Girls’ Generation’s Vocal Analysis: Taeyeon [Newly Updated]

Vocal Range

D3 ~ C6 (2 octaves and 5 notes)

Supported Range

G3/G#3 ~ C#5/D5 (without head voice)

G3/G#3 – C#5/D5 ~ F5/F#5 (with head voice)

Voice Type

Soprano

Strengths/Achievements

  • Consistent forward placement in the A4~D5 range
  • Consistent resonance in the A4~C5/C#5 range
  • Consistently supported up to C#5/D5
  • Occasional resonance up to D5
  • Forward masked placed sound in the chest voice
  • Supports and projects down to G3/G#3
  • Has done supported Eb5s
  • At times head voice can be produced up to B5 and resonance up to F#5
  • Capable of doing runs with good flow and pitch accuracy
  • Healthy vibrato is produced with good support
  • Stable pitch majority of the time

Weaknesses

  • Pitch can be inconsistent
  • Faster runs can be sloppy and inaccurate
  • Support above C#5/D5 is inconsistent
  • Lower register below G3 becomes really airy
  • Inconsistent with vowels

Registers

  • Lower register: Since her debut, Taeyeon’s lower register has improved significantly expanding from Bb3/B3 to G3/G#3 since 2007. Her lower register has far more connection and projection than it did before.  Taeyeon carries decent support down to G3/G#3, however her voice has the most projection in the G#3/A3 range. Below G3 Taeyeon’s voice becomes very airy and unsupported, but she maintains a neutral larynx.
  • Mixed register: Taeyeon has consistent support up to C#5/D5 and consistent resonance up to C5/C#5. She generally produces very open and resonant notes in the A4~C5/C#5 range and occasionally up to D5. Above D5 Taeyeon’s voice becomes tight and strained.
  • Upper register:  Although Taeyeon actively switches back and forth between falsetto and head voice it is safe to assume she uses head voice. Taeyeon, when not using falsetto, can carry a supported head voice up to F5/F#5 though not resonant. Above F#5 her head voice and falsetto become very tense and shrill.

Agility

As a vocalist that trained under The One, who incorporates many runs into his performances, Taeyeon herself has developed a fair share of agility. Though overlooked in previous years, in 2015 Taeyeon made point to demonstrate her skill when it comes to agility. The most noticeable piece is “Check” from Girls’ Generation’s Party single which is filled with numeous runs from Taeyeon, similarly “Bump It” from the Lion Heart album also features many runs from TaeYeon as do many of the songs from that album. However in 2012 Taeyeon showed she was definitely capable of doing complicated runs live with her various performances of “Lady Marmalade” with Tiffany.  Taeyeon has shown she is best suited for slow to mid-tempo runs with faster runs she tends to lose control and rhythmic flow and her pitch tends to go off.

Overall analysis

TaeYeon made her debut in 2007 as the main vocalist and leader of South Korea’s leading girl group Girls’ Generation. Since her debut Taeyeon has made a name for herself as one of South Korea’s top idol vocalist and one of their most respected singers because of her many OST with her 2008 OST “If” being her most popular and the one that put her in South Korea’s eyes as a vocalist. TaeYeon is often praised for her ability to convey emotions as a singer. Composer Yoo Youngseok expressed his feeling about TaeYeon’s voice saying “Taeyeon feels like a woman who has been divorced 7 times”, meaning she is able to sing about heart break and parting well. Label mate JongHyun of SHINee expresed his agreement with composer Yoo Youngseok’s comment about Taeyeon saying, “I also feel that [Taeyeon’s] voice sounds like a woman with lots of experience of love and parting.” He reveals that he has felt this way about her ever since they were both trainees and Taeyeon “was born with the talent of expressing her sensitivity” showing his appreciation for his  label mate’s skill.

During her rookie years, TaeYeon used more chest resonance in her chest voice; therefore causing her to have a richer and fuller tone production. However later on, she switches to a lighter, brighter and slightly airier approach.  For example in her 2008 performance of “Reflection,” TaeYeon utilizes a significant amount of chest resonance in her chest voice and mix resulting in a richer and more womanly sounding tone, as opposed to her performance of “I Love You” in 2013 where tone quality was lighter and brighter in her chest voice and mix. This change is even noticeable when comparing mixed voice notes from then with more recent ones. For example in the way she approaches the C5 in “Dear Mom.” The C5 from this 2009 “Dear Mom” performance has more chest resonance and slightly fuller tone quality, whereas the C5 from this 2011 “Dear Mom” performance has a brighter tone production, but better resonance. Her switch to a lighter approach is neither negative or positive as it does not positively or negatively affect her voice.

In her mixed register Taeyeon uses a lighter and brighter approach , especially when compared to the beginning of her career. At the beginning of her career, Taeyeon had considerable development up to C5/C#5 accompanied by a strong, forward, and resonant sound within that range. For example the C#5s in “Baby Baby” had consistent support and occasional resonance, especially the C#5 from this “Baby Baby” performance having full, forward and resonant quality. She has also produced many good notes from this era in the Bb4-C5 range as well, for example in “Want and Resent” resonating C5s. Also during this time TaeYeon supported a D5 during her radio performance of “Counting Kisses with You.”  Although this D5 in particular was not resonant, it had connected support and power. However, this was a very rare occurrence. Taeyeon’s mixed voice above C#5 was very underdeveloped at this time which resulted in many of her D5s from “Into The New World” being strained.

Fast forward to 2010 not much happened for Taeyeon technically, except for her having her first studio F5 in “Wake Up” from the Hoot mini album in 2010. In 2012 SM Entertainment introduced the Girls’ Generation sub-unit TTS featuring members Taeyeon, Tiffany, and Seohyun. The unit’s primary purpose was to showcase the vocal talents of those three members. “Twinkle”, the leading track, required Taeyeon to sing F#5s in every performance. The F#5s in “Twinkle” proved to be incredibly difficult for her; not only were they were the strained, but also many of them fell flat because she did not have vocal stamina for them. Not only was she required to sing the F#5s in “Twinkle”, but also “Baby Steps” which was also part of the Twinkle mini album. Those F#5s mirrored the quality of the F#5s of “Twinkle”:strained, pushed and flat. After consistently straining her voice during that promotion period, Taeyeon began to have difficulty singing above C#5. In 2013 Girl’s Generation released ”Dancing Queen” and “I Got A Boy” both less taxing vocally than “Twinkle” and “Baby Steps”, however she was still unable to handle the D5s because of effects of the previous promotion.Although the “Dancing Queen” D5s were all quite strained and pushed 2013 was still a good year for her vocally. In 2013 Taeyeon produced some of her best C5s/C#5s and even had some success above above C#5. For instance Taeyeon’s C5s in “Lost in Love” had a very clean resonance and even vibrato; she even managed to bring resonance and support up to Eb5 while performing “Express 999” several times.

Taeyeon has made significant improvement in her mixed register by expanding her support range from C5/C#5 to C#5/D5. The D5 improvement was first noticed in the Lion Heart album released in August of 2015 in songs like “Green Light” and “Bump It.” The sustained D5 in “Green Light” had strong support and an open sound which was very different from her D5s in previous years, and the phrased D5s in “Bump It” also had good support. Taeyeon solidified her improvment with her performances of her song”I” from her solo EP I. Moving forward, Taeyeon D5s have become fairly consistent with support, for example her D5s in “Fine”  from her My Voice album were supported with good placement having a strong and full tone quality. However, she has a tendency to push her D5s because of them being at the top of her supported range, for example her D5s from performance of “Fine” on Sketchbook. However Taeyeon has shown she is completely capable of producing resonance on D5, for example her D5 in “U R” from her Butterfly Kiss concert and her D5 in “Feel So Fine” from Persona; despite the quality of the fancams, both notes have a very supported, projected, and clear sound.

Similarly to what happened in her mixed register, Taeyeon’s lower register has improved significantly over the years, expanding from A3/Bb3 to G3/G#3. Taeyeon for a long time had issues singing below A3 as her lower register was quite underdeveloped. This was especially evident below G3/G#3. Below that her voice would become very airy, quiet, and lack projection, for example her performance of her OST “Missing You Like Crazy” in which she sings many F3s which were consistently airy and not completely pitch centered. G3’s also posed a problem for her, for example the G3 in “Promise“, though there was significantly more connection on the G3 than the F3 that followed, it still sounded uncomfortable for her to hit. In recent years, Taeyeon has become more solid and consistent supporting G3/G#3 for example her G3s in “I Got Love” had a very full tone quality and projected well as well as sounding very comfortable and easy for her. This is because the muscle co-ordination in that area has strengthen and she is also committing to her chest voice better.

Taeyeon’s head register often flips between falsetto and head voice from what seems to be for stylistic purposes.  Her head voice has a fairly decent connection and support up to F5/F#5,but above that, in both falsetto and head voice, she becomes fairly tense and shrill. In more recent years, TaeYeon has significantly improved in the G5-B5 range being able to vocalize more easily up there. For instance, her B5 in “Fine,” although strained, has significantly more openness and support than her Bb5 in “Gemini” from her mini album. In addition, she has also shown more openness and resonance towards the top of her supported range, such as her F#5s from “When I was Young” which had a very strong connection to the support system with a very pure and whole sound.

Musicianship

Taeyeon is not one for dramatics when it comes to her singing. She’s definitely a fan of keeping a performance sensible and well within her means vocally. She’s a vocalist that likes to carry a performance by conveying emotions through phrasing.  Taeyeon definitely is not a high flying belter, as she stays in more a medium high to low vocal range maxing normally out at F3/F#3 and Eb5/E5, which is fairly consistent with her OST’s and vocal range in Girls’ Generation albums. Although of course there are exceptions to this, as she is occasionally challenged outside that range. Taeyeon’s performance of “Moonlight” is a great representation of her stylistically choices, as range wise she stays somewhere within the G3/G#3 ~ D5 range which is very reasonable for her vocal skill. This performance showed off her resonance in the A4 ~ C#5 very well as it was concentrated within in that area. TaeYeon’s solo album is a good reflection of her as a vocalist as the songs are very different than what is on the Girls’ Generation albums. Her style seems to be more mid to slow tempo songs in a lower range. A good example of this would be “U R” with a range of E3 ~ F5 centering more around the A4 ~ D5 area, which definitely was intentional as that is where she does well.

Rating

Proficient Vocalist

Vocal Range Video(s)

Videos by: Ahmin (Kitsunemale)

Video by: Avatarkyungsoo

Best Vocal Performance(s)

 

 

Analyzed by Pandayeu
(Originally analyzed by zhx)

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977 thoughts on “Girls’ Generation’s Vocal Analysis: Taeyeon [Newly Updated]

  1. hello! could i bother you guys to ask you about taeyeon’s head voice in this performance?
    particularly the f#5’s in 2:48 and 3:15 & the e5 in 3:25

    (hope that embedding worked)
    i’m pretty sure the e5 is supported, but i’m a little less sure about the f#5’s

    anyways, thank you guys for your hard work!

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    1. Both of the F#5s and E5 were supported in head voice. Goodness this song is so beautiful. It truly is only of my favorites off the My Voice album it seems so personal to her and the vocal direction is just beautiful. Those head voice notes were really pretty some of her best especially the first F#5.

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      1. i know, right? i thought her head voice sounded gorgeous there, but i just wanted to be 100% sure about the technical aspect of it haha. thank you!

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    2. she seems to be getting better at head voice!! I think she’s been practicing her technique and it’s so nice to see her developing her voice ❤

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  2. Can someone tell me if her notes in D5 for feel so fine, fine, and you are are resonant? Is her head voice F#5 and B5 resonant? D5 is starting here at 10:56 and head voice near end of the video.

    So sad she did not come to the Philippines i want to hear her sing

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      1. Sorry, it is appearing in my comment for me but maybe it is an error. here is the link again thanks

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      2. This video is fairly long are there any ones that you are especially wondering about? Because there are many D5s in this video and it’s kind of hassle to go through and filter them lol.

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  3. Is this okay? sorry i cannot narrow it down more i can not tell which are better than each other
    1)11:14-11:20
    2) 12:28-12:48
    3) 12:57
    4) 3:13/22/31
    thank you for analysis!. and F#5-B5 is at 17:31

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    1. 1. The first one is a little bit closed because she didn’t really do the vowel correctly, however it is supported. The second one is a lot more opened I wouldn’t necessarily call it resonant, but it was fairly open and the placement was good.

      2. For the first one..again it’s the vowel. Oh really isn’t her vowel. It’s an open vowel, but somehow she closes the back of her throat when singing on it. I should add this to her analysis. So the second is a lot more open and forward due to the video quality I can’t really say it’s resonant..Third D5 this one is really nice. I would call it resonant. Fourth D5 this one was tight like the first one.

      3. This one was a little bit tight. I feel this is from the days when she was probably tired.

      4. She pushed it just a little bit, but the support was there. 2nd D5 this one was resonant. 3rd D5 This one was open and supported

      4. The F#5s were really good they were popped forward very nicely they had a good resonance to them. The B5s were strained.

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      1. Thabk you lots and lots for answering pandayeu! Did she show any sign or form of improvement since her latest comeback?

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      2. Like consistent improvement? No, however I was impressed by some or her Eb5s and E5s they werent really supported, however they were a lot more open and free.

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  4. Ahmin/Pandayeu or anyone, correct m if i’m wrong please :

    Low notes :
    Tiff/Jessica > Seo/Tae >>> Sunny

    Mixing :
    Tae >> Seo/Sica > Sunny/Tiff

    Head Voice :
    Sunny > Tae > Seo >> Tiff > Sica

    Pitch concistency :
    Seo > Tae/Sica >> Tiff/Sunny

    Agility :
    Tae > Seo/Sica > Tiff> Sunny

    Overall :
    Tae >> Seo/Sica > Sunny > Tiff

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  5. Hello guys :)) I red this comment on/in (weak english😂 It’s on isn’t it 😏) youtube and I honestly disagree with it just because ally+Perrie Eb5 seems more comfortable than taeyeon then they are better ! If they all aren’t supporting no one is technically anything better right ??? Also taeyeon did show support i believe 4 times in her Eb5 while they didn’t… ( I’m not trained but I do think something is off on Perrie D5 she seemed comfortable till C5/C#5) , since you’re not analyzing ally or Perrie I won’t complain but is his opinion right about tae? here’s the comment ——— teayeon is consistently supported up to C#5/D5 still her D5 is inconsistent, and she’s resonant consistently up to C5/C#5. Perrie is supported up to D5 consistently and resonant up to D5 consistently. The placement of Perrie is better in the middle register, and her upper register has less tension than Taeyeon, Taeyeon had a lot of tongue tensions in the upper register lol.. In the head register Perrie is consistently supported up to C6, which is better than ally, and resonant up to B5/C6, while Taeyeon is supported up to F5/F#5 but with NO resonance and her support is still really inconsistent in the head register, her placement is pretty average in this register. The only register when Taeyeon is better is the low, Perrie is supported down to A3 and below that she sings with an low larynx, while Taeyeon is supported down to G3/G#3 and below that she can sings with an neutral larynx. Globally Perrie is proficient to good, Taeyeon is proficient, so obviousely Perrie wins. Ally is proficient to good too. Taeyeon’s mixed register is the weakest here. Ally’s low register and middle register is better than Taeyeon. Falsetto’s notes of Taeyeon are really shrill, while Perrie’s falsetto notes are well controlled and are relaxed. Globally : Perrie > Ally >>> Taeyeon. Perrie and Ally are on the level of Luna, not Taeyeon. Taeyeon’s Eb5 is strained, pushed, very tight and at time closed throat. Ally’s Eb5 is better because she has less tensions and is more relaxed. Both of them are unsupported above D5. So yes Perrie and Ally are “much” better than Taeyeon…..

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  6. Hello! I love your blog and this analysis im so happy I found it. I have a few questions if you don’t mind.
    It says in the strength and achievement part: “At times head voice can be produced up to F#5/G5”
    Shouldn’t this be B5 because Fine performances or she is inconsistent other than that?

    You also talked about her using a chestier mix before and now a lighter one. Is this something she can change at will?

    When she regressed above c#5 is this due to physical damage to her vocal chords?

    Could you tell me what notes are at 0:19, 0:25 and 0:38? Are they resonant/supported or did she struggle?

    Lots of question hope you didn’t mind

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    1. 1. I just haven’t gotten around to updating that. Also it doesn’t really matter because it’s still strained. It doesn’t make a real difference y’know?

      2. Her mixing style changed due to her using a more effective and healthier technique. It doesn’t really have much to do with her stylistically, but yeah she can change it depending on what she is going for.

      3. Well, I can’t really answer that for certain because I can’t look inside of her voice lol. But the regression was the result of fatigue and not using a very effective technique.

      4. They’re all supported.

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      1. Ah, since it is strained the only thing that would mean is she has the range which isn’t that important correct?
        For the video, were you able hear what notes those were? And if you say supported that means they are not resonance notes right? Thank you!!

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      2. Yeah pretty much. They are all D5s I believe. Yes, that’s exactly what the means, however I don’t like judging notes based of fancams because of all of the noise pollution, feedback, and overally quality. So those notes could be resonant or something, but I am edging on the side of caution.

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  7. Sorry if this is too many questions. Could I just get an answer for the last 2 instead about the regression above C#5 and the video thank you !

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  8. Hello! I was wondering how many times does she need to support Eb5 until it can be included in her supported range ? How exactly do you measure consistency? I’m sorry if that sounded rude or anything. I’m genuinely intrigued !

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    1. I feel I have answered this before on this same analysis lol. There really isnt a set number we just have to play it by ear really. I don’t know how to explain this because I can’t really use numbers for it. But really Taeyeon isnt close to having Eb5 in her supported range, at least not yet.

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      1. I see.. and I apologized for having you to answer it again ( didn’t go through all the comments in its entirety ) I feel like setting up a certain standard would be a good idea but I guess it doesn’t really apply to everything lol. It does sound silly to put numbers for it. I can’t wait to see her improve more though and I’m a big fan of the blog!

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      2. Yeah, we just really can’t lol. Because let’s say they only have two Eb5s and both of them were supported, well that’s not consistency because we have only heard two Eb5s. So we cant really say they support Eb5s when we dont have enough information. It definitely takes a lot of performances lol

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  9. Do you agree if i said taeyeon have rock styled vocal ? Which is quite rare in kpop , it shows in the way she sang & more importantly , the genre she chose for her singles ( pop-rock ) , she reminds me of Kelly Clarkson or alanis morisette . Pop-rock genre seems to be her favourite & the style she chose to express herself as singer.

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    1. I’m not really familiar with rock music, however I don’t really believe saying Taeyeon sings with a rock style is the most accurate. I mean I don’t really know; I haven’t put much thought into it.

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  10. Hello Ahmin or Pandayeu,

    I just noticed Taeyeon seemed to be belting a E5 here:

    Devil’s Cry L.A. 2012 live

    1.Can you let me know how the note was hit? @ 1:35

    2. Also at the beginning @0:30-0:40, is that her voice? Is she using vocal fry to sound so different?

    Thank you!

    Sara

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      1. Thank you for the fast reply Ahmin3! So this note is well supported but not resonant because it is pushy? Pushy = shouting quality?

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      2. She sounded tight and somewhat flat. 0:55 was better, it lacked the pinginess of the placement for resonance. So yeah just supported, Taeyeon gets fatigued easily.

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      3. if it is tight does that mean it was strain?
        You say that Taeyeon gets fatigue easily. Can I ask what is the relationship of this to how she did in the performance? Is that why she was tight?

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      4. It means there’s tension. It’s only strained if it’s too tight. Yes, Taeyeon sounded fatigued and lacked stamina.

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    1. She has been so busy with her solo album + concert then 10th anniversary so she must be fatigued as you say.

      Do these mistakes she makes when she is fatigued are considered as flaws in her technique and consistency, and is getting fatigued easily considered a weakness?

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      1. I can’t say for sure, to an extent it’s technical, but many times people are just more prone to getting tired and are less resistant. Which is why we can be lenient towards fatigue.

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  11. Hi, there is new reality show called Idol School i’m sure you’ve heard it

    Can i ask was this girl really good in singing, her score in singing was the best among others

    Her name is Natty i already time tag it here

    thank you

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      1. Too many people are asking about this. I’ll copy-paste:
        “She didn’t give her a perfect score, she just said perfect in English. I don’t see the part where there’s a score like 100/100. She was just complimenting her expressiveness and her Korean, she wasn’t talking about her singing technique at all actually.”

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      2. whoa really? i tried search with some keyword in this blog but couldn’t find it that’s why i asked here. sorry for that

        she got 9.8/10 score. and what i wonder was, is she actually singing well and compared to others?

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      3. I would rather not comment on her singing or anybody singing on that show because I don’t think any of them, the ones I heard, were singing free of tension at all and this song only goes up to B4.

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  12. Hi there, this is Taeyeon’s D5 in her debut stage (1:06)
    Could you tell me is that D5 supported?
    Thank you with love.

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    1. Im not going to watch it, but if it’s not Tae>Seo/(Jess)>Sunny>Tiffany then it’s not correct. We have our analyses and a chart already ranking them, therefore if it is anything than those then we don’t agree with it.

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  13. Hi,
    I see you guys are adding stuff from My Voice and 2016-2017 updates. You guys also left a random ‘in addition’ with nothing else. Are you guys updating her analysis? Has she shown any noticeable improvements has her support become more consistent with Eb5s? Has her resonance become consistent on her D5s? Thank you! 🙂

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    1. Oh hey there lol yeah I am sort of live editing her analysis right now, so there are some awkward portions in there. This analysis is long and I just wanted to make it more cohesive lol. Ummm where is that random “In addition”

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      1. It’s at the end of the third to last paragraph in the overall analysis part. No update on her techniques though?

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  14. Hi, SNSD’s new songs have come out now!

    I was just wondering what note Taeyeon sings at 2:42. I think it’s a C6 but I’m not sure.

    Also, the quality of it sounds different to her B5 in Fine, it sounds a bit more airy?

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    1. She pushes air on that B5 as is, so she’s probably just pushing more on the C6 because it’s a higher note that she can’t support. From what I gather, that’s pretty much how strain works in general – the higher you strain, the easier it is to hear.

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    1. These are studio recordings, we can’t account for consistency. 7:03 and 7:25 both sound resonant. 7:11 7:22 Seohyun sounds relatively tight, but bright in her mixing.

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  15. Hello, I thought I should point this out in case you guys wanna fix it. At the end of the 3rd paragraph under Overall Analysis, you guys talk about how she strains her D5s in ITNW but the link lead to an I Got A Boy lyrics video. 🙂

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      1. Ah … it’s only cos you said probably yes to the original question so I thought ‘wait did she ever support E5 though so how can she do it more often lol’

        also do you have any comment on her Eb5s recently? any improvements?

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  16. Hello. SO right now my vocal coach wants me to learn taeyeons I and they wanted me to sing “my life is a beauty” with a chest voice. I’m not sure if that’s how you’re supposed to belt because my chest voice can’t reach it. I thought you belt with a mixed voice? Please help I’m so confused.

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    1. Some people use the term mixed voice and chest voice interchangeably, because a chest-dominant mixed voice sounds a lot like just chest voice to some and I’m sure what they mean is don’t do it in head voice nor falsetto. So mixing is fine.

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  17. Hi, there! I just saw that her strenghts section has been updated to “At times head voice can be produced up to B5 and resonance up to F#5”, which is awesome! I’ve always been told that she can’t resonate in her head voice! Can you show an example, please? ^^

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    1. There are examples in the head voice section of her analysis. Check like “when I was young” as well “because you loved me”

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      1. Thanks a lot! ^^

        Well, just now I saw that the analysis was updated as a whole lol it was a nice read, as usual 🙂

        Another question: Do you think that she made good improvement since her analysis was posted? Because I feel like she is slowly getting better and better since 2015 (proud fanboy here, lol). And is she close to surpassing Jimin? Or at least any closer to Jimin than she was when the chart was posted? Please don’t get me wrong, I’m not bashing Jimin, just interested about Taeyeon’s improvement. ^^

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  18. i know this performance is old and that you guys have probably been asked about it before, but i was wondering what your thoughts were on taeyeon’s head voice here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUIAzSiWvQA. besides the strained, flat eb5 belts, i always thought this performance was kind of nice, and i was wondering if the head voice eb5’s were resonant?

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    1. 8:32 those sound tight but 8:44 wasn’t bad, it was placed well and the throat wasn’t really closed. 8:57 not approached badly, just a bit thinned out.

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  19. Sorry i mean to say in recent months this 2017 compared to the previous time. SO if it is not supported all the time that means she is straining those other times right? Does she still strain pretty oftenly?

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  20. hi! i don’t know if it’s the studio editing that’s playing tricks on my ears (since this /is/ lipped after all), but was the e5 at 3:04 supported? i saw it in a vocal battle and was really surprised by it.

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    1. 2:00 D5 the vowel could’ve been more opened and she could’ve pushed less, but the support was there. 2:43 She started kind of flat and went more into pitch, again she is not easing her way into those D5’s. She is pushing them out with just enough support that I’d say they’re support, but they sound like the limit of where her support can be pushed.

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  21. Hi admins! I have a question about Taeyeon’s D5s. I was reading previous comments and I noticed a lot of mentions of her being fatigue and having she ends up pushing on D5s. Would you consider her able to consistently produce resonance on them if she is well rested? Also I want to ask what issue of Taeyeon right now is the easiest to address that would lead to improvement?

    xoxo thank you for your analysis!

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    1. You’re asking a what if question. I’m sorry and I don’t mean this rudely but unless I’m part of this alternative reality in which she sang these D5’s without being fatigued, I can’t really guess if they would or not be resonant. She can sing resonant D5’s, that’s a fact but het consistency comes down to too many variables.

      The easiest issue to address? I’d say how she approaches her mix, she’s inconsistent on her airflow vs stretch of the vocal cords which is what causes her to push instead of allowing her vocal cords to stretch free of tension to get these notes out.

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      1. It doesn’t come off as rude at all! I understand what you mean. I was thinking because she is aable to sing resonant D5s from time to time live, and I think almost all her, I guess you could say important, D5s in the studio lately have been resonant that it suggests she can produce it consistently if she is in good condition.
        Thanks for the answer!

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  22. Hello. At 3:43 how come on the high note her voice is disappearing and losing power while Shen holds the note?

    Comment higher in the page says her high notes in one last time we’re almost not supported also. Do you think Taeyeon is regressing? Her high notes used to sound better and more powerful before. ☹️

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    1. It could be fatigue, but it’s also partially because she let the placement of her voice go inward instead of outward, which made her unable to place the sound and keep it resonant. That’a a D5, it’s the top of her supported range for a reason. No, she is not regressing, just calm down. lol You guys overthink too much sometimes. If a vocalist regresses, it will be obvious in every single performance. You have to take into consideration fatigue as well.

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    1. There have already been people who asked about it in the comment section. It’s pretty good, she has this one really nice Eb5 and generally it was very smooth musically.

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      1. Can I ask how were her high notes between 0:57-1:11, 2:07-2:21 and the one at 2:59. Can i also know if those high to low parts like in 1:11-1:12 are considered runs?

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      2. 0:57 ~ 1:11, 2:07 ~ 2:21 She starts the melody with C#5’s, with Eb5’s and F5’s also as the higher notes. There’s support being carried over to the Eb5’s, but there’s more constriction from the throat where they’re kind of closed, she’s not fully relaxed, she’s pushing more air than she needs to but she’s mixing brightly enough to minimize strain. 2:59 Pushed Eb5. 1:11 ~ 1:12 Yes that is a run, it isn’t smoothly executed though.

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  23. Hello again! I just have 2 quick questions.
    1) How was the D5 at 3:49 and is that type of posture bad?

    2) How were the D5s in 2:10-2:16? Are those short types of notes harder to hit well than long notes?

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    1. The posture is definitely not favorable but the D5 had good placement, it was just too pushed. She is pushing through fatigue in that D5. 2:10 These D5’s for her are better, a lot of less pushed. Theoretically phrasing should be easier cause you don’t need the muscle to be as developed as when you sustain a note, but it’s different for everybody.

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      1. Are these both the same video? Did you post the wrong link for the first video? 2:20 is B4, 2:27 is also B4. They’re resonant.

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      2. oh i am sorry the first video link 2:30

        i was confused about the volume of her voice her voice often sounds bigger than this

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  24. Hi, sorry, it’s the old one, but lately I just curious about what note it is? That 4:21 (heart, adlibs(?))

    Is it head/mixed voice?
    Does anyone have heard it live?
    Thank you ^-^

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    1. It’s an F#5, it’s mixed and it’s sung by Yoo Youngjin. It’s a known kind of fact amongst us, the background high note in the boys after Taeyeon’s E5 is sung by Yoo Youngjin.

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    1. 4:31 pushed but supported D5. 4:42 Supported but the placement went inward. 5:11 Taeyeon does not support her head voice this high, it’s mostly pushed and somewhat strained, B5.

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  25. Hi! I just want to ask about Taeyeon’s high notes here at 5:39 and 5:58. Are they resonant? And the one at 5:45 seems to be a higher, is it still supported or already strained?

    P.S. I really love browsing your blog during my lunch break!

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    1. 5:39 D5 sounds supported, but it was a bit thinned. 5:58 D5 it’s not badly placed and it supported, but she’s pushing too much. 5:45 The quick E5 is thinned out and I wouldn’t call it supported but it’s a huge improvement from how she used to approach them back in the day.

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    1. I hear tension and support on the Eb5’s, but the reverb and like overall studio effects are masking a lot of the quality and making her voice echo throughout so I can’t say for sure.

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  26. may i ask why can’t you consider her Eb5 a part of her supported range ? i mean isn’t it possible she is not consistent with her upper supported notes ?
    and who has better mix tae or eunji ? who is more balanced , consistent and resistent in mix only ?

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    1. Because she still strains Eb5 more than she supports them. You answered your own question if she’s not consistent than we can’t include it. also regarding their mixes…I feel like their analyses answer that question.

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      1. but alot of vocalists analyzed are not consistent with their upper supported notes and still it is considered their supported range
        and if i can get who is better from their analysis ,i wouldn’t ask

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      2. Exactly who are you talking about? Taeyeon is still too inconsistent on Eb5 for me to be comfortable saying it’s a part of her supported range. Well, that’s because in their mix they are both fairly even. Eunji is slightly more consistent of D5, but that’s about it. Other than that they are pretty much the same.

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      3. @kpoplover thing is, I’m pretty sure I can count the number of times she was fully supported on Eb5 with my fingers lol, out of the many many many times she’s done Eb5. So while others get a note in their supported range even if inconsistent like D.O. with Bb4, there is still a degree of consistency even if not too much. Taeyeon’s supported Eb5’s seem to still be just random good moments (for now at least, since she seems to carry support up to Eb5 more often now, but not enough to say the note is fully supported) Let’s just hope she continues to improve 🙂

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    2. Not admin, but a vocalist needs to reach a level of consistency on a note. If it’s included in their supported range, then that means it’s generally a safe bet to expect them to support in that range. Tae’s support on Eb5 is pretty uncommon, so a few instances of support can’t justify adding Eb5 to her supported range. I believe Eunji is more consistent on D5 and has supported Eb5 more than Tae has.

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      1. To elaborate on your points (which I all agree with), I think the only things keeping Taeyeon higher on the list than Eunji are better agility and head voice. When you look at the ranking chart of idol vocalists, the difference between the two of them is really small

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      2. Eunji has more supported Eb5’s than Taeyeon? I think it’s the other way around, but I’d love to see! Been looking for supported Eb5’s from her other than that one with a red jacket on in a practice room haha

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      3. @avatarkyungsoo Oh I may be mistaken; my hearing support is still far from good. But Eunji has supported E5s, so maybe that made me think she’s more consistent on Eb5. Not great reasoning, I know.

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      4. I think she also only has that one supported E5, from her performance with Yoseob (beast) linked in her analysis 😦 I’ve been wanting to make a video for her so I was looking for good notes above D5 but haven’t found yet aside from the 2 i’ve mentioned. If you have any performances in mind, would you mind giving me a message? lolol avatarkyungsoo@gmail.com or @avatarkyungsoo on twitter 😀

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    1. Tiffany’s run is really sloppy. It’s too many notes, too complex, too long and she is not hitting the notes clearly at all. She is purely sliding through the notes, it’s not much of a run. It really lacks in precision of pitch, rhythm and there’s no separation. 2:56 ~ 2:59 for Taeyeon is kind of similar to Tiffany’s, kind of sloppy and sliding. The beginning of the run wasn’t bad at all, but the rest just kind of lost the separation and precision. These are kind of more complex runs.

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