Super Junior’s Vocal Analysis: Sungmin

Vocal Range

G2 ~ B5 (3 Octaves and 2 notes)

Supported Range

Eb3 ~ D4/Eb4

Voice Type

Tenor

Strengths/Achievements

  • Placement is more opened when belting
  • Lower range is connected and shows support down to Eb3
  • Tends to keep tone even below his supported range
  • Vibrato is healthy and steady
  • Chest voice shows support up to D4/Eb4
  • Pitch is mostly on point during vocal performances

Weaknesses

  • Larynx raises above D4/Eb4
  • Support is somewhat shallow and causes tone to be thin
  • Lacks depth in tone and roundness
  • Tends to place his voice in his nose
  • Lacks support below Eb3
  • Falsetto is less controlled, issues with pitch
  • Vocal runs are often sloppy and pitchy
  • Mixed is underdeveloped in range
  • Mixed voice is too chest-dominant
  • True resonance is never produced

Registers

  • Lower register: Has shown improvement not only in tone production for this register, but also overall support. Tone is present below his supported range but generally has issues with keeping true support below D3.
  • Mixed register: Mixed voice is extremely underdeveloped in both range and extension. He mixes with too much chest-dominance and has weak support, causing his mix to lose support very early on around D4/Eb4.
  • Upper register: His falsetto register is generally underused and like most of the rest of his range, he generally relies heavily on his throat rather than true support when singing in this register. The tone is generally weak, airy and shallow.

Agility

Not being a vocalist who relies heavily on gimmicks on complicated vocal articulations to make his message come across, Sungmin is not very influenced by R&B music. As such, he has not shown that he’s worked on being able to produce vocal runs with proper technique at this point in time. Having said that, he is not one to want to add many vocal runs, but when he does, it is clear that he lacks the ability to fully anticipate each single note with centered pitch in his runs, resulting in often pitchy and sloppy runs with a lack of good rhythmic flow and precision in pitch. When it comes to slower runs, he is able to slowly sing through the notes with more clarity in tone, such as in “가로수 그늘아래서면” and “봉숙아“, but they still lack correct rhythmic flow and sound laggy in terms of delivery due to the lack of breath support used to approach these runs. He tends to sound considerably messier and pitchy as runs get slightly faster, such as in “그게 아니고“, or more musically complex, such as in “Baby Baby“.

Overall analysis

Debuting in Super Junior ’05 as a member in 2005 and later becoming known as an official lead vocalist of the group with fellow member Donghae, Sungmin is a vocalist who’s had very little highlight in Super Junior songs over the years but nonetheless was always able to stand out on his own for his numerous talents. For years he’s been able to show not only his ability to play musical instruments and compose, but also his acting abilities in his roles in many musicals as well. With a very boyish, youthful voice that lies somewhat low in tessitura, Sungmin’s voice would most likely be classified as a light lyric tenor with a very sweet and light tone overall.

The lower part of his chest voice is one that seems to have shown some improvement in tone production over the years than the other parts of his voice. In the past, he used to show issues with keeping his vocal cords connected below his supported range, such as the C#3’s in “사랑합니다“, where his voice would seem rather uncomfortable and out of place. Compared to more recent performances, Sungmin is now able to keep a forward chest placed sound in his lower range, such as the C3’s in “가로수 그늘아래서면“. Although the connection of his vocal cords has become better and tone is present below his supported range, true support is only present around the Eb3 and E3 range and above, such as the Eb3’s in “가로수 그늘아래서면“, and E3’s in “내 눈물 모아“, and below that he tends to show a more misplaced sound that isn’t true to the tone of his voice due to the lack of proper breath support employed to produce the lower part of the third octave, such as the D3’s in his “Three Musketeers Musical “, C3’s in “지금 만나러 가요“, Bb2’s in “Way Back Into Love“, A2’s in “Falling Slowly“, G2’s in his “홍길동 Musical“.

The biggest issue present in Sungmin’s singing lies on his inability to truly apply correct mixing technique when it comes to his higher range. He has the tendency to pull too much chest voice up in his mix and rely almost solely on his throat for his higher notes. This issue is not truly present in his chest voice as he has shown many times that he is able to sing a more or less relaxed tone in the range from E3 ~ D4, where his voice is soft and tension is very little or not present, as heard in the D4’s in “Falling Slowly“, “무조건 직진“, “무조건” and “I’m Yours“. Occasionally some support is carried over up to Eb4, but generally his mixed voice is produced with a lot of tension from his throat. Sungmin’s breath support is very underdeveloped which causes him to produce tone almost exclusively through his throat. As such, he’s unable to use proper support to produce a more balanced tone with the use of both chest and head voice in order to blend his mixed voice properly. This causes his tone to over sound pushed out, thin and shallow, shown in many occasions, such as the Eb4’s in “지금처럼” and “明日のために(For Tomorrow)” E4’s in “그게 아니고“, F4’s in “물들어“, F#4’s in “잠들고 싶어 (In My Dream)“, G4’s in “요리왕“, “My Love“, “가로수 그늘아래서면“, G#4 in “Story” and A4’s “기적” and “욕심쟁이“. As a tenor, his mixed voice is generally underdeveloped and lacks in terms of extension as he’s only shown to be able to mix as high as Bb4.

His upper register is never truly produced with enough connection, not allowing him to blend all of his registers together. His support is generally shallow, which causes him to produce a shallow tone. He is unable to produce a connected head voice since his vocal cords never truly come together with enough contact to maintain a good tone production up in his falsetto range. Not only that, his placement in his falsetto generally is quite inward and causes his voice to sound whiny and not project very well. His vocal cords mostly become disconnected, causing his falsetto to be somewhat unstable, pitch to not be centered, air to come through his cords, and for his tone to be overall weak. Transitions also seem to be more of an issue and pitch isn’t always precise in this part of his voice for such reasons, as heard in “Just When I Needed You Most“, “Nothing Better“, “Story“, “Super Junior High Note Challenge“, “Baby Baby” and “그게 아니고“.

Apart from his transitions and his runs, Sungmin’s pitch and his overall ability to control his voice well in terms of volume considering how weak his support is, works in his advantage. He may not be a powerhouse vocalist, but he never tries to be one, and he has a natural gift for music that allows him to be sensitive enough to musical choices regarding harmonies, dynamics and even musical compositions. Other issues present in his voice limit how much he’s able to deliver the musical message of a song in his vocal performances, such as the placement of his voice being heavily in his nose, often causing his tone to be thin and whiny and easily overpowered by vocalists who are able to understand mask placement and true resonance better than him.

Musically, Sungmin shows that he is able to captivate his audience by using a mellower and softer approach to his singing than truly promoting himself as a power vocalist. When given the choice to perform solo, he is not one to show off complicated vocal runs or impossibly high notes. Instead he usually focuses on showing his musicality and ability to perform well with others as a duet partner or instrumentalist. Although it is true that Sungmin’s singing technique is very underdeveloped, his current skill level is enough for him to go on with his career under the style of singing he seems most interested in, such as soft acoustic songs. If he were to further pursue a career as a vocalist and go for more vocally challenging songs, it’d be advised that he’d undertake vocal lessons in order to avoid damaging his vocal cords and voice overtime due to the generally damaging technique he uses in his singing.

Musicianship

One of the highlights of Sungmin’s musical abilities lies not on the fact that he’s a very skilled vocalist or a vocalist who tries many risky things when singing musical covers. Instead he takes the time to properly learn songs with good care for the pitch and overall musical delivery. He is able to perform his own vocal performances with his own skill of being able to play guitar and the piano as well. Not only does that show his artistry, but also where his strengths lie, such as songwriting. He is able to hold his ground well when it comes to vocal harmonies and has done so in many occasions such as in “봉숙아” and “How Am I Supposed To Live Without You“.

Rating

Weak Vocalist

Best Vocal Performance(s)

Analyzed by Ahmin (Kitsunemale)

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113 thoughts on “Super Junior’s Vocal Analysis: Sungmin

      1. No, considering that Sungmin is the only vocalist we analyzed from the others…everybody else would fall in the weak rating with him.

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  1. At the Weakness section, “Lacks support below C3” so is the C3-D3 range supported?

    Tbh when I started reading, i thought he right be weak-average, but then his supported range is kinda similar to Jay Park’s so… then again Great analysis!

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  2. An SM vocalist listed as weak? What is this blasphemy???? Lol

    Anyways, he was the very first Kpop vocalist that I ever noticed (since Happiness was the very first Kpop song I actually heard and liked), Donghae being the second and Ryeowok being the third, haha. While reading through the analysis though, especially compared to the others listed under weak, he seemed more like a 1.5 but oh well, it’s kind of sad to see any vocalist that’s been in the industry for years (especially a decade) being considered weak. You’d think they’d shown at least a noticeable improvement over time like how Taemin did.

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  3. at this rate, im not sure that donghae is a vocalist. i like donghae as a person, but his voice is nice too. what vocalist he would be rated? worse than weak?

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  4. WHAT!!! I can’t believe it that he’s a weak vocalist :O so he’s about the same with henry and donghae? Is there a member stronger than this beside KRY(Z)beside?

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  5. Kind of amazing how SJ have from Good-Great to Weak (and possibly below that). Make me wonder what SM actually do, like shouldn’t they share the same vocal coach? And Sungmin’s even done musical! He should have some vocal training, right?

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  6. alright this really blew my head off haha. I guess he was just the same as Zhoumi when I asked about the differences between the two the other day 😀

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  7. haha why is everyone freaking out for the first sm vocalist ranked as weak
    you all should be proud instead for someone not in the official vocal line ranked as a vocalists even only weak

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    1. They start mixing at D4 or Eb4 actually, that’s their first passaggio usually, if they’re light lyrics or just full lyrics/spintos.

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    1. Considering Hyoyeon is SNSD’s 2nd weakest singer (Yoona being the worst), and the fact that she shows little range even in their studio recordings, it’d be hard to consider her better than anyone that’s considered a vocalist.

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  8. This was a really interesting read, thanks for the analysis!! As a hardcore Sungmin stan, I can say I’m not surprised. If anything, one of the traits I admire the most about him, is how he carefully choses the songs he’ll play/sing during his solos, he definetly seems keen on a softer approach to the public, as you mentioned. Instead of marketing himself as a potential KRY member (which he was planned to be, until Kyuhyun was shoved into the group) he focuses more on the performances themselves, or so it seems. It was refreshing to read such a well crafted analysis of him, since he’s often not really taken into much consideration, especially lately.

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    1. Yeah I thought it’d only be fair to analyze him and I had personally believed he was going to be rated higher until I listened to him with more care. Nonetheless, he deserves an analysis as a lead vocalist and I hope at least it helps fans understand his singing better.

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  9. Dang this surprised me just because KRY and Zhoumi were all A to AA or higher, so I thought he would have been just average or something. Just wondering, but how far apart do you think vocalists should be? Because there are some groups where the vocalists are pretty close in level, but then there are groups where it’s like Super Junior haha. Also, what do you think should be the minimum for someone to be a main vocalist in kpop? Sorry about all the questions, I’m just really curious. Thank you and I really liked this analysis, it was really surprising!

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    1. Oh I’m glad you liked it! Well it’s hard to be sure, it’s a personal opinion but a stronger vocal unit has vocalists with similar vocal levels and at least one above average vocalist should be good.

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      1. Thank you for the reply! I agree though, it’s always kind of weird when a group has one really good vocalist and then the rest aren’t anywhere near that one vocalists level, but that’s just my opinion.

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    2. I think it’s ok to have 2 or 3 good vocalists in an idol group which forms their vocal unit and the others can be average or weak even since i don’t think a kpop idol group is expected to have all its members talented vocally, I mean they have positions such as center or visual so yeah xD. And SJ’s 3 main vocals (KRY) have solid vocals, not counting Zhoumi since he’s technically in M. Still, that’s better imo than groups where the vocalists are not far from the other members, meaning all of them are just average and the ones given the main/lead vocal position are just the best of a mediocre group (in terms of vocals) or project the best they can sing.

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  10. Yey! You surprised me again with another analysis from my ultimate bias group! I love Sungmin’s tone and I even usually prefer his voice over Ryeowook’s but then again we are talking of technique here so can’t complain with the rating you gave him. I hope you keep the SJ analysis coming! I hope you can analyze Kang In next. I’ve always considered him as part of the vocal line. Well, there are six people that I consider as the vocal line of the group, not sure if you’d agree with me. This is the only song they did together and I kept wishing they’d do another one with all six of them. Thanks again for this!

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    1. That was actually the last member I’ll analyze from SuJu. Haruko will analyze Henry though, so look forward to that at least! You’re welcome!

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  11. I’m surprised you think he’s weak! I remember on a comment somewhere you said he seemed at least like an Average Vocalist. But thank you for this vocal analysis, it was very interesting to read

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  12. Sungmin, the jack of all trades! The most well-rounded member of Super Junior! Thanks for the analysis! Amazing as always 🙂 Though I didn’t expect him to be a weak vocalist, it wasn’t entirely shocking because he never project himself over and beyond. As a fan, I love that about him. He knows where he is skill-wise and although he maybe isn’t satisfied about that he seems comfortable being behind KRY as fans are more critical of them and give them more pressure there.
    I’ve always found him a steady singer, a reliable voice amongst a group with more than half not vocalists as members XD He stands out in that regard. All is good though. When he comes back and as he ventures into whatever area/s he tries next, I hope he continues being a passionate performer. Thank you again!

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  13. Haha Kyuhyun has to give him some vocal lessons. I never really liked Sungmin’s voice that much and honestly so many people get Suju’s vocal rank wrong. ALOOOT of people think it’s 1. Yesung 2.Ryewook 4. Sungmin 5. Donghae. I do not understand why everyone thinks Yesung is the best when I put Kyuhyun and Yesung’s analysis up to their face. Lol it’s so hard dealing with extremely biased friends

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    1. Remember though that when it comes to singing, most people hear tone and tend to associate range (high notes more or less, regardless of how well they’re hit) with quality singing. It’s an issue with Filipino singers since many of them constantly try to show off by injecting as many high/power notes as possible into their performances.

      It’s why Jaejoong was the main vocalist of DBSK despite Junsu being superior, because he has a much more soothing tone (and according to my sister, it gives her the feels, haha). I actually like the tone of both Sungmin and Donghae and in general, my favorite singer tends to be the best vocalist of the group (Minzy, Hyorin, Eunji, Junsu, Sanduel, Yoseob) although there are cases where I favor one of the weaker ones because of the tone of their voice like Onew, Tiffany, and although I’m sure Primary doesn’t have any good vocalists, I love their singing due to the soul they have, same with 2Bic (although they sound like potentially good vocalists).

      As for your friends, don’t just smack it in their faces “who’s better” because that makes it harder for them to take you seriously. When I talk to my friends about it, I educate them first on the difference between a vocalist and singer but at the end of the day, regardless of skill, if the music we hear is appealing, that’s what we hold onto (for better or for worse).

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      1. Wow you made some great points. I did exaggerate on putting it up in friends face but telling them a difference between a singer and a vocalist is a good way to say it. I think more people think Yesung is the best because of how his voice is, they like the tone to it and it’s beautiful. I mean he’s competent which is really good but I think people just underestimate Kyuhyun. Kyuhyun can control his voice like no other. Well that’s my opinion and I respect other opinions too!
        Yeah sometimes my favorite voice is not the best vocalist like D.O, Taeyang, Hwasa etc.

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      2. Totally agreed. I usually love the best vocalists (Hyorin, Minzy, Eunji, Luna, Haeri, etc)
        But sometimes some voices are just so aesthetically pleasing to me. I know Kyuhyun and Taeyeon are the best in their groups, but I can’t help but love Sungmin, Jessica, Seohyun and Ryewook’s voices the most. Idek, but when I heard it in Super Generation’s “SEOUL”, I just about died for those three’s voices. I like Tiffany’s too, but when Seohyun does her harmonization and angelic adlibs, I just about die. Funny enough but I was never touched by Taeyeon’s vocals. Eh.
        I really agree with you.
        It’s nice to have an unbiased analysis on vocals, so we can be objective, but in the end, no matter how great or weak the vocalist, people will chose the voice that is most aesthetically pleasing to them. We all have our own taste, and whether or not the vocals are weak, we will love the voices we find pleasing.

        Anyway, great analysis ahmin. It really helped clarify things up.

        I can’t help loving Sungmin. He’s just too cute for me really 😡

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      3. Yeah I agree. Sungmin is really cute! Yeah like I’m D.O biased and I can’t understand why Chen and Baekhyun are better but I’m still open minded. But his soothing voice and those runs O_O
        OMG I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO BECAME NOT SO INTO TAEYEON VOCALS AND MORE INTO JESSICA AND SEOHYUN! That was about 2 years ago for me but now after listening to UR, this girl can do so much! Don’t hide that resonance.

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  14. Hi random question lol.

    idk where I heard this but does cardio has something to do with singing? Because after I run for about 30 minutes on a treadmill, I feel like my throat is kinda “loose”. I can project notes more comfortable and I can hit higher and lower notes than I usually can.

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    1. This should probably be directed at their vocal technique post. You should check it out here: https://kpopvocalanalysis.wordpress.com/about-our-criteria-disclaimer/an-introduction-to-vocal-pedagogy/vocal-technique-part-1/

      But I think cardio has a lot to do with singing because cardio improves your breathing and breathing is one of the fundamentals of singing. From my understanding, you can only sing with proper technique if you breathe properly.

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    2. Having the throat be loose, not really. Cardio helps with stamina for sure, so like Beyonce runs on the threadmill and sings so she can build up stamina to do a concert and run around on stage and still sing well. It’s more of a performer thing and a health thing than a solely singing thing. However if it helps you feel more loose, then that’s something that works for you and you should use that!

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  15. Since I’ve been reading this site for quite a while now, I thought I was better at guessing which rating different people would be, but I guess not lol. My complete lack of vocal talent and knowledge still hasn’t changed much apparently. I thought he’d be about Average, but I guess it’s because I really like his voice and thought he had more technical prowess than he actually does. That makes me nervous then for Henry, one my ultimate biases. I’ll try to not be sad if Henry is also weak, which is probably what will happen, because I adore his vocal tone but he isn’t amazing in the technical aspects. Oh well, still a good read and it’s fun to be shocked at ranking sometimes. XD

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    1. I was expecting him to be average too, I was even trying to see if he was a baritone which would explain his issues on D4… but he isn’t.

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  16. At the same time that I’m surprised I’m also not actually. I thought he was average before I started really listening to him. One of those times was on the Bonamana era and Kyuhyun was absent for a few performances, you could just tell that Donghae (as expected) and Sungmin, really struggled to sing his parts. That surprised me at the time I really thought we was better. Actually all performances without Kyuhyun were kinda blah, it just shows what a good vocalist can do in a group.

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    1. I like the fact that he worked his way around that last line on 0:34 and 0:43. But yeah, I kinda get what you mean. Don’t get me wrong, but I like it when Kyuhyun covers Shiwon parts when he’s absent.

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    2. Actually, this was the time when I thought Sungmin was overrated as a vocalist. Don’t get me wrong fellow ELFs, we all know Sungmin’s worth but his other skills are probably better than his vocal skills. Although of course, Kyuhyun’s voice is omnipresent in Bonamana and his parts there especially the one which Ming covered was probably the hardest. 5 years later and i’m still wondering why they didn’t let Yesung cover that one or just let Wookie continue that part.

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    3. Is because he is flat. Bonamana isn’t exactly a singerly song, but that line is a tricky mix of seconds and thirds and such.

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  17. wow considering how well SM coaches are… i thought at least he’d be average. i guess that explains why he has been a middling guy, like a good combi of everything, but lacks of one brightest skill.

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  18. HI ahmin, I love you 🙂 … I wanted to ask something about snsd’s yuri, I know you don’t care about non-vocalist but since you have said that yuris is better than weak vocalists I wanted to ask what makes her better, if you coud replay I will love you forever ❤

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    1. First of all thank you haha I really can’t say for sure because I don’t follow her enough, she has somewhat better support than many other weak vocalists but the support is shallow and she has issues with an underdeveloped mix and nasality, so I can’t say for sure what makes her better because it’s just support that’s somewhat better. As for the future analyses, you should check the list of the analyses we’re going to analyze next. Boa is going to be analyzed very soon actually, Key is not going to be analyzed, at least not for now. Leo and Ken should come soon too, Wendy only after enough material is out and Roy Kim eventually, I will enjoy analyzing this baritone. ^ ^

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      1. Thank you so much, I love you forever ❤ ❤ ❤
        And yeah I'd really like to read what do you think of Roy Kim, I'm inlove with his voice, would it be too much to ask what would you rate him based on what you've heard of him ??

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      2. I know you said you haven’t heard enough to rate Roy Kim, but would you mind sharing what you think of him o: ? I’m a fan of his and I’ve been curious about whether he’s stylistic singer like IU or Taylor Swift as opposed to a technical one, mostly because of the genre he sings. Then again, I feel like he’s aware of the limits of his voice and doesn’t really mix higher than a baritone should? Idrk, I’m just curious about Roy Kim ;;;. I understand if you haven’t heard enough for this either tho ^^.

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      3. I really don’t think much of him at this point, he is not that stylistic. I’ve heard some good things from him, I just can’t tell you exactly what. He doesn’t mix too high but he has a nicely developed mix for a baritone, I’ve heard him mix G4 and A4 and it wasn’t that bad at all from memory.

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  19. Guys, Why does he not in Weak to Average? I see that his low note already support in average category even the high note still in weak category

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    1. He can’t sing above his first passaggio with proper technique.. That’s quite important. Plus if you look, the only person whose lower range allowed a boost was Jung Yonghwa and he’s weak to average, so Eb3 does nothing for Sungmin.

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  20. Hello , Red Velvet just released a new song today , it’s called ” Wish Tree ” and i think you guys need some material for Wendy & Seulgi analysis ? Theres a lot of low notes at the beginning … Thank you 😊

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    1. Yes he’s weak. He’s a baritone with weak support, often places his voice in his nose and sings mostly through his throat. Shallow support is present perhaps from C3 ~ C4, at most for him from what I’ve heard.

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  21. Wow am a bit surprised at his rating since I consider Sungmin the next best vocals after KRYZ. I first noted his vocals in Suju- Trot lol since he was the best in that sub-unit. Which in retrospect just means he’s the best among people who aren’t really vocals lol. Anyway he has a sweet stable voice and I guess it still says something that he’s learned to work with the vocals that he has. Appreciate your analysis of the SJ vocals! Thank you!

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  22. Sungmin is one of my favs in SJ although he can sound nasal which i am not very fond of. i don’t mind on vocal power much but the singing and sound. maybe bc i even like D&E more than KRY. i think more than being among main vocals he fills the chorus anyway. he is one of the members who is heard in live chorus. he is like a middle member, sings enough, dance enough acts good enough. plays guitar good enough. he says he isn’t master in one thing but can do several stuff. i call him allaround member of SJ.

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  23. Reading this, I was reminded of a SJ vocal ranking by SM staff that SM released back in 2010. Fortunately the members of KRY were in the top 3 (though weirdly in reverse order of what we have today), and Sungmin got placed at #4. Obviously it’s massively misleading since KRY have much, much better technique than all of the other members and therefore the gap between #3 and #4 would have to be huge (would you say all the non-KRY members would be rated Weak for technique?). But maybe you’d like to take a look for a good laugh: https://sujuinsider.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/super-junior-2010-sm-entertainment-staff-ranks/

    (Disclaimer: I am an ELF and Kyuhyun/Sungmin fan but I’m not going to kid myself about non-KRY vocal technique lol)

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  24. hello! i’ve been lurking and reading your analyses for months now and it’s what got me interested in singing. i have a few questions. how do you know if you’ve achieved resonance? i’ve read in your posts that it happens if the throat isn’t closed and if the placement is right, but i can’t seem to differentiate the two. or is it the same thing? 😮

    i’ve been trying to hit high notes and my throat doesn’t hurt, but the sound comes out very small and childish. is there a possible way to remedy this? also, would it be all right if you could try to give a comment on my singing as well as tips on how to make my interpretation of songs sound better? i feel like the sound i make lacks depth, while i’ve heard other vocalists sing the same thing but hold so much meaning. is there a way to mimic emotion? i’ve tried to think of feeling the emotions, but the sound doesn’t change much for me. :/

    i hope you see this comment and thank you so much for your work! it wasn’t only entertaining but it was also very educational (still pretty shocked because i considered ming at least an average vocalist huhu). please do keep the analyses coming & more power to you guys! 😀

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    1. Resonance is hard to identify on your own at first, but it feels like your voice is echoing inside your head, mouth and outside. You can hear it hit the walls and back at you, you feel strong vibrations in your mouth and in your cheekbones, but everyone feels it differently. Placement means forward in your mask, the throat being opened isn’t directly related to that. It could be that your mix is very head dominant thus your tone is small and childish for now. Emotion is very subjective but the way to express it is through stylistic approaches, airiness, huskiness, harshness in tone as well as being very aware of your dynamics and playing with the dynamics in your voice. You can show us your singing and we can see what’s going on. ^ ^ Yes Chen’s analysis is being rewritten so it can be more accurate with his improvement overall, his rating might not change though. Thank you for your support!

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      1. oh wow you reply fast! 😮 i don’t think i’ve ever experienced that singing with my mixed voice (to confirm, it’s chest then mixed then head, right?), since it feels like i’m pulling my chest voice and there’s a huge disparity with the mixed and the head. D:
        i think i’m getting placement. so basically it varies where your voice is, like if it’s at chest or head? 😀
        so /emotions/ are mostly technical, all one has to do is to mimic the right sound? i think i’m getting it!!!! interpretation’s always been hard, which is why i admire artists who can give songs life, as cheesy as that may sound. i guess i just need to practice mimicking more along with maintaining pitch, which is pretty hard to focus on alone :/ haha huhu
        thank you so much omg that would be really helpful D: here are short, less than a minute clips of my singing: https://soundcloud.com/jasmineclaire1214/drunken-truth (middle-higher range), https://soundcloud.com/jasmineclaire1214/rainbow (lower range), and https://soundcloud.com/jasmineclaire1214/think-of-me-der-holle-rache-mashup (random high notes, not sure if i hit the ones in the original song but that’s probably as high as i can go for now) :(( i feel like my head voice is developed but it’s too different from my chest voice that i don’t know how to merge them better huhu. do you have any tips? i want a more united, one sound – like wow some people have that! imo when’s is pretty disconnected ( <3) but i've heard chorale singers with a really unified sound WOW
        omg that's awesome thanks so much i look forward to it!!!! i really appreciate that you guys are rewriting chen's (already pretty thorough for a novice like me) analysis into something more up to date (he's been killing it lately! esp in sing for you perfs <3) and accurate!! 😀

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      2. Yes chest then mix then head voice. Yes but you can place your chest in your mask or place your mix in your head or chest and you could place your head in chest actually, it depends on the sound you want to produce. Emotions are subjective, people use the word emotions loosely like it means anything but many times, it means nothing. “I feel the emotions of the singer”, that’s a personal opinion, not an objective truth that can be perceived by everyone in the world as the same. However interpretation can be taught and to sing with “emotion” comes from knowing how to change your voice appropriately to sing a song correctly.

        For Drunken Truth you actually have a very nice tone but singing a song that’s not in a language you’re fluent in or comfortable speaking can trick you into singing incorrectly because you’re focusing too much on pronunciation and not enough on the singing aspect of it all. You can project well, but you tend to have occasional jaw tension and not place your voice correctly. You need to open up the back of your throat more, try taking in a nice breath and wait for a cold feeling to come in the back of your throat, as if you were eating a mint. Make sure you stay relaxed, your shoulders don’t move. I think right now support and pitch should be your focus, you tend to lose your center of pitch and become flat a lot. Are you able to hear yourself going off pitch? You also should make sure you stay relaxed. Your head voice is connected for sure and the placement isn’t bad, but the pitch isn’t precise and in general you tend to be a bit off here and there with timing, you sometimes push your phrasing and you tend to sing a bit too fast then too slow and change the tempo of your song constantly. So focus on taking your time with pitch, timing and breathing, then focus on other things, okay? ^ ^

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  25. oh, thank you 😮 that makes sense! focusing on the pronunciation did take away my focus on the technical aspects of singing. i did hunch my shoulders, and my jaw did go tense (though i didn’t realise it while i was singing, so thanks for pointing that out!). and you’re right, i should focus on my support, since i realised a lot of things are tied to it (?), like being able to hit the right notes or not breathing in between phrases. to develop my support, i just have to keep singing different types of songs, right? 😮

    about the pitch and timing issues, what blows is most of the time i don’t realise i go off pitch and lose my timing. is there a way to remedy this situation? i’m fine when i sing along to songs, but when i start singing to instrumentals, i’d go off pitch, and when i start singing acapella, i’d go off pitch and timing, which is very frustrating huhu, especially when i feel like i’ve listened and sang along to the song so many times, but still get it wrong. are these muscle memory things, or something deeper? is there a way to make practicing (i practice by singing whatever i can) more effective to remedy this faster? :/

    also, about keeping an open throat, is my throat supposed to mimic the how my throat looked when i inhaled? i tried inhaling with a small breath, but i got cold air as well, so i’m a bit confused. :/ and should it be hard to keep an open throat? i tried to sing with my throat in that position, but i got tired pretty quickly. :/

    is drunken truth too challenging for me? i’m struggling to sing the low parts (i’m singing along to gavy nj’s cover, since the male covers confuse me. i don’t know where to get my pitch huhu), even if i’ve been told my voice is deep when i speak. i used to think that the song’s within my middle range, but now i’m thinking it’s too high for me, especially the last part, where i can admit i go flat because i’m struggling to reach the higher notes. :/ may i know where i sound most comfortable in, like a general idea of notes, if you don’t mind? :/ drunken truth is a nice song to practice to, but i feel like it’s very out there huhu

    maybe i’ve said this too much but thank you so much omg!!!! you’re really helpful and i’m sorry i have a lot of questions D: did you major in music at uni, because the analyses here are pretty thorough and you really know what you’re talking about!! it’s pretty cool that you’d choose to study the vocals of korean idols! ^_^

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    1. I’d also advise you to take care of your voice, drink lots of water and do simple breathing exercises where you focus on your diaphragm, throughout the day. For you to help yourself, you can record and listen back to your singing and see if you’re able to hear yourself going off pitch. Also practice singing with the song, with an instrumental or even with a metronome. Yes your throat is supposed to stay the same shape when you breathe in as when you sing yes. You can feel the cold air with a small breath as well, but do try to breathe in deeply. You have to make sure you stay relaxed and breathe enough. Actually your head voice isn’t a bad place in your range and your mix goes high already, Drunken Truth is just a bit challenging for now so try to sing songs that are a bit lower just for now. Oh yes haha I majored in singing and two of us here work as vocal instructors, including myself. Haha You think so? I’m glad to help. ^ ^

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  26. This is interesting considering he was probably the best one back at their debut. Yesung and Ryeowook still needed to really find their voices back then, especially Ryeowook. I never knew Donghae is a lead vocalist, I thought he was just rapper/vocalist, Eunhyuk is probably better than him. I still love all of them though.

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  27. Thank you for your analysis, I was wondering if this means that apart from kry the rest are weak and would that be considerably good since they aren’t all vocalists?

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    1. Considerably good? Mhmm no being weak as a lead or non vocalist is still not favorable, no matter what. Average would be more of a compliment. Yes the rest of SuJu is weak vocally.

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  28. Do u mind giving a short analysis in this perf? I feel like sungmin did improve a bit but can’t rly pinpoint what it is orz

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    1. But this performance is from 2009? You mean improve since 2009 up until now? The verses sound a bit too airy and mushed, he is not projecting well, Kyuhyun’s harmonies in the chorus are very nice. I think Sungmin may be focusing too hard on his guitar playing, so he gets a bit too nasal and goes flat sometimes, like at 2:27 2:34 2:45 and such. He has a pretty voice for sure, but yeah I’m not sure I’d say there was improvement, this is definitely not one of his best performances though. Not bad, but he was not putting much emphasis on technique.

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  29. I never really thought that Sungmin had good vocal technique but I’m still sad that he’s considered a weak vocalist. I guess, just like how he always surprises me, I thought I’d be surprised that he was actually good. Unfortunately, my previous assumption was right after all haha

    I actually wasn’t going to comment but when I saw the number of responses to this and read them I just had to say that, technique really isn’t everything after all. It’s important of course because, as a singer, it’s their responsibility to take care of and improve their voices but. But! Having the ability to leave an impression to the audience, to actually ~move~ people and have them ~feel~ the song, is very important too. That’s entirely subjective of course but Sungmin does that for me and that’s enough. I just wish he would undergo some vocal training like you suggested! If he can already move ~me~ with his voice as it is, what more can he do if he fixed his vocal issues, right? XD

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    1. I think your comment is very valid and I really hope most people can start to understand what you’re understanding and stop fighting about rankings, or who’s better than who and appreciate each vocalist individually and understand we’re all human, we’re all imperfect and we all have room to grow. ^ ^

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  30. i don’t know if it’s right, but i think it’s going to be like this more or less, right?

    Kyuhyun > Ryeowook >>> Yesung > Zhoumi >>>> Kangin > Sungmin >/ Donghae >/ (Heechul, Leeteuk, Siwon, Eunhyuk, Shindong) >> Henry?

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  31. The pharse “Although the connection of his vocal cords has become better and tone is present below his supported range, true support is only present around the Eb3 and E3 range and above, such as the Eb3’s in “가로수 그늘아래서면“” make me confused, what is “true support”, can you explain it to me?

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    1. What part of that makes you confused? True support is the presence of true connection of proper stretch of the vocal cords while maintaining the right necessary amount of air pressure to keep the vibration of the vocal cords present in order to produce and control pitch. True support happens when you breathe into your diaphragm properly and allow it to hit the vocal cords without any sort of throat, jaw, nor tongue tension, without singing in your throat and without adding too much air pressure.

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      1. It’s implicit. It’s not something you say. No no, you didn’t understand. Throat, jaw and tongue tension are bad things. He doesn’t support C3 because he lacks the breath support necessary, that’s it. That’s what support is and he doesn’t have it. The reason is the lack of support, it’s not tension, it’s just the absence of the connection of proper airflow and the stretch of his vocal cords.

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  32. Hey Ahmin, did you analyse Sungmin because you knew or thought he’d be on the stronger part of the Weak vocalists ? I find it weird that Sungmin receives an analysis whilst Suho doesn’t (since they’re both Lead Vocalists, and Junmyeon is even more of a Lead than Sungmin if we consider the lines he receives). Then again, the reason you don’t do Suho might be the same excuse for rejecting Jimin in favour of V

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    1. EXO has 9 members out of which 3 are rappers. 3/6 vocalists left is half. Super Junior has 11 members, minus 3 rappers. 4/8 vocalists is half, that’s the initial reason why, it’s nothing deeper.

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      1. No, not necessarily if the vocal average isn’t high. We didn’t analyze more than one member of B1A4, T-Ara, Apink, Miss A, etc for that reason.

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