Gong Minzy’s Vocal Analysis [Newly Updated]

Minzy

Vocal Range

C#3 ~ F5 (2 octaves and 2 notes)

Supported Range

G3 ~ Bb4/B4

Voice Type

Light Lyric Soprano

Strengths/Achievements

  • Strongest vocalist in 2NE1
  • Support on the mid-low area of her mixed register
  • Improvement from debut to now in breathing and placement
  • Nice placement in her supported range, opened notes within a comfortable range
  • Consistently produced healthy vibrato
  • Better than usual lower register, supported down to G3
  • Able to reduce nasality by lifting the soft palate at times

Weaknesses

  • Nasality can be present at times
  • Falsetto is done most of the time with a slightly tight throat
  • Too much breathiness in the falsetto
  • Inconsistent with keeping her throat opened on B4s
  • Notes above B4 usually have a high larynx, a tight throat with a whiny quality
  • Notes below G3 tend to be quiet and breathy, losing support
  • Vocal runs tend to be sloppy with pitch at times, lacking flow at other times

Registers

  • Lower register: Minzy’s lower register is generally supported down to G3 with very good vocal cord connection and forward placement, very well projected and with a stable larynx. At times her pitch and support can get wobbly though, causing the notes to become slightly unstable in her lower range. Notes below G3 down to D3 lose considerably volume, projection and cord connection, become very quiet whispers.
  • Mixed register: Able to produce healthy vibrato and healthy, supported notes within her supported range quite often. Notes in between C4 and Bb4 are generally supported and at times B4’s can be supported. Notes above B4 are generally strained with a high larynx. Resonance has yet to be properly achieved, though her placement isn’t far from it.
  • Upper register: Falsetto is an underdeveloped register, generally unused and with decent pitch during simple lines. At times she will use it and it will show a clear lack of development due to the excessive airiness and raspy quality, keeping it from being projected anywhere in her falsetto range.

Agility

Minzy’s voice is that of a light lyric soprano, meaning that vocal agility should be theoretically easier for her. Due to her lack of control, however, at times her slow runs can be separated and pitch accurate, but lack the correct flow and connection between notes. On the other hand, the faster and wider in range the runs get, the sloppier the production and pitch accuracy becomes, examples being her runs in her cover of “Halo.”

Overall analysis

Minzy’s voice is a very mature voice for her age. It possesses a light quality of a soprano, yet retains a fuller tone as she’s learned to correctly place and support it overtime. It stays generally seated in a comfortable lower range for a female, where her repertoire doesn’t generally needs her to go much outside of her supported comfortable range. She is the lead vocalist of 2NE1, however contrary to common belief, she is actually the strongest vocalist in the group, with the widest supported range and best breath control amongst the members.

Her lower register used to be very breathy and lacked any control in terms of pitch and stability. She would generally lower her larynx around A3 and anything lower would have a swallowed, unprojected sound. Throughout time, however, Minzy has learned to correctly support and place her voice, without letting her larynx move and keeping her sound forward in her mask and chest to stabilize lower notes. When in the past she would struggle to hit A3’s, now she’s able to descend to G3 effortlessly with a clear and comfortable sound. An example would be her recent acapella performance of “Right Here Waiting” where she descends to a G3 without any loss in tone production nor volume. However so, her range below G3 still remains unstable and overly breathy. Notes below G3, such as her F3’s in “Halo”, her D3 and Eb3 in “If I Ain’t Got You” and her C#3 in “거위의 꿈“, lose clear tone and volume, becoming very breathy and quiet in sound.

Minzy’s mixed register also has shown improvement from debut, where she would usually get tense and tight, has now become more of a comfortable range for her. In the past notes around A4 and Bb4 would show challenging to her due to her larynx raising and incorrect intake of breath, however now her supported range has expanded higher and now she’s able to stay comfortable in that range, with better placement and a fuller, more projected sound. Difference shows in covers such as her cover of “Don’t You Remember” where most Bb4’s would sound quite tight, whereas now she’s able to project and support notes as high as B4. Nonetheless notes above B4 still prove challenging to her, with her larynx raising and a nasal whiny quality overtaking the upper range. Usually notes like the C5’s in the chorus of “그리워해요” her throat gets slightly tight and she loses fullness in tone, and as she ascends up to Eb5 in other songs, her highest mixed note, tone is lost and her sound is compromised.

Her falsetto register is Minzy’s most underdeveloped register. Whereas her lower register is nicely developed for her vocal level and her mixed register is decently supported, her falsetto generally becomes a very airy sound with many notes lacking projection and cord connection. Notes like her F5 from “Halo” and even D5’s and C5’s in “그리워해요” lack any sort of true resonance and clarity in tone production.

Minzy is a vocalist who’s considerably underrated in her own group and fandom. Although not being an exceptional vocalist, she’s much better than she’s credited for but generally outshined by 2NE1’s main vocalist, Park Bom, who happens to be the groups weakest vocalist. Minzy has shown an ability to correctly support her voice through proper breathing technique and has been able to produce a healthy stable vibrato in her supported range. She’s also shown improvement from debut and has been able to consistently get better, even if slowly, year by year. Whereas she used to be very nasal, Minzy has now reduced her nasality and is able to produce a fuller, truer tone that showcases the best qualities of her voice. Although being able to support her voice better through the years, Minzy still shows a lack of control in keeping her voice completely in key and keeping her pitch stable. In most performances she’ll be singing simple melodies and be in key, and have occasional sharp notes come out or sloppy runs without proper connection nor accuracy between notes.

Musically Minzy shows potential in being able to correctly sing ballads, adding the needed amount of dynamics and embellishments in her musical delivery. Minzy seems like a vocalist who works in her craft, although musically she does not need to have great vocal ability for the music she sings, she still shows interest and improvement and will hopefully keep improvement further into the future.

Musicianship

Minzy’s vocal ability does not allow her to really showcase many melodic or rhythmic changes in her singing. When attempted, she has the tendency to lose pitch and not execute runs correctly. Due to her knowledge of herself, however, she does not tend to attempt doing things she’s not capable of doing and will generally sing songs as they’re given to her. At times however, she’s able to correctly execute melodic changes, such as changing runs that are too low for her in “If I Ain’t Got You.”

Rating

Average to Above Average Vocalist

Vocal Range Video(s)

 

Video by: 2NE1Bang

Best Vocal Performance(s)

Re-Analyzed by Ahmin (Kitsunemale)
(Originally analyzed by Chung)

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168 thoughts on “Gong Minzy’s Vocal Analysis [Newly Updated]

      1. I don’t have thoughts on her improvement because I don’t follow CL or 2NE1 closely enough to be able to tell you but I can hear still issues with throatiness and nasality, she sings pretty much through her nose. Like at 1:55 she’s singing Bb4’s which for a Soprano or Mezzo Soprano shouldn’t be much of an issue. I’m unsure of her voice type but her overall technique isn’t very well developed.

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      1. Oi… novamente. Qual o ranking vocal dos artistas que estão no 2.5 – Average to Above Average vocalist
        Obrigado.

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  1. I remember when I first heard a song by 21 and I thought Minzy was the best out of the 4. When I heard Bom was number 1, I thought something was wrong with my ears. Glad to know it wasn’t me.^^

    Thank you for the thoughtful and objective analysis. I really like how you support the analyses with performances and that you also give credit where it’s due and where they can improve. You guys are doing an awesome job! 😀

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    1. Thank you! You’re awesome, I try to be fair and be detailed! Thank you for the appreciation! Yeah no ppl have something wrong with their ears!

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      1. I don’t think people have something wrong with their ears, I think it’s because Park Bom’s unique tone/vocal color that get people feeling all sorts of ways lol. Honestly on audio Park Bom’s voice is nice to listen too, her lives ofcourse are hard to listen too cause of her bad technique but still she has a really nice tone.

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  2. Was the head notes in 그리워해요 in head voice or falsetto? Because it sounded somehow connected to her mix…

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    1. I feel like CLs were better, Minzys weren’t bad but they lost volume and tone, tho they weren’t breathy which is good

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      1. yeah I had the impression that CL’s sounded better in a way but on other hand it kinda sounded more nasal to me? Or maybe it’s just how her voice is, idk… But anyway I think that’s a one time thing, I think Minzy’s lower register is much more consistent than CL’s, sometimes I feel like Minzy’s voice shines from like A#3-C#4, like when she ends her part of the chorus in If I Were You and she says “ge” I think it’s around a C4 and it sounds so good, her vibrato sounds really good (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc7yS0406YY at 3:11)

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      2. Yeah no most of the time she sounds good in that area. It’s just vocally a very narrow and low range for her voice type, where she should be able to do much more vocally. It is a good area of her range though and yeah no doubt, CL is a very nasal vocalist, so it is more basal without a doubt.

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      3. it really is bizarre how she has a more developed lower register and not upper register with her a being a Light Lyric Soprano and all but I have faith the she will expand the upper part of her range a little more, she’s been slowly but steadily expanding it and even though she still doesn’t resonate on C5s, when I hear them I feel like it’s just out her reach you know, just a little more and she will be able to get it.

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      4. It’s not that bizarre considering how 2NE1 is asked to sing n how their songs are usually low. Oh I agree, I mean she’s yet to be fully resonant but she’s supporting well.

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    2. hi I have another question: I read somewhere that Tiffany tends to have a tense vibrato, does that mean that even though Minzy’s not as good of a vocalist as Tiffany, she has a better vibrato? and also is CL vibrato good?

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      1. if only YG had decent vocal coaches, I really think she could go far as a vocalist, she seems to learn things easily, she just needs someone to guide her….damn you YG. thank you for your answering

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  3. Hi!
    I came across this blog a couple weeks ago and I’ve kinda been obsessed with it (even with my lack of knowledge of singing skills). Sorry this is an off topic and silly question but can you tell me the difference between a main vocalist and a lead vocalist? I know i kind of sound ignorant, but sometimes I see in idol groups that there is both a main and a lead but the lead vocalist singing the high notes (T-ara and sorta Girls’ Day for example)? Thank you!
    -Nicole

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    1. No problem and there’s no such thing as stupid questions lol this question isn’t related to vocal technique really, it’s a Kpop thing lol basically the main is arguably the best and the who sings the most and the most challenging parts, the lead is the one who supports the main and takes Adlibs and other challenging parts. Now sometimes they give Eunjung higher notes than Soyeon even tho Soyeon is the better vocalist, why? Well maybe she’s just better at straining them, positions often time are ignored due to popularity of individual members~ soooo

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  4. Hello~ this has been bugging me for a while so I’ll ask it here. Does anyone know what note Minzy hit in the final chorus of If I Were You (the ‘naui maeum’/harmonized with Bom part)? My phone’s being all buggy so I can’t post a link here sorry >.<

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    1. I went to check and I wasn’t sure it was her cuz she sounded like Bom because she was straining the note like her lol it was Eb5 I believe

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  5. I appreciate you taking the time to do this. I don’t know much about vocals, but I’ve always wanted to know her strengths and the weaknesses which she can improve on, and I like how you do it fairly.

    I have a question though, is Minzy’s vocal range considered a good vocal range? I’m not too sure about what’s considered a good or a not good vocal range. Also, what advantages do people with wide vocal ranges have in terms of presenting themselves in songs? Or vice versa, what are the disadvantages for people with limited vocal range?

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    1. Well we all as humans in average have like a 3 octave vocal range, now the fact that Minzy hasn’t shown 3 octaves doesn’t mean she’s not capable of it, she just hasn’t had the chance or vocal confidence to develop her full range and show it fully. Now the advantage is that someone with a wider range probably has the ability to control more of their range and is able to showcase a wider range because they can support and use it better, so the reason someone would show less range is because they have not developed it completely nor have they used their voice’s full potential yet so they might strain too early in their range, like Minzy, where she stops supporting around B4, Ailee can keep supporting up until like F#5/G5, showing more skill and being able to vocally do more with her voice. Do u see what I mean? Like I’m pretty sure Minzy could belt G5 and head voice D6, she just hasn’t developed her voice well enough to do those things yet

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      1. Ah I get what you mean. How does one train themself to get a wider vocal range though, or in a sense, develop their voice to the bigger potential that they have? In one 2NE1 interview, Minzy said Mariah Carey & Whitney Houston’s songs enabled her to have a wider range from before – is what she said here actually an actual voice training element, by listening to others’ songs?

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      2. Listening to other people isn’t exactly a way to widen vocal range, but it can help you widen your musical knowledge. Once you try singing those songs, you try stretching your muscles in your vocal cords to hit the higher and lower notes these singers are capable of. There are many many vocal exercises that help you connect your vocal cords and stretch throughout every register you have in order to fully expand your vocal range. I’m sure Minzy can mix higher than Eb5 and falsetto higher than F5, she just hasn’t shown us yet but it also takes time to learn to do it right without hurting yourself and controlling your newer notes

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  6. I thought Minzy is an alto…I don’t know alot about singing but to me she sounds like an alto. My friends also thought she’s an alto

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    1. Alto is not a voice type, it’s a choir part. The voice type is called contralto, that voice type carries a lot of weight and contraltos usually sound like men basically, like Cher, Annie Lennox, Ana Carolina, they have androgynous tones. Even someone like Adele or Alicia Keys are classified as mezzos, not contraltos. Minzys voice is actually really light and it doesn’t really sit that low in terms of range and placement. According to other people, she’s a soprano. Personally I’m sure she’s not a contralto but that’s all I can say for sure.

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      1. Hehehehehe My mistake. I meant to say contralto cuz I’m used to hearing people say alto online or they’re an ‘alto’. I thought there are light lyric contraltos…I read that there are coloratura contraltos, light lyric altos, and two more.

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  7. Should YG’s vocal coaches be changed? I feel like 2NE1’s vocals could get better, esp. Bom’s and Minzy’s they’re my favorite vocalists.

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    1. Maybe? I’m not sure if that’s the exact reason but it could definitely help if they’re the problem, which we can assume it is.

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    1. Yes very there’s completely no relation between singing and rapping in terms of technique. I mean it’s just a completely different thing, many good rappers are really bad at singing and good singers are not able to rap at all.

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  8. I might be annoying you, but I will wonder one more thing lol
    CL has musicianship? I know she’s more a performer than a vocalist (even a rapper).
    But in 2NE1 lives she’s the only who change her.. hm I don’t know what word to use lmao
    Rhythm or phrasing, you should know the correct word.
    For example, that acoustic version of Ugly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-RWhEchXQc
    and one more thing (I swear I will stop)
    Is this a melisma? http://instagram.com/p/ruVEX9kYCm/?modal=true
    I read in a 2NE1 fanpage that this is a melisma, but I don’t trust so much in Blackjacks when they’re talking about vocals.

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    1. I didn’t notice any changes tho she sang it nicely tbh I felt like she was just doing it right but it’s not very different from studio and a melisma is a vocal run which is a series of notes sung in one breath over the sound of one vowel… Which is not what CL does in that video at all so idk what they’re talking bout? Lol thank u for the comment and for trusting us here! Lol

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      1. Thanks.
        I trust on you because you’re less biased as possible lol
        Also, you said that she sang it nicely, so she improved a bit?

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      1. On the front page, I linked the “About Us” page and the “Future Projects” page, u can use the future projects one for that! ^ ^

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      2. oh you might want to e-mail me directly or on the about us page there are ways for you to contact each author individually and so you can contact me through twitter, my e-mail on my website or youtube… ^ ^

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  9. just a question, could minzy be classified as a mezzo since she seems to have a lower tessitura than what a soprano would have? this is probably a bad comparison but lady gaga and beyonce are classified as mezzos and their voices have the about same weight as minzy (i think)

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    1. Nah, I mean I think minzy could grow to be of a different voice type maybe eventually, but at this point her voice just has a darker color but the weight of her voice is still lighter than Beyonce’s and Lady Gaga’s.. just think of Adele, Meghan Trainor and Lee Hi, these girls are mezzos and they sound like women early in their age, Lee Hi isn’t even 20.. Minzy just sounds a bit more womanly than others but still very light. I also doubted myself for a second but you can hear there’s a soprano quality to her voice.

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  10. I’m curious, in 2ne1 who is better, Dara or CL? idk recently Dara seems more stable than CL, but Dara’s range is way smaller than CL’s. I’m starting my vocal lessons now, so I don’t really now who is the best. (even if I know that 2ne1 is not a group with good vocalists, but Minzy and Dara improved, or I think they did)

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      1. She still has that flat-sounding tone production and nasality.. like her voice just sounds so flat and shallow… like she’s half speaking

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  11. I love 2ne1, I’m even a blackjack lol. I respect 2ne1 as vocalists, rappers and dancers and I know I’m gonna a lot of hate for this but… they really should improve. Singing is not for everyone indeed it’s pretty hard. I believe that if you have a job or a carrer that you do all the time you have to be good. I’m not saying they should not be a good vocalist or even competent. Actually, YG should train them better. I love Minzy’s voice but she can be much better with training. Bom voice sometimes scares me, I’m sorry but I love her but it’s so choppy and just sounds unhealthy. Usually a kpop groups best vocalist would be about above average but nobodys that in YG. I understand that YG entertainment is more of rapping and dancing but YG is a judge for many singers when his own medicore at best. I will forever be a blackjack but please improve your vocals sometimes they can scare me. I don’t want you to have damaged voice, Bom don’t turn like Christina Aguilera.

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    1. Nobody YET analyzed in Above Average from YG. I agree with you, tbqh Above Average is good enough to be a main vocalist and for you to be respected for your singing, the least you should be is Above Average IMPROVING to become a good vocalist. I mean Ailee, Junsu, Jonghyun, Kyuhyun, Hyorin.. all these vocalists have that in common. They’re not popular just for being popular, they’re respected for their singing. You’re a beautifully minded blackjack and I love you ❤ Thank you for gracing us with your comment, I really appreciate it. Yang Shi Hyuk needs to wake up.

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      1. Your welcome, I just like to share my opinons. I respect singers a lot but even though I’m a blackjack I don’t really listen to them any more. I kind of feel bad, I still love them but I can’t stop listening to Sohyang or Mariah. I also listen to Ailee, Hyorin and Kyunhyun a loit. Every second I listen to their songs, I’m addicted. But thanks, your really nice. Btw I wanted to say this for long but it’s really random. I look at your youtube channel and many people don’t like your singer. I think your a beautiful singer and I love your style. Those people are jelous, I wish my lower register could be like that. Oh and merry christmas, happy hanakah or kwansa (idk how to spell that) or whatever holiday you celebrate.

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      2. Wow do not EVEN worry about the grammar and the spelling, this is a very sweet and dear christmas gift honestly haha!! lol Thank you ever so much, yeah many people don’t like my singing but it’s more because they don’t like what I say about their favorite idols….rather than hating my singing without actually even knowing me because people who don’t know me aren’t already moved by hatred and defensiveness lol You’re just so sweet though and you’re sure a dedicated fan and there’s no shame in loving a group but not listening to them as much anymore. It happens ^ ^

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  12. Sorry I spelt many things wrong and had a lot of errors, I have to fix them.
    I said a loit, I meant a lot
    And I meant a lot of people don’t like your singing

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  13. Thanks again. Btw, I’ve been trying to figure out the top 10 female vocalists in kpop. Can you help me out? This is what I have so far…
    1-Ailee 2-Jea / Yeonji 3-Hyorin 4-Haeri 5-Eunji 6- Luna 7-Taeyeon? Idk what I’m saying. The main singer from bestie is pretty good too. I think that Jea and Yeonji are a slight better than Hyorin because they have better falsetto and head voice. Hyorin beats them in lower register though, but Jea is not that bad at lower register while Yeonji is not good. Yeonji has no nasal and hardly strains. When Jea never strains (I have never heard her strain) but can be just a tiny bit nasally. Hyorin never gets nasally but she does strain but she’s getting better. Who’s better and can you fill 8,9,10? Also, did I get this right.

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    1. I’m not sure myself either but I have an idea, I’m sure Jea should not be that high since she regressed. Younha should be in the top 10, Taeyeon should not. I feel like Shannon should be Top 10, Lina from The Grace and U.Ji from Bestie. I’m NOT sure of the positions though. You’re getting this kinda right though, I just don’t know the positions yet, other contenders for top 10 are more competent vocalists such as Ben and others.

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      1. Oh sorry I forgot many people. It’s just so many people to think of. For some reason I was only thinking about those people. I don’t know why I put Taeyeon in the top 10 anyway I heard your updating SNSD’s vocal analysis. I found some recent videos of singing. Oh wait, I’m sorry I can’t really send videos. On YouTube look up Taeyeon devil’s cry and Hidden Singer 3. For Tiffany look up Right There cover and green light with John Legend and Chen. Yhere is nothing really recent for Seohyun but there’s a video called Seohyun sings broadway lines. It seems like her falsetto improved. In that video she sounded better than Tiffany in my opinion. For Sunny look up your my lucky star. Also, she is singing a lot of Jessica’s parts these days. So sorry I couldn’t send u the videos. Hope you can find them!

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      2. Haha Taeyeon used to be considered top 10 before other people were considered and some other debuts happened, also before I started creating my own idea of the vocal criteria haha it’s a personal criteria but it’s sort of accurate at least lol Oh I’ve seen both of those too, and woo I have seen Right There… I’ve seen green light too haha weird right? I didn’t even mean to, Tiffany really shouldn’t be yelling Ariana Grande songs… Ariana wants to be Mariah, Tiffany wants to be Ariana… I haven’t seen the broadway lines but I’m looking forward to Seohyun’s newest musical lol Haha no need to send them to me, I’m a SONE, it’ll be my pleasure to look, can’t say it will be my pleasure to listen though. LOL sadly.

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  14. I’m a SONE too! Btw what is your ranking for snsd as a whole? Also, don’t you think Tiffany kind of sounds like Ariana but her belting is just not good above a C5 and has worse falsetto. There tone is similar in my ears. Anyways, back to snsd ranking thing…
    This is my personal ranking:
    1-Taeyeon, 2-Jessica 3-Seohyun 4-Tiffany 5-Sunny 6-Sooyoung 7- Yuri 8-Hyoyeon 9-Yoona
    I think that Seohyun is better than Tiffany because she improved in falsetto and I don’t hear as much nasal as she did before. Idk about Hyoyeon and Yoona but I came to a conclusion…. Hyoyeon is improving these days, her low notes are not bad. I mean that note in goodbye was better than I thought. Yoona was better during their debut in 2007 but got weaker. What do you think about my ranking or whats your ranking? Sorry about the ranking stuff..

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    1. If by like Ariana, you mean nasal, then yes. LOL Ariana and Tiffany, I don’t know… I don’t even find Ariana and Mariah similar in tone, just their song style sometimes. LOL
      Oh no Seohyun is quite considerably better than Tiffany. Also yeah I pretty much agree with your thing for the vocalists, I kind of don’t care for the rest, maybe Yuri above Sooyoung and that’s about it because I don’t really know. I think it’s accurate haha lol It’s okay I’ve been working on a female idol vocalist ranking chart since yesterday too so its okay

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      1. I know right. I don’t think Ariana’s tone is like Mariah’s at all. When everybody started saying that her voice is like Mariah’s I was like what. People thought because she was doing “whistle notes”(hers are really high falsetto) that she sounded like Mariah. I just ask because so many people think Tiffany’s better than Seohyun and Jessica even Taeyeon! Also, on immortal songs 2 (the michael bolton one), Ji Ahn and Moon Myungjin sang and I really like them. What do you think they will rank? Can you do analysis of them in the future if you have a chance?

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      2. It LITERALLY is because of the whistle register LOL literally. Sometimes she uses a whistle though, some others a falsetto… And yeah I don’t get how people think Tiffany is better… she literally shouts! Her voice is beautiful though. I don’t know them, I only listened to Ji Ahn and he was kinda throaty on the highest notes (I noticed his plastic surgery lol I was like oh wow nosejob) Haha I may, but I gotta work on other people first.

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  15. Yes work on other people. Who do you thinks going next? I think an vocal analysis on someone underrated like U.Ji would be interesting. But you can do whatever you want. Oh you know what would be really cool? If you did vocal analysis on the people who do vocal analysis. Like you, that would be so cool!

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    1. Haha actually that’d be interesting, taken the other analysts (minus one) called me a tenor when Im a baritone so I have thought of analyzing myself but I don’t know, I wanna improve more haha lol Next actually Imma finish Taemin’s vocal range, then work on Yoseob’s vocal range, then his analysis, then Seohyun’s vocal range, then Seohyun, Tiffany, Taeyeon and Sunny redone. U.Ji will come eventually, I have other video plans … U.Ji is kinda far into the future, after many other people. Yknow vocal analyses are much faster to do than you’d think, what slows me down is making the vocal range videos lol And so you’re a coloratura soprano? Also I noticed that you had requested Narsha and Jea, you know about your own voice and singing so..what do you think of Jea and Narsha? I decided to actually listen to Jea carefully and to me she is far worse than I had been lead to believe so Im curious as to what you think of her.

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      1. Ah yeah, I mostly sing oprea lol. I can go up very very high in head voice and thats how I normally sing. So I guess I am, I mean when I hear other colortura sopranos they sound very similar to me. The lower register just makes it hard to say if I really am because my low notes are getting better but still my head voice is WAY better.

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      2. Oh sorry I forgot got to say the thing about Narsha and Jea. Well I haven’t heard them in a long time. I have heard kill bill and I have to agree she has worsened. I feel like Jea might be full soprano. I do not feel that she’s light because there is a fullness and darkness in her voice but she has like 1 low note. But where she sings comfortably is around the 5th octave so I still think she is full. I think Jea is a lot like Yeonji in terms of vocal weight and belting. Jea is probably compentent. She used to be good. Narsha is a light lyric soprano but now I feel like she’s still better than Gain but probably on the same level if not above average. I just remember when they were better but now that I just listened to them I see your point.There getting much older so it’s probably because of age.

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      3. I honestly they were never good to begin with.. And yeah shes definitely a full lyric soprano and her low notes arent too stellar nor is her falsetto and she gets so whiny lol i feel like theres no big difference between jea and narsha. Haha

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  16. Oh, I guess I was wrong. Yeah, I mean everybody said that she was really good so I just believed them. What’s with that thing that so many kpop vocalists are doing, after they belt they always do huh. Like a whiny breathy sound after they belt. Jea does it, it’s weird now everybody is doing it. I only hear Koreans do it though…

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      1. I’m sorry but I know you probably live in a different time zone than me because I did not send that out at 9:46. So this is not programed at different time zones? Oh and I know this is really random but you know in Korea they have best singer in Korea or kpop? Well, they always pick Taeyeon and IU as winners. When Hyorin is like 5th place and she is the only good vocalist there. Like they just had one and the people who sang were Taeyeon, Eunji, Bom, Hyorin, (sorry I forgot the others names but it was the leader of Kara, main vocalist of 4minute and main vocalist of Secret). Taeyeon got 1st place when Eunji got 2nd and Park bom got 3rd. I don’t know what the other places were but I seem to notice that Korea loves singers like Taeyeon and IU that have very light girly voices. Is it because Korea has different tastes and don’t like Hyorin’s husky voice as much? What do you think?

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      2. They actually do like Hyorins voice a lot, they love husky like hyorin and junsu so its more of a popularity thing and mhmm idk ive seen hyorin topping rankings before and yeah im usually west coast time zone and rn im in europe lol

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  17. Hello!! I’m an amateur at singing but i’d like to ask how to use a head voice instead of falsetto? Because when i try to sing higher notes (my range is very small so maybe above A4?) I automatically kind of transition into a very airy falsetto! And it doesnt sound very good. Could you help me? Thanks alot!! ^^

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    1. I will try to give you some advice. Remember to breathe in properly, support with your diaphragm, now try to connect your vocal cords by either adding a bit of a vocal fry before u start singing or by using a ZZZZZ sound beforehand or a Guck sound, anything that forces ur vocal cords to kinda come together. Also try to imitate an owl, for some reason that works. LOL Try to do these when ascending into your break and see if you’re able to take away some of the airiness.

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    1. Soyeon is average from what Ive heard, i think minzy might be better than her overall. Definitely better lower range and better placement.

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    1. I’m not sure how to answer the question “How is his vocal range” but I’ll try to give you an answer. He sounds like a really high tenor or a countertenor, he sounds like a woman basically. He can mix G5, he is just straining a lot, he uses a very throaty, shaking of the head kind of based vibrato, which is a very rocky thing to do.. he also strains quite a bit in the high notes and uses a lot of his throat, which is only half stylistic, because although his Bb4’s weren’t bad, anything in the fifth octave kind of was full of tension and didn’t project quite as much. I mean, the vocalist of Norazo can hit resonant G5’s and he’s a rock vocalist, so the styling can be a bit of an excuse but not always.

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  18. i just found your blog and your article is really good. you didn’t judge them subjectively and i love you so much
    i have a question because a always confused when i read your article. what it’s mean about c5 or f#3. i know about the c or f or g or another key. but why there’s a number behind it? i’m sorry because i ask you this. maybe you think i’m stupid right? lol
    and another question, who has the widest vocal range in kpop? and between iu, luna, and eunji who’s better? thank you 🙂

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    1. Hi there, thank you so much haha ^ ^ You’re not stupid at all! You should watch the vocal range videos, but basically the number means the octave. So I’ll give you a picture of a piano.

      This is basically what it means. Every note is present an octave above itself, so it’s the same note, it’s just higher or lower depending on the octave it’s located. Widest vocal range? Amongst idols so far, Wendy of Red Velvet is the only one with a 4 octave vocal range. Also Eunji would be the best and Luna would be a close second behind her and IU is considerably less skilled than both.

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      1. oh thank you for your reply ^^
        Actually i took organ lesson, and i know about the octave but i just didn’t know why they put the number behind the key lololololol

        Oh really? Then wendy is better than taeyeon? she’ll a great singer right?
        Oh why? i had read article about her high notes. And i like some of her songs. it’s really sweet. but yeah i dunno about the technique thingy 😄 😄
        I know righttttt. Eunji is good. But There are some people who don’t want to admit it. They said eunji is like that, eunji is like this lolololol
        Anyway thank you ❤

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      2. No no, just because Wendy has the widest vocal range, it doesn’t mean she is the best vocalist. Wendy may or may not be better than Taeyeon, in some aspects Taeyeon still is better, maybe overall Wendy is slightly better. Eunji is underrated, sadly. No problem, it’s my pleasure to answer. ^ ^

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      3. Well i think i made some typos in my recent comments :v
        ah i see. Chorong can catch higher notes than eunji (or maybe i should named it as dolphin scream lol) but she honestly said, she cant sing the notes well lol 😄 😄
        ah yes 😦 eunji is still underrated.
        And the last, who’s better between taeyeon and luna? And and and can you make vocal analysis of aoa’s choa and hello venus’s yoo ara?

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      4. Yoo Ara left the group, which makes me question making an analysis for her. ChoA is part of our future projects already, as for Taeyeon and Luna, Luna is quite a bit better than Taeyeon.

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      5. ah yes. she already did
        okay, i’ll wait for choa part ❤
        oh really? but a lot of people said taeyeon is better. maybe it's because of she was debuted earlier than luna?

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      6. Well yeah but a lot of people also think Solji is better than Hyorin and Ailee and some people think Park Bom is the best vocalist ever, people like to think things, it’s like a thing.. LOL

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      7. lol yes
        i wonder why yg chose bom as the main vocal. i prefer minzy’s voice than bom. oh maybe yg chose her because she has wider vocal range?

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  19. Speaking of Piano what are ur thoughts about this coming from a person taking piano lesson for 10yrs, base on him/her “TechniQue is Subjective”.

    “Technique and skill is also subjective. How is that objective in any way. Even if you don’t strain your voice, doesn’t mean that your technique is good. JYP himself said that he likes Taeyeon’s technique because it seems like she’s talking while singing. Do I like that technique? NO!! I think it’s boring!  So what?

    Im not even that big a fan of Bom. I even prefer Minzy’s voice over hers.. I’m much more of a Sunye fan, and even she has flaws. So you can’t say that I’m being biased or anything. And as a person who took piano lessons from 5 different teachers, I can tell you that technique is subjective!! Some teachers liked my technique, and other teachers told me I needed to change those same tendencies. My teachers often criticized the technique of great pianists, saying that either it didn’t do justice to the song because it wouldn’t put enough emphasis on a certain note, or that that specific technique wouldn’t work on me because my fingers are shorter. Hence, technique depends largely on how the person was taught, but also on the person themselves, depending on vocal range, ability, limitations  etc… Do you think that a person with a soprano will have the same technique as someone with a bass? Also you say Bom’s technique is bad because her voice strains! I can find a handful of videos where Taeyeon’s voice has more cracks that my ass. When I said her technique was good, I was being generous. I went to music school…”

    ~i’m the type of person that can be easily brainwash but i REALLY REALLY cant see myself agreeing to his/her opinion this person is kinda stubborn .. Point is, i wanna ask does a piano teacher/piano student knows about vocal techniQues?

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    1. That person sounds rude, but I don’t disagree with them. Technique is objective but it’s also subjective. It’s subjective to the listener, it ALWAYS is. It really depends how well trained the ear of the listener is, so my opinion is only subjective because if you compare my opinion to that of a commoner, we will have different opinions. I may be more “correct” in scientific terms, but to their ears they’re right too. In that sense, though, everything in life is subjective and so if someone wants to go as far as to say facts like straining are subjective, then they gotta be ready to take on the argument to a very psychologically deep level of questioning life as a whole.

      Nope, an instrument player does NOT know about vocal technique if they were not taught it. Instrument players know music, so they got pitch, timing, rhythm, keys and stuff down, they don’t know enough about the specifics of other instruments to judge anybody’s technique. I know for one, my piano skill is not advanced enough for me to criticize any professional pianists. So this person says Taeyeon’s technique is boring? See, that’s already a contradiction. “Boring” describes a feeling, a subjective feeling of whether one likes a singer or not. Thinking Taeyeon’s technique is “boring” just means they don’t really like Taeyeon’s voice/singing, it doesn’t mean she’s good or bad at all. Taeyeon strains too yes, Taeyeon as a soprano like Bom, though, strains less than her and controls her voice better. So yes technique is subjective if you’re talking about the listener’s knowledge, but technique IS objective if you have studied it and you’re not stubborn to admit you’re wrong. Also JYP’s opinion on singing can be disregarded for a good amount of the time, he’s also a very subjective listener.

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      1. from what I saw she doesnt have an extensive support as BoA Jessica Yeeun but inside her support she produces better jieun and soyu, right?? I think she looks better on average to above average also, since she only not supports C5 like the others, difference of only 1 semitone [i think], would be unfair to leave she down for so little :)))

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      2. It’s not just that, I mean her lower range support is about as good as YeEun, Jessica and her mix is about as consistently opened as YeEun’s and Jessica’s, just a bit more resonant. She has less nasality than BoA, her mix is more even than BoA’s, but her head voice nor pitch are as good, they kind of cancel each other out, they have very small differences between one another.

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  20. Whooo she’s an above average vocalist now! I have hopes for 2ne1. I’ll join 2ne1 and improve! I can’t believe she’s the best singer in 2ne1 when she’s the best dancer. Bom’s supposed to be the best but obviously Minzy is the best singer! Minzy’s so talented I learned popping(it’s a type of dance) from her and I’m very good at it. I am actually doing a dance competition and I’ll do popping. I love Minzy so much.

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  21. Hi! I like your reviews. They seem so honest and non biased unlike some other reviewers. It’s sad to see that YG’s vocalists being weak – average. I think they need to change their vocal coach? I mean Park Bom used to be a stable singer back then. Now, when she sings old songs, she can’t hit some notes perfectly and easily out of breath.

    *Can you do CL’s or Lee Hi or both reviews? I would be very pleased if you do 😀 *

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    1. Thank you so much for reading the analyses and understanding them without getting mad! ^ ^ They surely do need to change their vocal coach… Also I’m sorry I don’t believe I’ll do CL, she’s a rapper and not a vocalist per se and I can’t judge rap. Lee Hi has already been analyzed like 2 weeks ago.. lol ^ ^

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      1. oh sorry, I wasn’t so caught up with your blog that I didn’t realize you already made one for Lee Hi xD . Well i asked for CL because I’m a Blackjack and well she’s also a Lead Singer (same as Minzy) but apparently she raps more. Well, can you do Winner’s Seungyoon or AKMU’s Soohyun then? 😀

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      2. Yes those are already part of our future projects ^ ^ I think soohyun needs a few years to improve and grow though..

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  22. Question. How would you rank Taeyeon, Seohyun, Jessica, Minzy, Sunny, Tiffany, and Park Bom. I kind of already anticipate Taeyeon being first but I’m curious as to where you’d put Minzy and Bom. Especially after I saw you say that Minzy is only a slightly better vocalist than Sunny but the best vocalist in 2ne1 (at least I think that was you).

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    1. Well as you do know there are analyses on all of these people except for Sunny and Taeyeon, so only they would be surprising results for you. Taeyeon > Seohyun/Jessica > Minzy > Tiffany/> Sunny > Bom.

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  23. Just a question. What makes Minzy better than Soyou of Sistar? I have checked the latter’s analysis and she sounds like she’s better than Minzy (Say, consistency with C5 and falsetto register). o.O

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    1. How is Soyou’s falsetto better than Minzy’s? Minzy has much better tone production. They have similar supported ranges, but Minzy’s overall support is stronger and her placement is considerably better.

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      1. Wait? So, Soyou’s falsetto is better? It is said in her analysis that she has a relaxed and easily accessed falsetto. Meanwhile, Minzy’s falsetto is excessively airy and husky.

        Anyway, I have watched some performance of Soyou. I agree. Compared to Minzy, Soyou sounds less stable, even though she’s not dancing, compared to Minzy who can also produce good vibrato even if she’s dancing (say, her chorus in Come Back Home)

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      2. No it isn’t better, what I was saying is that since when is Soyou’s falsetto better because I don’t remember ever saying it was. Soyou’s falsetto might be easily accessed, but it’s super airy and disconnected, Minzy’s isn’t that husky, it’s less airy too.

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  24. I wonder if there’s an article about Hyoyeon, Yoona, Bom, and Dara. Who will lead among them?! haha, seriously i don’t meant to hate but just wondering, i listen to 2NE1 and SNSD tho -___-v

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    1. I mean despite all Bom’s flaws, she has had better moments than Dara’s lack of complete support, flaw weak tone. Same for Yoona, both can connect legato better, but their tone production, pitch and so on are very weak. Hyoyeon has a few things Bom doesn’t but again they’re all weak, it’s not a fun group of girls to watch vocally.

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  25. Can you rank Minzy, Tiffany, and Jessica in terms of their lower registers ? They’re the best lower registers of their own groups right ??? 🙂 Thanks in advance !!~~

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      1. Hahahha it’ll make a war between SMstan and YGstan i think. But it would be nice to see her there (more in SNSD) lol

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    1. I don’t want her to be in SNSD but like in a new girl group, like F(x), since Krystal is rumored to leave. Plus, no one cares about the wars. I’m both SMstan and YGstan.

      If Minzy did go to SME her vocals might be way better.

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  26. Now that Minzy has left the YG dungeons and is with another company, if she does a solo thing (which I hope she does actually and unless she knows she’ll get more attention I don’t think she’ll join another group) will you re-analyze her? After she puts out more stuff of course, so like when she finally debuts again and has done more lives? I mean only if she’s changed of course but I hope she improves with being out of YG and hopefully getting more attention.

    And since 2NE1 is continuing as 3, do you think CL will sing more or maybe Dara will and she’ll improve? Either way I hope whoever sings more improves, I really want it to be Dara, though, since she works so hard anyway and I’d like for her to be a better vocalist so CL can continue to do her rapping thing.

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    1. Honestly my only answer to you is my usual answer, I really don’t know. I can’t predict the future, considering the way they’ve been singing for years I’d be surprised if CL improved or if Dara improved at all. We will always update and add new information for vocalists who show regression or improvement.

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      1. 2NE1 is having a comeback in the summer as three members, we will just see. Hopefully Minzy finds a better company who can showcase her talents and help her train more on her singing. Now, since Minzy left 2NE1, 2NE1 is a weak vocal group.

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      2. There only lee hi Who save YG when it come to Vocals I don’t understand why they still one of The big 3

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      3. That’s very sad. But, now since she left she can go into a new company and get better at singing. Like if she goes to SME.

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      4. I think Kara is better now than 2NE1 OT3? Hehehehe… amir goutal: because they have style and hiphop is kinda interesting too? YG is the most that really take it serious for hiphop i think, see like they don’t pay much for vocal

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  27. I feel bad for them because it said they were suprised, but at the same time, I’m proud of Minzy. She knew she deserved more and she did something about it, which I’m very happy about. I hate the way SM treats their artists so I hope she doesn’t go with them… but JYP would probably get her to do that thing with her voice like he does and I don’t want that either. And I don’t think she’d go with anyone other than the big three since she’s really big? Maybe Cube? Or even BigHit? But I’m not sure how they’d do with training her or helping her improve. The most obvious would be SM because they’re YG’s enemy and she’s friends with a lot of SM artists… but idk. She is friends with Luna so maybe even if she doesn’t go with SM, Luna could teach her some stuff. Maybe? I don’t know, I just want her to get better and do well…

    I guess you’ll have to change “best vocalist in 2NE1” to “WAS best vocalist in 2NE1”

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    1. Oh hey 0:45 Minzy hit C#3! Good for her, new lowest note. I understand you’re curious but it’s not fair to compare a professional vocalist to someone who seems like she isn’t professionally trained. They sound nice together, their harmonies were really nice. That’s all I’ll say.

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    1. There’s nothing new nor challenging. She was singing comfortably from F#3 ~ A4. Only the F#3’s were muffled. The analysis will only be updated if there’s a change to her technique.

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