Vocal Tips For K pop Fans #3: Vocal Registers

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  1. Off topic question. LOL

    Are you familiar with Lorde? I know she’s a bad vocalist but I want to know her voice type? Is she an alto or a mezzo? Wikipedia says she’s a contralto but I doubt that since she sounds like mezzo in majority of her hits (Royals, Team, Tennis Court) and darker soprano in “No Better” yet her voice in “Yellow Flicker Beat” and “Glory and Gore” sounds so dark for mezzo.

    Here’s the link of the songs I mentioned in case you haven’t heard those:

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    1. I’m not sure, she could be a mezzo but I don’t believe she’s a contralto at all. She is definitely either a soprano or a mezzo but it’s hard to tell when her voice is underdeveloped.

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      1. As expected. I’ve actually seen lots of vocal analyses blogs which claim Lorde is contralto when obviously she’s not. Well, her speaking voice is manly, though. LOL. Also, some claimed Taylor Swift is an alto. I find that funny. She’s obviously a soubrette soprano. Same with Britney Spears. =_=

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      2. Britney Spears may be a mezzo according to some, I can see how it could be haha but yeah soubrette makes more sense.

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      3. Have you actually heard Britney perform without lip-syncing or record a song without (abusive use of) autotune? I wonder how does she sound. (To be honest, I never like her songs.)

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      4. She used to sound nice and yknow with support and pitch, now pitch is a problem and so is everything in her singing, sadly. I’ve heard acapellas from earlier in her career that were nice.

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      5. So, Britney can actually sing? :O Wow. I thought she’s like Kesha. LOL.

        Well, I used to enjoy Kesha’s music but after hearing her live vocals, I was turned off. =_= Some people say she had improved, though, but I don’t know since the last time I watch her live performance, it is lip-synced.

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      6. Just a continuation of my question about Lorde’s vocal ability.

        I have seen a vocal range video of hers. It states that her range is G#2-G#5, which i actually doubted since most notes doesn’t sound correct (especially notes below F3)

        Based on this video, what could be her supported range? o.O

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      7. Her C#3’s, I heard. Maybe F3/F#3 is supported? It’s hard to tell for sure for some reason, maybe I’m tired. lol A4/Bb4 dont sound bad, she seems to have a lower voice but her style is so vocally unchallenging and more harmony-based that I cant tell

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      1. C3 ~ G3, none of that was properly supported. A4/Bb4 seem okay. C5 is not okay and above is not okay, the rest has tension and it’s pretty throaty. Apparently she has pretty bad pitch too live, I’ve heard her live and she seems weak to average vocally speaking.

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  2. Here is the video I’m talking about. You don’t have to watch the whole thing unless you want to watch bad dancing, rapping, being weird and me crying. Yes I cried in this video… I also sang and I forgot the lyrics so that was bad but I want you to watch these parts. 5:51-7:20 and 16:16-17:51. You can watch the whole thing if you want.

    Oh btw nice video! The important message is sad but I think you need to know it. So I think I would start it sometime and try to finish in that week

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    1. WAIT PLEASE WATCH 8:02-16:13! Espically 13:07-16:13!!! I you watch before that like at 8:02 it would make more sense.I forgot how important that was because I want to announce that message at 14:42-16:10. People have to realize that! It makes me cry that I live in this generation and how most people and things are! It’s horrible! So how did I do on my singing? I know I failed that G3 LIKE CRAZY!!! So what do you think about the important message? Sorry throughout this video I didn’t talk well, I didn’t use the proper speech because it was so hard for me to talk about that. But I’m here to help and love people and that’s what I do and love. I’m probably going to a video on how to stop depression and eating disorders. I have a subscriber that has the same problem. I really want her to get bettter!

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  3. Thanks for doing these videos. I’m still not sure I understand the difference between head voice and falsetto, though. Is the key difference for a listener more about how “airy” the sound is?

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    1. Airiness is a way to hear it, but also it’s how disconnected it sounds. So if it sounds like the singer’s voice, it’s most likely head voice, if it sounds like a generic voice, it’s falsetto. If you pay attention to male using falsetto, it will just sound like a voice, if you listen to males using head voice, the tone present in their chest voice and mixed voice will still be present in their head voice, like Onew’s head voice, occasionally Jonghyun’s head voice, Ryeowook’s head voice and Daesung’s head voice.

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    1. It wasn’t an even healthy vibrato, it was slightly shaky and unsteady. Your voice can shake with falsetto, since hers wasn’t too breathy, a wobble could be produced. ^ ^

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      1. Seems like many people disagree with some of the classification, especially the exercise at the end. Can you give us the correct answer from your view? πŸ˜›

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      2. Oh I forgot to mention that head voices can produce resonance, while falsetto can’t. Anyway let me see.
        Oh the answer? Let me see if I can get them all right haha 1. Head voice 2. Head voice that may have become falsetto in the last note 3. head voice 4. falsetto? 5. head voice 6. falsetto 7. falsetto 8. head voice (some people might call it falsetto because it’s produced by a man though) 9. falsetto 10. head voice 11. I think falsetto 12. falsetto
        I’m not entirely sure haha because some of them just sound weird and nasal, like Celine.

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      3. Sometimes someone would hit a high note, without any of the vibrato and it sounds like sharp *not as in off tone but as in piercing* but I don’t really know if that’s a head voice because everytime I go to my head voice it’s always had the operatic vibrato in it. Like I don’t know how to do a head voice without the vibration. Is there a way?

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      4. Yes there is! You can 100% control vibrato actually, it’s doable. Well piercing can be just a pushed falsetto too, at times.

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      5. Majority of that was actually mixed voice! ^ ^ 2:15 was more falsetto-like, after that I’d say it was kinda like a light mix or an airy-like head voice.

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    2. Hmmm… since you mentioned vibrato here, let me state my case:

      I really don’t know why but I can sometimes produce high notes with vibrato. I’m sure it’s falsetto, though, because it’s more girlish than my usual singing voice, so I guess it’s an artificial vibrato. I don’t know how I do that, though. Can you explain this?

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      1. I would have to hear it but vibrato can be produced with the tongue (don’t know how but I’ve seen people do it), larynx, diaphragm, jaw and so on. It depends how well steady and controlled it is too.

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      2. It sounds mixed! A bit closed and nasal, sometimes we can get nasal on B’s for some reason, you did here on “little BIT” but no that bad!

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      3. Wait, WHAT?! It’s really mixed voice? O_O Wow, I never thought I can do that :O

        By the way, is it chesty-mixed or balance one? LOL. I’m quite overwhelmed that I can now mixed my voice, even though it is strained. My hard work is starting to show up ❀

        PS: I realized I got my lyrics wrong. It's "I still get jealous", not "I'm little bit jealous" πŸ˜„

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      4. It was kind of balanced to heady, I believe. I’m not entirely sure due to your placement, but everything before the C5 was mixed voice I believe.

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    1. I heard Eb3, E3 and C#3, didn’t even sound like fry, it sounded just like unstable chest voice, it wasn’t bad at all! There was a bit of fry on the C#3 maybe.

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      1. Thanks for that! I’ll work on it. I am mostly classified as a soprano, though I have my doubts.
        Any tips on making the “wonderful” word there more stable/rich? Or I Just have to keep doing it until it’s better?

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      2. Well you’re not lowering your larynx, so for now your vocal cords need more strength, then you can work on placing the sound more forward. It really isn’t bad though.

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  4. Ahmin..can u make a video on how to expand lower notes? Coz many people want to sing higher but i think low notes are also important. How to expand to the 2nd octave..hehe

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    1. Are you a tenor or a baritone? Yes I can totally make a low range video! ^ ^ 2nd octave though? Mhmm I’ll try to see if I can help.

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      1. Im a girl actually. A soprano even. Just want to extend it down to the second octave if i can. My teacher, shes a soprano but she can extend it to until bass range. I’ve heard shes sung an E2 before. She said its not her natural voice but she learned and practiced until it extends to the 2nd octave. Shes very busy though so i dont meet her often 😦

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      1. Yup. I think I’m a light lyric tenor with super light timbre that I sound like a girl as I ascend to the middle extension >_<

        I really wish there's a way to make my voice sound mature without straining or putting too much pressure on my chest register.

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      2. *I posted it on the wrong thread. LOL

        Yup. A lot of times, actually. I’m the one who posted a very nasal cover of β€œJealous”. πŸ™‚

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      3. Really? o.O But my friends are always telling me that my singing voice sounds so young. Also, whenever they speak to me through a telephone, I was often mistaken for a girl. >_<

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  5. Just curious, but when we speak, do we naturally switch registers as we change pitch, or are registers only really relevant when singing? Like if we say/exclaim something like woo hoo!, or wow!, or pretend to be a little girl or something, in a range somewhat higher than our speaking voice, do we naturally mix and change registers?

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  6. can falsetto and head voice not go till a same note? I mean I can hit Mariah’s whistle in ‘oh holy night’ (at last ‘oh night divine~’ part, what note is that btw? πŸ˜› ) with falsetto but I can’t hit it with head voice πŸ˜€

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    1. They can go about the same note. It just depends how you do it, although I think it’s a whistle I don’t know what pitch. Maybe B6?

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      1. Yes, it seemed low to me too, so I was worried. I don’t really speak in that voice either, so I was a little confused. It makes other things make a lot more sense now though, thanks!

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  7. Hi! I have a question. When you go higher in your range, is it possible to use only chest voice, or is it always a mix of chest and head? Is chest voice only for your lower range?

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    1. It has to be mixed at some point, even if just a little bit. Even then, if you’re trying to bring too much chest, it will cause your voice to be strained since there’s a limit to how high you can pull your chest voice naturally.

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  8. Hey I found the weirdest thing I’ve ever heard in vocal terms. What is this? Literally what is this? Does this come from any register? All I know it creeps me out so much and I get nightmares from whatever the hell this singer is doing. I never knew that singing can be really creepy. I hope you don’t get nightmares

    18:52-19:44 If you tell what that is then you are a genius. Ohh that is so creepy!

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    1. She’s creating a really rapid movement in her vocal cords by inhaling air and stretching them in a similar manner that someone would create a whistle register, but instead with more creak in it. It’s I guess some kind of stylistic technique, never heard people doing it in songs lol

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      1. Wow your a genius! I tried doing it but the only thing I can do is when she says “all alone” really creepy. Also that did not sound like when I was getting in my whistle register. I just sounded like a mouse on helium. I never heard it before either. This singer is very different, you thought that Lady Gaga is weird then look at Bjork! I saw her on this vocal blog and I looked her up and wow…

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  9. I always like your analysis blog. I always wondering what category this or that kpop singer *lol

    Aaaah i see a comment above about Taylor Swift, so she’s weak to average? Yeah although i kinda like her music i know she’s not that good with technique and live performance and at time sounds off key/pitch.

    Can i ask you something? How about Katy Perry? In my opinion, she’s average because she’s kinda off keys too and strain in some note and live performance. Am i right?

    How about Lady Gaga? In my opinion, she’s above average to competent or competent. People said she’s underdevelope for falsetto or head voice and likes to use her real voice to reach really high notes that make it sound like sceam and strain. am i right? You can find some of the vocal range analysis in youtube.

    Sorry if it’s not kpop thing. I’m kpop fans but i like taylor swift and lady gaga too. I hope you answer or explain this abit. Thank you ahmin πŸ˜€

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    1. Yeah categories here are our own criteria anyway and we value things differently depending on the judge of course. I feel like Taylor swift is at best average, at least weak yes, I’m not too familiar with her but she sings with a lot of throat and tongue tension, even in studio like her new song Bad Blood, the B4’s in the “Just like that” before the chorus come is, all tongue and tension. Katy Perry average the least, above average at best but I don’t think she’s that good. For Lady Gaga, she’s at least good yknow. She has a very solid lower range down to at least E3, good musicality, good pitch, good control of her voice, good resonance even as high as D5, she’s a mezzo so that’s quite an achievement. I heard her singing with a connected head voice as well.

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      1. WHAT!!! Really, Lady Gaga can be called “Good” singer? Cool!!! I know she’s a good singer that know her voice and has control of it, but i don’t know if she can get that categories *lol Thank you by the way hehehe πŸ˜„

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  10. What does it mean when you don’t have a whistle register? like you can’t even make a sound? Does that mean anything about the larynx?

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    1. It just means that you can’t access it, you may be able to access it if you try hard to find your own but the whistle register isn’t as natural to a human as the modal register, so finding it can be difficult.

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