Vocal Range
B2 ~ A5 (2 octaves & 5 notes)
Supported Range
Eb3 ~ F4/F#4
Voice Type
Tenor
Strengths/Achievements
- Strongest vocalist in NU’EST
- Support is present up to F4/F#4
- Occasional support up to G4
- Transitions into falsetto are done relatively well
- Able to sing down to Eb3 with support
- Rarely shows tendency to be nasal
Points for Improvement
- Runs are usually sloppy and pitchy
- Notes above F#4 tend to squeezed and sung with a high larynx
- Unable to produce a head voice
- Sometimes diction can be closed even within his supported range
- Chest voice below Eb3 becomes weaker
- Unable to produce resonance
- Slight decline in openness since getting vocal nodules
Registers
- Lower register: Not his most explored register but relatively decently developed. Support and good tone production are present down to Eb3 but below that, his volume drops a lot and his voice becomes a lot breathier.
- Mixed register: Consistent support is present but unevenness in mix caused by a tight throat and a high larynx above F#4 cause him to strain most of the higher parts of songs.
- Upper register: Unable to show a head voice. His least used and least developed register, he mostly favors mixing over attempting to use to use his falsetto. However falsetto transitions are done relatively well, with good pitch.
Agility
Baekho’s main vocal influences when it comes to more western music seem to lean towards R&B. With that being said, in his repertoire as a member of NU’EST, he rarely sings songs that challenge him in the agility department. When he chooses to sing covers of songs or when he sings solo songs, he does attempt to sing runs more often. These attemps are often not well executed because he is unable to stay in pitch when singing runs and hitting each individual note of a run, one by one. Instead not only does he slide through the notes, he slides faster than he can anticipate the notes he’s going to sing and generally falls off the key center of a song when singing faster and more challenging runs. This can be heard by his runs in “생일 축하해요“, “너네 누나 소개시켜줘” and “When I Was Your Man.”
Overall analysis
Baekho debuted in 2012 as the main vocalist of boy group NU’EST. Throughout their careers, they’ve promoted in Japan and in Korea and have had mildly successful singles. Unfortunately due to lack of exposure, Baekho hasn’t been able to showcase his vocals with many solo performances on any TV shows focused on singing. His voice is generally thicker than his other bandmates, more so now than before his vocal nodule surgery. His voice still has a light quality to it and mostly sits in a higher range, like that of a light lyric tenor.
His lower range isn’t showcased much through NU’EST’s music but he sings generally within a fairly comfortable range throughout most of their songs. He isn’t challenged to sing low much, but the few times he’s done so it is possible to hear that his voice is more comfortable and developed above Eb3 than below. Whenever he sings as low as Eb3 or higher, he is able to remain relaxed, projected, and well placed. His voice stays present and his vocal cords connected, as one can hear in the E3’s in “생일 축하해요“, and Eb3’s in “Fine Girl“, “瞳を閉じて” and “무조건.” However below Eb3, his voice tends to lose volume and become breathier and less connected. He starts to lose support and his voice seems to be less developed below Eb3, where he sings less often. This can be heard by the Db3’s and C3’s in “瞳を閉じて“, as well as D3’s and B2’s in “Fine Girl” and “슬픔활용법.”
Even though Baekho is their main vocalist, within NU’EST’s repertoire, he actually isn’t challenged to sing the highest portions of songs as often as other main vocalists would be. As such, he doesn’t often try to sing too high nor strain his voice too much. He sings mostly within a reasonably comfortable range for his voice. His development of breath support is very consistent and stable, as he’s able to remain relaxed through his first passaggio. Up to F#4, he’s shown many times that he’s able to produce supported notes and not strain his voice much, as heard with the F4’s in “Beautiful Ghost“, “사랑없는 사랑“, “Hey, Love“, and F#4’s in “잠꼬대” and “Fine Girl.” Occasionally in the past, Baekho was able to carry support as high as G4, as heard in “이별복습“, but currently he seems to have shown a slight regression in his ability to stay opened even within his supported range. At times he shows tightness with support on his F#4’s, as heard in “어깨빌려줘” but for the most part support is consistent.
Above F#4, his mixed voice becomes tighter and more shouty. He tends to sound really squeezed and his voice becomes a lot thinner in quality. His overall support is not present above F#4, where he attempts to overcompensate for the lack of support by putting tension in his throat and pushing his voice out with more air pressure. The result is that he generally strains his voice anywhere above F#4, as heard by the G4’s in “Wait For You“, “야하게 입지마“, G#4’s in “나와 같은 차를 마시고“, “조금만“, “瞳を閉じて“, A4’s in “예뻐“, “생일 축하해요“, Bb4’s in “All Force One“, “사랑 없는 사랑“, “FACE“, B4’s in “When I Was Your Man“, “여보세요“, C5’s in “Beautiful Ghost” and D5’s in “여왕의 기사.”
His upper register consists of a falsetto. He’s never been able to show the ability to connect his vocal cords properly to produce the right amount of balance of his cricothyroid muscles and thyroarytenoid muscles in order to produce a connected head voice. Thus only singing in his falsetto. This is by far his least explored register, where many times he sings higher in his mix than he does in his falsetto. The few times he’s sung with his falsetto, he’s shown good control of his sense of pitch and his transitions are often relatively smooth, as heard in “너네 누나 소개시켜줘“, “사랑없는 사랑” and “All Force One.” Although at times his transitions can show a very noticeable drop in volume and projection, as heard with the C#5 in “조금만.” His highest known note in falsetto is an A5 in a high note battle on Weekly Idol.
In terms of his overall technique, Baekho is a consistent vocalist within his supported range. His connection between proper breath support and staying relaxed in his throat is quite consistent, although not fully developed. He is yet to explore the full extent of breathing deeper into his diaphragm, which causes him to not develop his voice more than he’s done so far. With that said, he also has a pretty clean sense of placement and doesn’t often place his voice in his nose. Even so, he’s still unable to place his voice forward in his mask with an opened enough throat to produce resonance. He’s mostly quite clear in his projection and his sense of dynamics is sensitive to each he sings. However his lack of control of his mixed voice and other registers cause him to be unable to produce a wider variety of dynamic changes outside his supported range.
As a vocalist, Baekho has remained quite professional about his singing over the years. No major declines nor issues have been heard, aside from him having vocal nodules. Even then, he respected himself and took the time out to rest his vocal cords. He’s yet to fully explore the extent of his potential as a vocalist and could improve in many areas that could guarantee him to further his career as a professional vocalist. Perhaps being given the opportunity to perform in TV shows such as King of Mask Singer or Immortal Song 2 could help motivate him to find an instructor who can help him develop his voice further.
Musicianship
Musically speaking, Baekho doesn’t often attempt musical changes in his vocal performances. He has done so, as one can hear by small melodic changes made to the cover of “Wait For You“, but for the most part he focuses on singing the song as it is, as well as he can. The few times he has attempted melodic changes were successful, even if the changes were minor. Harmonically, NU’EST is not known for their acapella performances but Baekho is able to handle his own parts in harmonies and blend his voice well with his duet partners, as heard in “Wait For You.”
Label (Type of Vocalist)
M Vocalists: Mid-Range Vocalists
Best Vocal Performance(s)
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Analyzed by Ahmin (Kitsunemale)
As always, great job, Ahmin. By the way, I wanted to ask about the openness issue in this vocalist that I’ve never heard about. How can openness drop as the result of vocal nodules? I thought openness was always about vocal tract or throat shaping, creating space in the mouth and such.
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He just probably got out of shape and started to not sing as often, so he developed a habit from not singing as much.
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i saw occasional support to G4 and rarely shows tendancy to be nasal and was crossing my fingers that he was average-above average
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I keep feeling a little bit of resonance is usually needed to get slightly better than average… it was a big reason I thought Hyunseong (Boyfriend) was going to be A-AA just from reading the strengths (although some other strengths helped). Actually, I dunno with guys, but I know there are Lyrics Sopranos like Jessica and Sunny who sometimes resonate but are still average, so I think it practically has to be a requirement to get out of average, unless maybe their supported range is just somehow wide but lacking resonance….
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Jessica is A to AA though
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Oh, so she is… but Sunny is still A with occasional resonance, and I think when Jessica was rated A she’d also already shown occasional resonance, so….
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He had potential closer to debut to be that.
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How would you rank the boys in the average category.
I think it would go something like
Junho>Baekho>Kevin>Youngjae/Jun.k>Jang
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At first I was like “who’s Jang?” Then I was like “oh Hyunseung.” Mhmm Hyunseung is definitely above Kevin but I don’t wanna spoil details that you’ll find out once the chart comes out. ;3
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Ahmin! I just want to ask. My vocal range is E3-F5 including the head voice but my tessitura is the same with Baekho. But some people said that I am a lyric baritone. Why is that? Although I knew myself I am a lyric baritone. And can a lyric baritone, under trainings, can develop into a light lyric tenor?
Thank you and Godbless~
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E3? Are you sure you meant E3 and not E2? What do you mean by Tessitura? Dear, this is not Pokemon. You’re not going to train and evolve into a tenor, you’re a baritone and that’s it. You could sing as high as a tenor but you’ll be a baritone. I don’t know how to answer the question “Why is that?” .. Why is what? Why are you a baritone? I don’t know if I don’t hear you.
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omg pokemon
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LMAO Pokemon
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this aint digimon and just call a digivolution and suddenly turn baritonmon
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What I want to say is can a baritone became a tenor or vice versa. E2. Sorry for the typo. And tessitura, the supported range I mean. Thank you.
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Yeah I know what you meant and I’m telling you, that’s not a thing. Your voice is your voice, it is what it is. You don’t become another voice type through training. Don’t worry, I was just kidding. lol Well again I’d have to hear you to confirm the supported range and voice type aspect of your question.
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But is it possible for your voice type to change due to other reasons? Like Mariah Carey & Whitney Houston for example, their voices don’t sound like how it did when they were in their prime. Also could a voice be underdeveloped so it ends up being mistaken for another voice type? Like Jiyoon’s analysis says she’s a soprano but in the analysis it says she could be an underdeveloped mezzo. I’ve heard the same about Amber too.
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Mariah is still a soprano. A damaged chesty soprano who’s unable to mix because of her nodules, but a soprano nonetheless. Whitney turned into a mezzo due to abuse to her vocal cords because of her drug issues. Yes underdeveloped voices can be harder to put into a fach. Many of the weak vocalists can be hard to identify, I have more issues with underdeveloped females.
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Thank you. Ill try to record some songs so you can help me. 🙂
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I always thought he’s a baritone coz he kinda sounds and “looks” like one…? XD
btw is Minhyun most likely weak?
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He seemed like he was weak while I was listening. Yeah I had the same problem! I thought he was a baritone because of his looks lol
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I’m curious about Ren, do you know at least if he isn’t weak? > <
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I’m afraid every member of NU’EST aside from Baekho is weak.
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I’m always curious after reading these analyses as to what my voice type is. I’ve been in choirs that have placed me anywhere from Tenor 1 up to Soprano 1. I tend to have difficulty in my middle range when switching out of my lower register. My range is pretty solid though from E2 to C5, though I’ve managed D2 to E5 a couple times(and with lots of effort, depends on what vowel I’m using). Idk if I should post this here or elsewhere on the site, but I’ve always wondered about this since I usually just get stuck wherever.
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Did you say E2? Did you say Soprano 1? Are you a guy or a girl? I mean I can’t tell you your voice based off of this. I’m a baritone and I’ve sung bass, tenor and alto in choir before, so it can vary regardless of your voice type. I would have to hear your singing to help you.
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hey, i’m just curious.. I always thought vocal type is based on how low and/or high they can go, but you say even if you can sing as high as soprano or as low as contralto could, if you’re a mezzo, you’re a mezzo.. then how could you know the type of voice?? o.O thank you
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No, range does not determine voice type. Hwanhee can mix up to D5, that does not make him a tenor. Key can mix C#5, he is still not a tenor. Changmin can mix G5, he’s not a Soprano. Voice type is not determined by your full range, it’s determined by your natural range and where your voice naturally and comfortably sits. Even if you may be able to push your voice beyond its natural limits or even if you have great technique and can support really low or high, it’s where your voice naturally shines that determines your voice type. Also very importantly, it’s where your natural switches of registers, called passaggi, happen. So your chest to mix switch and your mix to head switch, those are the determining factors for voice type. Not where you scream and you can’t go any higher so you have to use head voice, but your natural switch. A lyric tenor switches to mix from chest around D4/Eb4 and from mix to head around G4/Ab4, a lyric baritone switches around B3 and E4. So there’s quite a gap between tenors and baritones, whereas Sopranos and Mezzos can overlap since their switch is smaller. A Soprano switches around F4/F#4 and F5/F#5, but a mezzo is like Eb4/E4 and Eb5/E5, but it can also be E4/F4 and E5/F5 depending on the weight of the soprano and mezzo, they can overlap and a heavier soprano or a lighter mezzo can have the same exact passaggi.
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Lol, yeah, E2, unless I’m reading this piano wrong? Idk, I never really used those terms before. And I’m a girl. Sorry for not mentioning it before. I would have to record a few things I guess? Gah, sorry I got super anxious out of nowhere, so now I’m uncertain how to respond. I really do appreciate the explanation you gave to RhiYeon though, I never knew any of that. I will get back to you on this…. probably this weekend. 😛
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Wait you’re a girl? Then it’s probably E3. D3 and E5 sounds more correct. You might just be a Soprano and I’m sure you can go above F5, I think maybe you were singing E3 ~ F6 instead of E2 ~ F5.
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You think? Like I said, I’ve never really used those terms before, I’m just going off what I’m reading on the keyboard, which may be labeled wrong for all I know.
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I’d have to hear you to help you.
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Double posting, lol. Yeah, you’re right, and it’s labeled wrong. I took the opportunity to google what the notes on a keyboard are supposed to be labeled as, and these ones are off a whole octave. I thought there was something not making sense. Thanks for the input though! I’m gonna go hide somewhere in embarrassment now.
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Oh no then you’re probably a Soprano haha
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Sorry if this is a late comment, but I’m confused… you say that the second passaggio for females is F5/F#5 for sopranos and Eb5/E5 for mezzos, right? But, in the criteria section of the blog it says that, for females to be considered Proficient, they should be able “to sing through their first passaggio and second passaggi with support and resonance”, but none of the girls in that ranking can support higher than C#5/D5. Actually, the only sopranos that can support F5/F#5 and mezzos that support Eb5/E5 are Good to Great or higher. How does it work? I mean, if their second passaggio is around the middle of the 5th octave, shouldn’t it be easier for them to at least hit those notes without all the strain that actually happens?
Sorry if it’s a silly question, but I’m a bit lost :B
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Sorry I actually kind of had men in mind when I wrote that but the female passaggi also have some breaks in between so I was thinking more of that instead of their strict passaggi cause that’s a bit much to expect of them.
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I’m feeling conflicted. On one hand, I’m glad that Baekho is at least average since Nu’est is one of my favorite k-pop groups. On the other hand, I know he has the potential to become better. Well, he’s still pretty young; I guess we’ll see how he improves (or declines, but I don’t want to think about that).
Though, I do find it interesting that he’s the main vocalist considering he has a pretty limited vocal range and k-pop tends to favor high vocal ranges.
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He’s not limited, he just hasn’t shown all he can do yet.
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I see. Well, I hope he’s able to show off more of what he can do in the future a.k.a. IS2 or King of Masked Singer or just any future songs Nu’est releases. Thanks for the reply by the way.
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His exhibited range is pretty workable for most songs a kpop tenor might do, so it seems more like he hasn’t gotten in a high note battle? He doesn’t have a headvoice, and even Kyuhyun and Naul don’t support D5 in mix/belting, so it’s definitely not advisable that Baekho belt any higher than that.
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YASS finally NU’EST. So glad to know that he’s an Average, first thought he was a Baritone XD Anyway, can you give a few comments on Minhyun please ? You say that he seems week but at what department ? Aron and Ren of course ignored since Aron barely gets any lines and Ren’s singing is truly poor (e.c. his final line in Overcome live was really cringy)
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He’s weak as in he’s unable to support his voice, he sings with a shallow unsupported tone. He has better legato and placement than Ren, but they both have similar issues with different degrees of underdevelopment of the voice.
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How did Baekho and Minhyun do in this clip? Especially Baekho’s high note at 2:21. It seems really strained to me and I worry he’s putting a bit too much of his throat into it.
I hope the link works, I’m a little inept when it comes to this kind of stuff.
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Oh, it’s right there. Hahaha
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Yup it’s in the analysis lol
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Wow, listening to this performance I can now understand Minhyun’s lack of support in his singing. Dude sings just like me when he does those high runs, there is a very “jawy” feel when he descends. He has a bad breathing too, during his final “yeah” melisma he took a breathing. I think Ren has more “oomph” in his singing, as in for me, weight and support? Correct me if I’m wrong. I also think he tries to be too gritty. Aron always sings in a similar octave and that’s sad.
That aside, do you think NU’EST is a group of tenors? Including JR?
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I don’t remember clearly anymore if the rappers were tenors or baritones.
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Hey, here’s another update video since NU’EST just recently came back. Compared to some of their other songs, Baekho sings a bit higher and I noticed there’s also an unsuccessful short run at 1:54. Basically, I’m wondering two things:
1. Are all the high notes done by Baekho heavily strained and how did he sing in general compared to how he usually sings?
2. Do any of the other members of NU’EST have any support?
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1. There’s quite a bit of vocal strain but it’s not too heavily strained. It’s somewhat strained, but I’ve heard worse from other people.
2. I can’t say I hear any support from any other member of NU’EST.
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Okay, I just wanted to know. It’s seems like I’m finally able to notice vocal strain, so I’m happy about that.
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Hey Ahmin, with NU’EST’s recent comeback, I’m reminded that I’ve always wondered if you’d analyze Minhyun, seing that he’s the Main/Lead Vocalist of the band along with Baekho, even though he’s quite weak (no support, plus sloppy runs and bad breathing technique).
I actually think it’s needed to do him, since he does a lot of high notes, and a lot of fans are like “yay high notes = good singer” while others just consider the lead singers the best singers in the group.
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Well then we would have to analyze every vocalist who sings high by that logic, right? Like Eunjung of T-Ara who usually gets higher notes than Soyeon but can’t support almost at all. Nobody really requests Minhyun which is why I didn’t go through with his analysis, since we are trying to avoid analyzing weak vocalists as much as possible in order to give other more skilled vocalists in groups more recognition. I hope you understand. That’s not to say we won’t analyze weak rating vocalists who are soloists, but if the lead vocalist of a group turns out to fall in the weak rating and lacks material and requests, we just move on to other analyses for the time being.
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Just saying that 4/5 of Nu’est is going to Produce 101 S2 with Baekho included. Hopefully he’s able to show himself more with more vocal performances for consistency checking or improvements. and hopefully he isn’t the only one that is noteworthy of vocals. If not, the highest rated among the 101 boys would be only average…
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I can see some are quite fine, but only a few, and they are all around Baekho’s grade. I don’t expect much in vocal from this kind of program since I lowkey believe that vocalists who are competent / good / great wouldn’t need to join this kind of program 😂
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LOL I know that you’re tired of getting Produce 101 questions. but this one’s on Baekho ^^ His team recently performed Boy In Luv and he actually got Jin’s lines instead of Jungkook’s/Jimin’s surprisingly. Around 2:18, he hits a quick G4. It sounds just a bit tight to me, but I feel like there’s some kind of support backing it up. Thoughts?
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It’s not bad actually, he’s just placing the sound too low and he’s pulling too much chest but he didn’t necessarily push harder for the G4. It’s too quick for me to call it a fully supported note.
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and also the newest Baekho’s performance in Playing With Fire 🙂 any thoughts of his https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oj6LPCtCYI&t=1s high notes ?
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Please provide time stamps if you’re asking about the high notes, thank you. Assuming the notes are higher than F#4, we can already assume what the result is.
Edit. Someone asked about it, so I’ll copy-paste the answer:
“I’ll be very honest, Produce 101, be it the girl or the guy season, doesn’t have any vocalists who actually produce resonance except for like maybe Kim Juna and the highest rated vocalist out of the show would be average to above average (again her) at most, so I don’t find much fun in answering Produce 101 questions. So I’ll be brief. Choi Mingi is Ren, Dongho is Baekho. Ren is a shallow vocalist who doesn’t support, Baekho has been analyzed. 1:18 A4 throaty. 1:28 B4 throaty. Daewhi and Sewoon may be able to support to an extent, but it’s shallow for Sewoon. 1:50 throaty A4. The harmonized F#4 that Sewoon hit wasn’t very clean either. 2:09 other throaty B4’s, 2:15 D5 again all in his throat. With a strained B4 from Sewoon. Baekho supports, Ren doesn’t really. Sewoon is kind of shallow and Daewhi is also slightly shallow. This didn’t show any changes for Baekho’s technique and none of them can sing with proper healthy technique above F4/F#4, so all those high notes logically be strained from now on if you hear them sing above F#4, I wouldn’t expect support.”
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Found this video that I don’t think is in your analysis: he tries the high note in TVXQ’s Mirotic at around 1:09, was wondering what you thought of it? I think I hear resonance but not sure if I’m getting it wrong haha
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Well considering that note is D5 and then E5, that’s way above his supported range that ends at F#4. Considering no Kpop tenor I know can support D5 in their mixed voice at all, I wouldn’t expect him to even come close to supporting it. It’s strained, and it’s not in the analysis cause it’s too recent but thank you cause this changes his vocal range since now his highest note is E5. ^ ^
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in that same video at 1:32 and 1:34 were the G4s supported It also sounded non nasal to me?
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Non nasal, yes. Supported? No. They are quite tense actually, especially the one that came from the upper range down, at 1:32. The 1:34 was better but no it was not supported.
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Just a reminder that Baekho’s highest showcased note is now an E5 as indicated by the above comment.
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Oh I forgot to update his analysis.
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como foi essa high note aos 3:00 aproximadamente ?
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Strained mas é dos melhores A4’s que eu já ouvi dele, a voz mista dele tava mais equilibrada.
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was his voice stuck on the throat and his tongue tensed on that note???
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I didn’t hear much tongue.
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Hi ahmin, just from this video, did you notice any improvement on his support of high notes ? And did he overcome any weakness mentioned in the post?
Thank you very much !
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No, this video isn’t really enough to show me an improvement.
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Hi Ahmin , recently , Baekho did ” open up ” in Produce 101 .How well did he perform and what note did he hit ? And Is there a trainee who can support apart from Baekho ?
Sorry for my bad grammar and if this disturb you .
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What note did he hit where? Jaehyun? Jaehwan? I think that’s his name, he can support.
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Jaehwan
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0.30 , 0.55 and 3.00
Thank you for reply .
I am the same person of 0846448900 .
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Those time stamps are all tight A4’s and G4’s, so no not supported. 3:00 is a more opened A4 but still the larynx is high.
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In first time , I thought he used falsetto thorough the song . Also , I struggle to sing along his note without using falsetto . So he didn’t use it ???
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The notes you pointed out were all mixed.
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what note was dongho’s falsetto in this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6udtWq7LW18 around 2:16???? was it relaxed and with good placement???
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The placement of the F5 isn’t bad, but too breathy.
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A bit off topic, but does Daniel (the guy who sings after Baekho in the chrous around 1:13) sound like a tenor to you? He has this really husky voice when he raps, but he seems to be fine phrasing A4s in Open Up. Here’s a vid of him singing around G4/A4 without too much struggle for Pick Me for reference around 0:16: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-pNY0r6r6k
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He sounds like a baritone to me, he’s mixing too early.
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Well, there is struggle, but more ease than a normal baritone would have within that range ^^
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was baekho teaching the right way to do runs in this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJzuBURSsdE starting at 1:25?????
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Not specifically, no. Just a specific part of a song, not runs.
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but that part is a run right? did he separate the notes well??
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It was a really quick run, but it wasn’t complex. It had like 3 or 4 notes.
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Hi i’m sure you’ve had enough with produce 101 topic haha
But i just want to ask do you watch the show and who do you think are the best vocalist there?
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I do not watch the show because I know the best vocalists to come out of the show aren’t higher than average to above average vocalists. Aside from the vocal instructors annoying me, me being too busy to watch that and the fact that out of 101 trainees, the best vocalists are like 5 to 10 average or average to above average vocalists, I don’t find any motivation to watch it. lol Sorry.
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thank you so much for the reply
i totally understand that haha i’m struggling to choose a better trainee in term of vocal especially the popular one lol
btw my replied earlier i write it without knowing you replied me already haha that’s why i didn’t put it here
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That’s fine don’t worry about it lol
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btw i’m still learning about vocal technique like this and i really enjoy your analysis
I’m still, however, sometimes unsure whether the notes are supported or not when watching some performances 😦
can i ask you in this video, is his high note (g#5 (?)) supported or not? i guess at 1:43
thankss
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It is not supported.
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ugh *g#4
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it is not? i already watched your tutor to check strained voice but now i’m confused again haha
But i realize his earlier part is strained tho
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*just by the performance they showed if you happened to watch it
sorry in advance if i bother you by asked that btw
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Like Jaehwan or Baekho, I am not sure.
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Hi, can you tell me the notes he hit here and if they were supported and if he strained? Thanks ^^
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G#4’s and Bb4’s, all strained indeed.
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I know its not related to Baekho or Nuest, but can you do vocal analysis of Jaehwan?
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Unfortunately as you can see in our future analyses list, we’re not taking requests right now. Eventually he might be analyzed, if he debuts as a solo since Wanna One will disband after a year.
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MEU DEUS, vc fala ptbr? O.o
OMG
Enfim, queria peguntar, tem gente que acha que ele foi o melhor vocalista do Produce. Eu sei que vc não analisou os outros, mas vc viu pelo menos um pouco entre os “concorrentes” desse posto (Jaehwan, Sewoon, Sungwoon)? Eu (em nenhum conhecimento vocal, só na minha “percepção”) acho que essa tensão toda nas high notes dele não permitiram ele pegar esse lugar não! Eu apostaria no Jaehwan…
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sem****
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Eu diria que não tem grande diferença mas o Jaehwan parece ter uma técnica um pouco melhor.
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Hi,
I’m starting to get into Nu’est and I was wondering how Baekho sings here (particularly his Falsetto)? What notes does he hit? It sounds strained towards the end…
Heres the link:
http://www.vlive.tv/video/36776?channelCode=F59133
His part starts at 1:17
Thanks 🙂
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1:34 C5’s, that’s the highest. The rest are phrased mixed voice F4’s and G4’s, generally he’s pretty relaxed and the support is consistent throughout. The falsetto isn’t very strong, it’s not supported, it’s not a head voice.
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Were the phrased G4´s supported?
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There was like one phrased G4 and it seemed to carry support, but not clean connection.
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Atleast not a bad thing
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Wow, thank you for the analysis. I want to ask, is there any improvement from him in here? He is sitting tho, but he rarely sings this type of song https://twitter.com/mumal721/status/893902903827603456 with this too he start at 04.01 https://youtu.be/lMUPFM9FgNs
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In 말리꽃 I don’t hear improvement but this isn’t that recent, he also sounds kind of tired and he’s pushing through fatigue. 4:35 very tight Bb4 followed by a strained pushed A4 to G4 with a slightly pitchy run at 4:38. In The Reason Why I Became A Singer he sounds really thin and tight throughout, he is squeezing his throat a lot but the song is going around G#4 to B4 a lot, which is way outside his supported range. What do you mean this type of song?
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I think Dong Ho hit an A5 here 😉
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You’re right! Thank you!
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I wanted to ask, what is the note that Baekho hits at 1:06, 2:13 and 2:34? 🙂
By the way, I recommend the whole song, it’s pretty cool!
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Bb4, Bb4 and C5 to D5. They’re all strained, if you were wondering.
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Oh yeah, I know this much, I’ve learned from your videos! 🙂 But I am still trying to train my ear to get the notes. It’s also out of his supported range and I’d be immensely surprised if he actually got it right lol. Hope he’ll improve at some point, since Nu’est is getting more recognition :). Thank you!
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dongho sounds like a male demi lovato with the no naslity but never resonating and too chesty with belting too high. still love him tho
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I don’t know why but I’m always thinked this thing too!
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Out of curiousity, how is Aron? In “Where You At,” it seems like his voice is sometimes supported, although idk since I’m just extrapolating based on how other vocalists are classified as having support vs. not.
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I don’t remember him showing support at any point.
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Just wondering. . . Why hasn’t been NU’EST’s Minhyun been analyzed yet, even though he’s the lead vocalist of the group? Unlike the reasons for why BTS’s Jin and Jimin haven’t been analyzed, I didn’t see any reasons for why Minhyun isn’t on this blog.
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Oh, I can reply to that! 🙂 Ahmin has stated before that Minhyun’s technique makes him fall into a Weak category and that as far as I remember he’s really shallow or shows no real support in his singing. Hopefully I helped! 🙂
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Thanks for the clarification!
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The first reason is that NU’EST has 2 rappers and 3 vocalists, half of 3 is still 1.5. Now comes the fact that Baekho is an average vocalist and is NU’EST’s strongest vocalist. Then add lack of requests on top of lack of vocal development. We don’t analyze vocalists with poor vocal skill just for the heck of it. We do analyze vocalists rarely requested when they’re skilled because we want their skills to be honored. But a vocalist who has poor breath support and underdeveloped technique on top of not being requested almost at all will hardly get us to analyze them, unfortunately. I hope I don’t sound too harsh.
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No, it’s understandable when you think about it. If an underrated K-pop vocalist actually has wonderful technique, then you’d definitely want to positively expose him or her to the public through a vocal analysis. Anyways, thanks for the reply!
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Yeah but a not as popular vocalist being analyzed and it being a negative result wouldn’t be a positive thing to do either for him. I’d much rather help him than doing that.
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And yet you analyzed BTS *laugh* double standard, as expected.
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Hello there! I’m not sure what inspired this comment, perhaps you weren’t able to read my reasoning nor be very familiar with our rules so I’ll take my time to explain again because your insinuated accusations can lead other readers to have some sort of twisted suspicion towards us. I don’t like misunderstandings, especially when they’re caused by ignorance and lack of research. So maybe you didn’t hear, but our rule is we only analyze half of the vocalists within a group, so that already justifies why BTS, a group with 3 rappers and 4 vocalists had half of 4 = 2, analyzed. That alone should be enough reason but this accusation of double standards really bothers me, perhaps you got me on a bad day.
I’ll do the math again. NU’EST, 2 rappers, 3 vocalists, 3/2 = 1.5 which we almost always round down. But that’s not all! As I said, vocalists who are not very skilled, not requested often and lack in material don’t usually get analyzed because we simply favor those either more requested, more skilled and/or who fall under the half rule. As you see Min-hyun does not satisfy any of those rules, which is true for T-Ara’s vocalists other than Soyeon, MYNAME’s vocalists other than Gunwoo, Fiestar’s vocalists other than Linzy, Boyfriend’s vocalists other than Hyunseong, etc.
If I were you, before making accusations about double standards just because you think everybody on the Internet is an anti-fan trying to make your favorite idol be forgotten and discriminated against, I’d go and research thoroughly because all of these reasons, standards and explanations are within the blog. We have better things to do than to purposely have double standards, bash, hate or discriminate against people. This isn’t a fan blog for us to express our personal bias, this is a blog for education. Don’t confuse us with the plague of fandoms. Thank you.
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And since I’m already here I’m just gonna leave this here cause someone may ask about it 🙂
Baekho’s parts: 0.55-1.17, 1.32-1.38, 2.04-2.28, 2.43-2.54
How did he do?
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He is pushing air and closing his throat with a high larynx on the choruses because they’re sustained G4’s and A4’s, where he doesn’t support. 1:32 ~ 1:38 strained Bb4 at the end, and the runs weren’t smooth. He is not dropping his jaw enough to keep the sound more relaxed. He did as I’d expect, the usual.
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Hey there. In Nuest W´s new Single “Dejavu” Baekho hits a note which seems quite high although it´s really hard to hear, so I thought maybe you would be able to help me?
So the Note starts at 2:58 when he sings “Dejavu” in the background as an Adlib. The only thing I figured out is that he´s singing in mixed voice and it seems around C5-F5 but i´m really unsure. I mean if it´s higher than D5 wouldn´t it also be the highest mixed note he has hit so far? Thanks in advance and have a nice day ^^.
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I think it´s an C5/C#5. Atleast if I try to sing the note he sings, it seems to be an C#5. I mean I only use a pitchapp on my phone but it was pretty reliable up until now and also my voice kinda sounded similar to Baekhos.
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It’s an octave unison with the melody, it’s a falsetto Eb5 I believe.
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Awww okay thank you ^^ atleast I wasnt thaaaaat far off it just sounded like a mixed note which in the end switched to falsetto 😦
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He finally make it to King of Masked Singer, did he sounds thicker then usually?
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David Beckham? How sporty of him. lol Unfortunately videos from Korea are blocked for me.
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ohhh that’s sad 😦
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I don’t think this one is blocked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcaFJ_iT6Do
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Hello! Baekho and minhyun performed a cover of lost stars at kcon. Can you please do an analysis for minhyun? Has he improved his technique as he sounds so good? Here is the link, the performance starts at 1.30 –
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