique, it’s hard for me to do anything about it.
I would like to address one last thing about this. Do not blame fanwars on me or us. We are not responsible for how fans deal with these things. Like I said there are multiple people out there fighting about who’s better than who. It’s been there in any fandom of any kind before we existed and it will be there long after we’re gone. WE are not to blame for the toxic nature of fandoms where they always try to fight about who created what first. They fight about best outfits, best album sales, most attractive people, best singer, best dancers, hell even who’s funnier or more popular. It’s not our fault that the nature of fandoms seems to be about fighting constantly. I thought being a fan meant being supportive of your favorite singer, author, game character, etc. It’s not. People in any fandom are constantly fighting. Fanwars were always there, they didn’t start because of us and if we’re not there, people will find other reasons to fight about. So don’t shift the blame on us, instead take a good look at yourself. You come in here not arguing anything related to vocal technique and you directed your frustrations at me, that should say something. If we did delete these analyses, the fanwars won’t stop. So that’s why I won’t delete analyses that are meant to spread knowledge and as you kindly and maturely put, balabala.
As you said, since arguing is pointless, you won’t read nor address the analysis and no one will change their opinion, then what’s the point? It’s not about who’s right, you just don’t want to listen. So you’re welcome to leave this blog and pretend it doesn’t exist. The problem stems from people getting mad about things they don’t understand and yet still wanting to argue about it.
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Say again i came here just because u said u would not compare but now I know maybe it’s not for all singers,and I don’t want to quarrel with you here even I know u have post my reply on Twitter,but I still can’t dm u because u block me even I never say anything to u on Twitter….anyway hope u can really focus on teaching and hope ur actions really correspond with ur words.Have a nice day !
I compare in every analysis, within a group. “Strongest vocalist in X group” is something that we literally do in EVERY analysis. Oh did you want to DM me? Well I didn’t know it was you. I blocked you because you liked tweets that were obviously meant as attacks to me so I just didn’t want that kind of negative energy on my twitter. I can unblock you if you’d like. Thank you, I will keep teaching and will stay true to my words always. You have a nice day too.
Yes Ahmin, you are not to blame for fanwars AT ALL though you left some weak point for her to attack you lol I understood her point, anyone can agree to disagree but thats not nice and not true at all to call one of the most selfless person I have seen iml biased like this.
Been following Ahmin for almost 2 years this is the the 1st time I have commented here, let me say thank you for everything you have done for all of us, you are the one who introduced me to support singing and the idea of singing professionally itself.
I love you Ahmin, maybe one day I’ll sing for you(to ask for your op) hope my comment make you feel better even if just a bit. Hwaiting!
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Thank you, I really truly appreciate that. I can see her point too, but shifting the blame onto someone else without being aware of your own issues (the fandoms’) is not helpful either. Don’t be afraid to sing, ever! Just enjoy it and have fun with it! ㅠㅜ
Hi Ahmin, I noticed that the time stamp for the Iris Stevenson link is wrong; it directs to a part where V speaks about his throat condition rather than Iris talking about Jungkook. Could you please fix that?
I think the part that was originally supposed to be linked was at 1:40, is that right?
I don’t know if I meant to address a specific time stamp but since there is one, I probably meant to right? haha Thank you for pointing it out, it’s been fixed!
Just sad cause I watched the if you performance and Jungkook said it himself that he isn’t a good enough vocalist and said that he is still very lacking as a vocalist. Ok. ill go and cry in a corner. It’s fine if no one appreciates his voice cause the real critics know that he has a very soulful and emotional voice and he doesn’t need to be one of those powerhouse vocalist to be classified as a good vocalist. I’ll still remember the time when that one critic commented on his voice and said that his voice is like a sound source that you can hear and appreciate with your earphones and how he is able to convey emotion really well and when i say really well, I mean really well. I hope one day he realises how amazing and talented he really is. Same with Jimin and Jin. Peace.
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We hope that he keeps working to improve himself as a vocalist because as any respectable professional, one should never settle. We should always a to be better and better. Instead of viewing it as a negative thing that he wants to improve, support him as a vocalist. Don’t excuse lack of skill just because you love him, instead support him in becoming better always every day as a singer, person and artist. Singing isn’t just the sound of your voice, it’s a skill to be honed. I wish he’d see it as “I can always become better and better” as opposed to “Im not good enough” because that kind of mentality is dangerous and can be damaging to one’s mental health.
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you complain that nobody appreciates Jungkook’s voice (which isn’t true, he gets tons of praise by fans and members alike) and then you deliberately leave out V when you talk about the vocalists being amazing and talented. A tad hypocritical, no?
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I think she mentioned Jimin and Jin, because these two have not been given an analysis unlike Jungkook and V, but I understand where you’re coming from: not being biased/victimizing (or bashing any member here) and I’m being objective (I promise), but the lack of respect of V’s talents (as the only baritone of the vocal line) though (yes, he gets praised for his unique voice by fans once in a while but praising someone’s voice isn’t the same for praising someone’s vocals or vocal abilities, which Jungkook (main vocalist) and even the rest of the vocal line (Jimin for his high notes & lead vocalist and Jin because he’s the underdog/relatively underappreciated one among the whole vocal line in terms of popularity) except for V (well except for his more focused stans) get praised for both)…ugh…I’ve had enough already.
This may be a bit out of place here, but will do you an analysis on TxT’s vocalists? I’m curious about them since they’re a BigHit group as well. Are their vocals better than BTS’ so far (if one can say that much already)?
I’m not an admin, but I can say that TXT’s vocals are about the same as BTS’s. From the clips I’ve seen of them singing live, I think that TXT has some of the same vocal qualities as BTS; nasality with Taehyun and Yeonjun, breathy vocals with Soobin, etc. So far, I think they’re mostly the same.
@ julianah819 I wouldn’t be so quick w my judgement tbh. Although nasality and breathiness are not always desirable in singing, vocalists can still be skilled while overusing them (e.g. Hyolyn, Rokhyun). As far as I’ve heard TXT individually, none of them do well above G#4, but their overall approach is more relaxed than Jimin’s or Jin’s, for example. I also don’t hear too much breath support, but some members definitely have a shallow sense for it. For more information, I’d have to listen to vocal range videos, since right now, I don’t really have the time to search up specific notes.
I also want to add something as well: I’ve noticed from a live performance that I watched from them that Taehyun has the same issue as Jin of closing his throat somewhere in his range that isn’t high (and I think his singing approach is very similar to Jin’s as well). Also, I think most of the vocalists (most noticeable Soobin and Kai) are singing with the well-known JYP technique of half-sound, half-air while singing (not surprising considering BigHit was once part of JYP). None of TXT are technically better than Jungkook and Taehyung from what I heard (I hear very shallow support to no support at all from them). Not sure about the rappers, but I’m very sure that all of TXT vocalists that are not rappers are lyric tenors.
I have a question and it is not about BTS or JungKook actually it is about singing, I have been searching and no one has been able to help me, I have been singing at my church for almost 7 years (soprano), my problem, I had an pulmonary embolism in 2018 I did fine I came out of the hospital and 6 months later I was singing again, little by little I went back to practice, singing for two hours hurt my lungs but I did it for half and hour then an hour till I was able to practice again and then sing in front of people, the problem, I have a year later is I still don’t have the range I used to have, I can’t sing the high notes I used to hit before, I feel the air doesn’t fill my lungs enough, I tell my pulmonologist he did tests he says you are doing fine it is in your head, but I know I can’t do it, is there a way I could recover the range I have, could it be I need to take lessons, or exercises, what do you think? have you heard of anything like it before?
Hello! First of all I wanna say I’m glad you recovered and I’m sorry you had this experience. But I must say idk if I can answer properly as this is a bit outside my field of expertise. Although it is something I can understand. Would you be able to tell specifically how high you used to sing? Do you have recordings of before and after that I could compare?
Hello Ahmin! This isn’t about JK but since he’s part of BTS like Jin, I thought it would be okay if I talked about the last one.
I read that Jin’s support was the highest in BTS bc it ended in around G4? Is it true?
Also, there’s a new vocal range video about his singing voice. Where would you determine his supported range (if you can bc it’s quite fast to hear it all)
I’m sorry but Jin’s supported range can’t be determined because he has not established consistent support anywhere in his voice yet.
Ok thanks. Does the same applies to Jimin or did he gain a beginning of support?
From what I’ve heard he’s remained more or less stagnant.
Hello. Can you explain what it means to be “supported”? Does it mean they don’t strain or have difficulty singing high/low notes?
In simple terms, it does mean you don’t strain and don’t have difficulty. But if we look at it more in depth, it means a vocalist is able to manage just enough air from their diaphragm without pushing, use their vocal cords while they connect correctly, where they’re the muscles mostly used when singing. It’s when the swallowing muscles, the tongue, the jaw, throat and every other part is relaxed allowing the vocal cords to work on their own. It’s possible not to strain and to be unsupported though. You could sing with a shallow quality where you’re not tense, but the vocal cords are not used properly.
is there any improvement in his singing ability, listen to this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkGH5lA9QXY
I discovered your blog recently and i’m impressed with how professional and precise your analysis are. I’m sure this takes a lot of time so thank you for doing it so seriously.
I’m a bit disappointed to read that Jungkook is that weak in terms of vocal technique. I’ve heard from some people that he doesn’t work on his technique because he likes his breathiness even though he knows that it’s not very healthy. I don’t really believe this because i think that if he knew it’s an issue he would have done everything to remedy this problem. It’s just a theory but sometimes i wonder if the fact that most armys and the members themselves always tell him how good of a singer he is didn’t make him believe that his technique is actually great. Like Taehyung saying he is the best vocalist in South Korea or Jimin using him as a role model in singing. I hope it’s not the case because he will never improve if no one around him makes him aware of his flaws.
This is a snippet from his new solo song what do you think about it? The way he sings here is slightly different from how he usually sings https://youtu.be/DkGH5lA9QXY
Hi. Thank you for your thorough analysis!
I’d like to ask you two questions, if I may:
1. I’m not sure I fully understand what breath support is. Is it right to say that breath support is the ability to sing by breathing in with a lowered diaphragm, pushing a controlled amount of air through the vocal chords, and the absence of any throat, tongue or jaw tension?
2. Is it difficult to learn to sing with breath support and if not, why do the vocalists of BTS lack breath support? Do they simply lack any knowledge of proper vocal technique?
I have a question as I’ve been hearing this from a lot of Jungkook fans on YouTube. They say he’s a very versatile singer. I don’t really understand how and why, so could you maybe, if possible, explain this to me? And if he isn’t why.
Okay. When we say someone is versatile, we technically mean that they are useful in many or all aspects; they apply their skills to many, many different things. In this case, when people say Jungkook is a versatile singer, they would most likely mean that he can sing in many different styles and genres of music. He can sing really emotional Korean ballads, he can bring some attitude in BTS’s more fun and upbeat songs, and he can sing English pop songs really well, too. I hope I explained this well! 😊
if we follow your logic every Idol nowadays could be called versatile, everyone tries to sing many genres . the word is thrown everywhere quite easily, objectively and in the context of vocalization being versatile is the ability to use different tones and nuances according to the genera of music like how Whitney was using her head voice in many ways and could play with it ( she could go from very Full dark head voice in her ballads to a more popish one in her dancy songs ) or like how some advanced vocalists could sing quite technically in different genres including Ailee , kyuhyun and Ryeowook, Junsu , EXO , hongki …..etc
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hullo i just want to say that i found this website AGES ago, way back when i was a fetus in high school and now i’m a sophomore in college and I’m just very impressed with your dedication and passion for this vocal analysis site like wow you’re still alive and kicking!!! thanks for all of the updates and for responding to people’s comments!! you’re doing great 🙂
What can you tell me about the high notes that Jungkook do in “On” ?
Here at 3:11 to 3:31
I think that’s one of the rare time that he sing that high
Do you see any changement than usually ?
And what is the highest note ?
Not Ahmin but i’ll give you my thoughs, in this performance they are using a lot of backtracks so at some points you can hear them, but not really clear, the song itself and this performance have a lot of autotune, and it can be said that in some points they were really off due the extreme adjustment that made the effect, especially in the jungkook high note, but overall is ok, the highest note is an F5, I didn’t think that Jk could do it mixed live, but in the Carpool karaoke with James Corden he just kill it (https://youtu.be/T4x7sDevVTY?t=428) , as you can hear him voice really clear for me is better than the recorded one, hope this help you.
And Ahmin if you read this i want to ask your opinion on the progress of BTS, Jk and V hitting those A4 so “effortlesly”(https://youtu.be/T4x7sDevVTY?t=388), but especially Jk, now he has a great sense of support in his high range, i wouldn’t say that he can support F4 now, but I heard some on the album very well done, especially in her solo (https://youtu.be/a_zk4JFK43g?t=5) , and that G4 in ON was really well phrased (https://youtu.be/gwMa6gpoE9I?t=183), for me is a big improvement, what you think?
Thank you for the answer, actually i saw the jungkook’s notes of “on” on james cardon latter after asking this question, also the same notes seem less powerful and less higher in the comeback live at mcountdown
i’m also curious to know if there any improuvement in bts vocal
I saw a reaction video of vocal caoch called Justine Burke, he reacted to bts “on” and compilation jungkook’vocal and high notes and in both he said that Jungkook have a improuvement on his head voice and that his vocal is not that breathy like before and now his vocal is more leaning and compressive
Also i see many time people saif that now Jin’s vocal improuve a lot and that he have a better control of his voice that Jimin
hi there , also not ahmin but i will answer that from the technical aspect.
for the F5 , hmm how to say that it really not a big deal to mix that high by a tenor it not impressive or unheard off you have basically 120 tenors in the korean industry who can mix in the 5th octave with a few who can mix G5 so no he didn’t kill it his larynx was high and has a thin quality and small volume throughout,am not sure how that impressive.
for V his tongue tension got even worse he’s pronouncing with a weird tongue tension in the couple last year even within his comfortable range from what i remember he debuted with a cleaner diction, for the support aspect you’re aware he doesn’t support above C4/C#4 right? not sure how his thin strained A4s is “effortless” .
Just to give you a general idea on how a baritone support above C#4 https://youtu.be/iuW310d_6f8
Mixing a soft phrased G4 =/= it supported i heard him singing that high recently and he still strain above E4/F4 even the F4s are not impressive and he’s a tenor an F4 is not that high for a range tenor, overall i heard no improvement
Ok i can’t answer directly but well, your point of view is very interesting, but it seems like you think that is normal to support G4 and mix +D5 for mens, for your information, it isn’t, the fact that, according to you there are 120 tenors that can mix a F5 in the industry doesn’t change anything, is still impressive, and it is true that there many can do it but i’m sure that you can’t even name more than 20, obviously his larynx was high, i mean, he is singing an octave higher that him supported range, and, since when you need to be loud to get well a note? he has the enough volume to you can hear it very clear, also, for effortlesly i dont mean supported, but he keeps almost the same strain for all him unsopported range from D4, he is straining a lot but he softens it very well, and he is relaxed, and yes there are baritones that can support very high like Hwanhee, but he was plus 30 in that video, i dont know how it was he supported range in his middle 20s, but surely he has improved a lot since then, thats what people do, V isn’t like an incredible singer, but he still can improves a lot, so let’s wait for it, also, never said that last part, is a very good phrased G4, that’s all, as you know people are different, Jk has been a very quiet and smooth singer, he never needed to develop a higher range so he never did, as others that did that first, even before getting a proper tone, as you say that you can’t hear any improvement i guess you dont know how was Jk strugglin a C5 just 4 months back, he is now in a good way of improvement, and i hope he keeps that way, and the others start improving their OWN abilities.
You know, extensive vocal range does not make any vocalists a better one at all. Sure, they will improve over time and it would be nice seeing them do so; but for the mean time, I believe the blog’s analysis is correct.Not sure who you’re referring to by “support G4” because none of BTS’s vocalists can do so. If you look at each of JK’s registers, one by one, you’ll realise that he’s got a lot of room for improvement – he can support down to Eb3 in his lower range, pretty weak for a tenor. He can support up to Eb4 in his mixed voice, which is weak – average for a tenor. He doesn’t have the ability to use head voice – a sign that his higher register has not developed a lot. Plus, with enough training and practice, anyone can support G4; in fact, there’s more than a lot of tenors in the industry right now that can support G4. Still, I understand your point and I’m very happy that the boys are making any progress (which I believe they haven’t made much, if not no).
@Tim Đặng don’t mean to be rude to you or anything but ” there’s more than a lot of tenors in the industry right now that can support G4″ if we count the non-idols we will have less than 50 which is considered quite a limited number if we look at all those groups active and debuting groups ones , in fact in all the recent debuting idols no one support that high ( you’re welcome to prove me wrong ofc ) the last new gen tenor who supported that high is seungkwan and NCT taeil (eventually doyoung ) and they debuted in 2015/2016 .It even rare to hear in recent groups a tenor who can support to begin with let alone supporting a G4
@Helena 50 is already quite a lot isn’t it ^^ I was trying to prove my point that with enough training, everyone can be a good singer. But I have to agree on your point that the standard of vocalists in KPop is falling noticeably – not many of the main vocalists out there, both male and female, can be lead vocalists in groups of earlier generations. It’s kinda disappointing to see this happens, right?
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@Tim Đặng it not much if we look at the bigger picture and how much there’s groups out there I know I sound harsh but that just the reality, “enough training” time is not really a factor if the training doesn’t correct the bad habits, you see tons of idols always saying ” i’m taking vocal lessons ….” but in reality it so rare to hear someone improving, the standard is falling for sure but what I noticed is people nonexistent capacity to hear support, there’s still some debut with surprisingly goo base but people has no reference so they just hype their favs over and over again.
some of the praised idols “singer” today are really not what their fans think they are …i can drop names but let just not :’D
I think the vocal analysis is correct for the most part based on recent performances (supported range more or less stayed the same), but I think he improved for the agility and tone production and projection for his lower range I think. It would be nice if there was clarification on this since the fans are nowadays relying on less-reliable vocal coaches on YouTube (not saying that they don’t know what they’re talking about or have experience, but they tend to sugarcoat things for the sake of the fans-like say their strengths and either hide their weaknesses or sugarcoat them to the point it sounds like a “strength”) to know about vocals and it seems like a good fraction of the fandom are believing in false narratives regarding BTS vocalists (not just JK, but the others as well) as Helena has indicated below. Thank you to anyone who can clarify this.
let me answer that bit by bit .
1 – Men are not generalized in one big category when it comes to vocalization, we’re expecting a tenor to support at least F#4 when we’re talking vocal technique for TENORS not “men” again the discussion in a technical analysis blog, you seem so sure in your response I don’t know why but let prove to you it really not impressive to mix an F5 for a TENOR
( park hyoshin , dongha ,naul , chen , eungkwan , jonghyun ,baekhyun ,jaejoong , daehyun ,yesung , doyoung , NCT taeil and block b taeil , ken , baekho , jinho, lee hyuk , ha hyunwoo …. ) I can still keep going I’m just naming you idols and famous singers with some technique
3 – Keeping the volume doesn’t mean it still be heard I meant he’s losing volume by thining his voice
4 -“he keeps almost the same strain for all him unsupported range from D4, he is straining a lot but he softens it very well, and he is relaxed ” so that improvement to you ? don’t know where you’re hearing him being relaxed with the fact that his larynx is high and to your information, you can still be soft with 0 support . tbh not sure why I am responding to you, you don’t sound like a person who understands support as a concept so i will end it here i can keep explaining things with examples and all but not gonna do it .
It’s me, the problem is that you are taking everything I say as support statement, I said that although some of his new F4s are good i don’t consider his supported range has increased, not to mention his G4 and the V’s A4s, and Tae is relaxed because he is confident while doing it, not technically relaxed you know, also, you can’t take the best singers in kpop and make a standard by your own, those singers are above all standards, and here only the best are analyzed so this is not the right place to see that, I guess you have heard BTS songs, let’s compare them with the songs of another well known group, Exo, Just the songs, then, BTS song usually are in a D4-G4 range, earlier in their career the songs usually went up till F4, and the high notes was a Jimin work, so why Jk would even try sing higher than that, he didn’t need it, and back then Big Hit lacked in vocal coaches and didn’t invested in the members vocals due they were a rap group, even Jk was more interested in learning to rap, being like that he developed a smooth and quite tone and used a breathy singing, 0 belting, analysing Exo songs, they are usually in a F#4-A#4 range, their songs are really high, and they were trained for months to sing those songs, 2 of the main vocalists debuted with a supported G#4/A4 and F5 belting range and one with full A4 support and belting C5, they had the vocal training, talent, capability and the desire to get the best they can in their vocal techniques, pretty different right, so what i want to tell you is that people gets their abilities in order what they are gonna used for, and that if you are expecting every tenor to support F#4 you are expecting everybody to have the same life opportunities and choices, naturally is imposible, now that makes one group’s vocalists better than the othe? Objectively, yes, subjectively, at all, even being a huge gap between their vocal abilities, you can enjoy more and prefer the BTS singing and vocal style, and that’s perfect, as you know what you want, the singer know what he wants, and people can acept that everybody objectives and capabilities are different.
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@getthepoint not sure if you’re the same person or whatever …anyways
There’s no “relaxed” while being strained that just doesn’t exist, maybe you mean confident , you could have just said that without using relaxed which means physically being relaxed ( as in throat wise ) which wasn’t in both cases.
not sure what you meant by ” you can’t take the best singers in kpop and make a standard by your own” I didn’t make those standards maybe this website doesn’t use comparisons anymore buy there will always be comparisons in any field while we’re at it , that doesn’t mean BTS singers are not compared to other singers .
The thing with BTS, they were never a vocal group even themselves knew they can’t sing ; it was their stans and their sudden success that made smh everyone hype their singing which I still can’t get the ideology of ” they’re a rap group , you can’t judge them ” to ” the whole vocal line can sing and support now , jin and jimin have improved ” and the whole bla bla bla .
You can’t play the “subjectively” card especially in a technical analyzing website too otherwise, everyone would say their favorite singer is the strongest according to their subjective taste lol . smh the subjective card if flipped whenever it BTS singing ability. PEOPLE CAN LIKE WHATEVER THEY WANT that wasn’t any of the subjects of my responses ^^
PS: just a correction Kyungsoo debuted with supported Bb4s not A4
I agree with you on how these so-called narratives about BTS vocal line right now don’t make any sense (no hate to them whatsoever as I think the hate on their vocals is exaggerated at this point), but I think out of all BTS vocal line, Jungkook is probably the only one who has made some sort of improvement IMO even if it’s not that significant at all (V slightly regressed IMO (which is a shame because he has my most favorite voice in the group) and Jimin and Jin stayed the same more or less despite common fandom belief on how they improved, but Jimin iirc is now taking vocal lessons so let’s see how it goes).
not ahmin but i will correct someone above too. Jungkook doesn’t improve his supported range, hit note easly =/= supported. his F4 in butterfly get strained and slightly high larynx everytime he sings it. And his E4 never really very consistent tbh, sometimes got tight too
I want to ask something, just maybe a simple question [not for fanwar, just for my curiosity]…
Who has Better Falsetto between Jungkook and Baekhyun? Only Falsetto register!
if you listen closely you will hear it .it not that difficult to guess
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@Helena who is it? I’m really bad at guessing 😔…
I don’t really like to compare the falsetto register. If it’s a head voice, I’m all for it and in that case it’s Baekhyun cause he’s sung with a supported one on occasion, something ive never heard Jungkook do.. but I wouldn’t want to compare falsetto registers.
@Ahmin3 Okay! Thanks for answering!
Btw is there other BTS’ member that has supported range beside Jungkook and V? And what’s their supported range?
Sorry if my english doesn’t make sense…. Have a Good Day!
I was wondering if you can be able to do an updated version of JK and V’s vocal analysis – I would love to see how much they improved from before to now
I am curious of your opinion on his more recent vocal performances, for example ON. Here’s a couple of examples like
Carpool Karaoke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4x7sDevVTY at 6:59, 6:10 is when the music starts though.
This was for an MAMA (Jungkook’s bridge starts at 5:02, the song starts at 2:24)
There’s a few more recent songs like Dynamite and the whole BE album, but I’m more curious on this particular bridge.
I recently saw a video where a guy rank bts members vocally
He rank Jungkook 1st, he explain notably that he have the most control of his voice and the most relaxed voice and that he have the most understanding of his voice
He rank Jimin 4th, he said notably that his voice is inconsistant that his voice sometime sound fantastic and sometime cracky and struggling, he also said that he used his voice in the wrong way espacially in this uper rang but recently it getting better
I’m curious to know your opinion about that
I let you the video if you are curious
Id rather not get into rankings, sorry
I understand, but beside the ranking, did you agreed with the comments that i quote above?
What the guy in the video said about Jk and Jimin (regardless of ranking) is indeed true but also not very thorough at all.
As a side note, homeboy doesn’t know what he’s saying 90% of the time (I am well acquainted with his channel) so take what he says with a BIG grain of salt.
To be brutally honest, he’s probably a worse vocalist than I am.
Hello Ahmin (and others analists),
I’m new in the world of BTS. I happily do not idolize. I like a lot of their songs, incl. the lyrics and deeper meanings. I’m no vocal specialist, won’t pretent to be one.
Your analyses help me in understanding what I hear better and why I favor some song parts less. That triggered me all this time.
I think it is a pity that in the past there was not enough attention (money?) for training in this area. I know that they want lessons now, but are looking for the right person – that suits with them. Jimin said earlier he had a bad experience with that. I don’t know why.
I’m very curious about the coming albums of JungKook and V/Taehyung.
Thanks for educating me! I will follow your blog!